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  1. ....from everyone in it together, players and fans under NP, all pulling together, getting it, fighting, respect, understanding...a feeling of we are all pulling in the same direction. A feeling of togetherness. Fighting, supportive, but respectful and knowing our ability and limits. To this bullshit within a few months. Talk about not understanding football, your fanbase, and totally thinking you and the squad are better than they are. Delusional. It's a reflection of how many in Government/Politics read and understand the country and what's needed. In it for themselves...out of their depth and massively delusional. The fact a fan base can see it, call it...but our ' leaders' can't is stunning. ' Tecknically and Proffesionally ' sp inept.
    154 points
  2. For the last few years, Bristol City FC has been attempting to create its own ‘model’. Their idea of the optimum way to run a football club to provide it with the best chance of success. The ‘Model’ is supposed to be one where everything at the club is ‘aligned’. It says that all of our teams from the under 8’s through to the first team will play the same way. I’m not sure that’s quite such a good idea but hey ho. But the most crucial element for me is that the model says that the first team will play a certain way and that we have a ‘Technical Director’ to oversee this and ensure it’s on track and everything is aligned. Personally, at this level of football, I don’t think that works. The scene is such that, any manager coming into the club should be of a certain ‘type’ and conform to a certain set of principles. The club have created a philosophy (call it an identity if you like) as to how they want to play football and any manager should align (there’s that word again) with that. The Technical Director runs the recruitment side of the business. He determines what players we sign and what manager and coaches we sign. He will try to conform to the club principles and appoint managers and coaches who will ‘fit’ and sign players who will ‘fit’. We see this sort of model at the top end of the game. Many of the biggest clubs run on a Director of Football type of model, where the manager has only limited say in the player recruitment and is basically just tasked with getting on with it, with the rather expensive tools he is provided. This doesn’t work at our level. We see this in all it’s gory (yes, not glory) with the Tinnion/Manning appointment. We have a club philosophy that desires to play in a certain way and players have been signed to attempt to slot into that style. We now have a manager who has been appointed who clearly likes to adopt a very different philosophy. I don’t blame Manning for this. We approached him. He didn’t apply for this job. He had a clear and evident CV, a body of work behind him, that was obvious to anyone who bothered to look that was at odds with our own club model. Furthermore, this new manager, whilst not having players who can play his way, doesn’t have very much say in how to fix this. His first transfer window and we make 4 permanent signings - 3 of which we wanted before the new manager got here. So the new manager arrives, doesn’t have players he wants and then the ‘club model’ signs 3 players that ‘the club model’ wanted. This is a huge issue for me. We are attempting to recreate models that have had success at places like Brighton, Brentford and even bloody Luton. But whilst those clubs had certain recruitment models, they didn’t dictate a ‘playing philosophy’ throughout the club. They just had very thorough and clever scouting and recruitment modelling. It didn’t dictate the playing style. Whenever there was a manager change the new boss still has his own free reign in terms of how he played and the recruitment model would then have to ‘align’ with the managers philosophy - not the other way round. When Dean Smith took over from Mark Warburton, he did things differently and they recruited accordingly. Likewise when Frank then took over from Smith, he had different philosophies on pressing, defensive positioning, midfield solidity etc. and the club then recruited accordingly. Luton played a certain way under Jones, but when Edwards arrived he harnessed what was already good but brought his own style to it and the club then recruited accordingly. What we have at Bristol City is a dictatorial model, whereby the Technical Director and Recruitment Team have defined a model and anyone that arrives at the club must buy-in to that model. There is no wavering. Yes, a new manager might have a bit of a say in some signings but generally they are targeted based on our defined modelling. Surely it’s obvious to anyone that this just doesn’t work. The talk of ‘everything at this club is aligned, from the under 8’s to the first team’ is just a false platitude. It’s a strapline that they think is clever “hey look at us, we’ve got an identify and model, we’re unique”. That might work well at Barcelona or Man City but it’s pointless in the championship. It’s not what will actually bring success on the pitch. To achieve success on the pitch at this level you need a manager who is allowed to run the first team in his own way. Who won’t be dictated to by inferiors who spout about an identity and an alignment throughout the club. It’s time for Manning to depart, in my opinion, but it’s also time for the club to drop the nonsense and stop acting like a billy big bollox. The club think that they have a clever way of doing things and that it’s the only way of separating themselves from the challenging division we are in. It’s not clever. It’s nonsense. Drop the bullcrap. The way to achieve success was evident to us a few years ago when a man called Steve Cotterill was appointed. I wasn’t his biggest fan when he got here, and I also think the time was right for him to go, but the period he was here, there is no denying that he’s been the only manager in recent years that’s done things his own way and said “balls” to the ownership and ‘model’. Cotterill worked with an experienced Chief Scout and identified the best available players and signed them to fit a way of playing that HE wanted. None of this “we’re all aligned from the u8’s to the tea lady”. Just an experienced manager with an experienced chief scout, putting together a squad that would play to the managers identity, not the clubs identity. It’s time to ditch the bullshit. Get out there and employ a manager with cahuna’s, one with a CV that demands respect from his players, let him bring in the players that HE wants, not players that the ‘club’ have targeted for the last few windows. Let him put his own team together to play the way that HE wants. The current model stinks. There are people in positions of authority that have real negative impact on this club who are not fit for purpose. We need a board of directors who can appoint a respected manager, who in turn will be empowered to bring in his own trusted recruitment team or chief scout, sign his own players and have zero meddling from unqualified nobodies. Our model is shit. And we will get nowhere with it.
    106 points
  3. This is what we’re reduced to now. We’ve lost our fourth game in a row to a club who’ve just spent four years in League One, but it’s OK because “we gave it a go”. So what if it felt different. It felt different against Southampton and we’ve lost every game since then. I have zero faith in Manning now, and even less faith in the people that put him there. Meanwhile Ipswich join the long list of clubs that emerge from the depths of lower league football and pass us on the way up. Sick of this club.
    105 points
  4. We keep hearing Liam Nothing (sorry Manning) say how he’s always trying to make sure the players take the emotion out of the game. I don’t like this approach. Emotion is part of football. Sometimes it can affect you poorly but in my experience it can also have as much of a positive effect than a negative one. I actually WANT to see my team playing WITH emotion. Not without it. I’ve really had enough of this bloke. We also hear him say “at half time we spoke about how we might think about how to engage higher”. No no no!! It’s your effing job to TELL them how to engage higher. Not have a polite feckin conversation about it. Enough. Honestly.
    94 points
  5. Get rid of a manager who has cleared out a lot of dead wood, got the squad running through brick walls for each other whilst bringing on talented youngsters and then give his job to a clueless nobody. **** the Lansdowns. Shame on you Tinnion.
    89 points
  6. Gotta say, a manager saying once the game starts there’s nothing they can do to impact it is pretty ******* mental.
    82 points
  7. Dear Nigel I made the mistake of thinking I knew something about football. I replaced an experienced and successful manager with a guy that had never managed above League One and had led MK Dons to the bottom 4. I then told the fans to expect the top six. Two of the worse three teams in the division have just comfortably beaten us and our league record is worse under him than you, despite the fact that you could barely name a team due to injuries. Please come back and save the season Love Jon P.S thanks for getting us the points early doors which mean we are not in a relegation battle now.
    68 points
  8. There is a point where someone can say “I don’t want to do the job you’re offering”. We know from Tins himself he feels he’s deserving of the role…so imho he deserves to be critiqued based on the role.
    68 points
  9. In my 35 years of supporting City never have I seen a manager set up to fail quite so badly by the top brass. I said it at the time of his appointment that he’d been dealt a poisoned chalice and it’s playing out exactly as I hoped it wouldn’t. So let’s try to remember that none of this is Manning’s fault. He took a lucrative job that none of would have turned down and none of us can blame him for taking. I’m sure he and his team are trying their very best. Fortunately I lost my mojo for Bristol City when Nige was sacked. I saw it before with Cotterill and history has repeated itself. I say fortunately because I find myself really not caring too much about our games, how we’re performing etc. I find it sad I feel like this, but it helps eliminate the problem of the City result ruining your weekend - which I suspect is how many of you feel right now. But I suppose my main point is try not to get on Manning’s back. It’s not his fault. I’m grateful for the investment the Lansdowns have made, our new stadium is brilliant and we’re in a really good place off the pitch. But I think we’ve definitely run our course now, and with my very best wishes it’s time they sold up and left. And if they wouldn’t mind taking their mate Bri with them at the same time, that’d be ideal. They’re getting the comeuppance they deserve in spades. Completely out of their depth. I suppose you could sum up my feelings on them the same way they dealt with Nige. You feel the need to gamble on something new, yeh, it could well be worse, but it’s probably worth the gamble.
    67 points
  10. LMs appointment suits JL and BT. JL isn't going to feel intimidated by him and Tins knows with his age and experience can manipulate and control him to his advantage. Tins knows he's landed in leprechaun shit...good academy manager...but now he has way too much influence. Not justified or qualified. But it suits JL as he is a 'mate' learning on the job. LM comes across on the coaching pitch as ' one of the lads'. Slapping backs and hugs...he doesn't hold any presence or 'I'm the boss their will be consequences ' etc attitude. Most of the players have achieved more than him, and played under managers and coaches better than him, and some that have won the Prem. They will have heard it all from better coaches. And they are expected to respect him and his ideas. A nobody...employed by nobodies that got given a job by their billionaire dad and another that lives off scoring a winner against a crap Liverpool in the Cup. Says it all really. So miss having the presence of NP here. Run by cowards.
    65 points
  11. I don't care if I get shot down, that's fine, but I am sick of the negativity towards Tinnion. I love the guy. Pure and simple, he's a city legend and was in the team for my first four years as a fan and had a left peg I absolutely worshipped. Anyway, I'm not here to talk about his football legacy, I think it's cruel and unfair the way he's treated on here, quite often as a figure of fun and with his intelligence and communication skills being mocked and belittled, you should be ashamed of yourselves. He's not our enemy, he's our ambassador, he's a man who's gave most of his working career to our club, even though being a Geordie and having no previous affinity to the club. We know he's not the best fit for the job he currently has, but he had the ambition to go for it, the same as his stint as a manager, he wasn't up to speed, but he had the ambition and drive to go for it. I respect and love that. It's not his fault if he's not right for the job, it's up the people above him if they feel he should be replaced. Personally, I want him in charge of the academy, that's his best fit and hopefully he will be back there sometime in the future - back within his comfort zone. But in the meantime, he will definitely be giving everything to the club and deserves much more respect and our support. You don't have to love Pearson and hate Brian, you can appreciate them both! And even though I don't agree with Manning being our gaffer, I can see the reasons why he was recruited.
    59 points
  12. The previous manager was stabbed in the back and you picked your manager to give us a "better chance of success", which is your prerogative if you feel Nige wasn't up to the job, yet we sit here on a dreadful run of NINE POINTS from TEN MATCHES including dismal defeats against 22nd and 23rd in the league. You have messed it up, the Lansdown's aren't going anywhere, Manning won't be going anywhere albeit is looking like a rabbit lost in the headlights and the standard of football is getting worse by the week after half a season in charge, so you have to fall on your sword Brian me old china. You've brought in a loan player who isn't up to the level, another loan player we won't be signing anyway and has only played 90 minutes and the season is deteriorating rapidly after you declared it wasn't good enough when nothing was really wrong. Let's get a Director of Football in with REAL experience and qualifications that are more than "used to play for the club", "messed up when managing the club" and "can run an Academy".
    58 points
  13. 57 points
  14. LM potentially isn't the right man for the job. BT isn't the right man for the job, as he hired Manning. He shouldn't be allowed to hire Mannings replacement. Both are the problem.
    56 points
  15. If Manning is still here next season sparse crowds like today will be the norm. He's a crashing bore, his football is excruciatingly tedious, the atmosphere around the club is dead, and there's absolutely nothing for fans to be excited about.
    55 points
  16. Let’s be honest. Sacking Pearson was nothing to do with football. So the comparison is pretty meaningless.
    54 points
  17. …and fully appreciate those who got a stream may have seen some things differently, haven’t checked in in the match thread to see consensus. I had BBC WM on for the journey home (incidentally when discussing Fellows they noted that he hoped he didn’t get too big for his boots “like the lad playing for Bristol City” - so the story there will be interesting), and the first thing they asked Corberan was if he expected the opposition to sit 11 men behind the ball - and he confirmed he did as it’s how we play. And that’s really what the first half was. It was slow, it was ponderous. Save the Tommy chance we didn’t look threatening - which was daft as the two centre backs for WBA looked very uncertain and an aggressive press could have undone them. But as the half wore on, they ran at us more, and probably finished the half stronger. The goal was a touch unfortunate for Max and without the guy in his line of sight I think he saves it, but ultimately we were 1-0 down because no intent was shown. And that was the case until the last 20. We were carved for the second and only a great tackle from Vyner prevented a third, which WBA should also have had with a shot from 18 yards. The city fans were shouting “we’re ****ing shit” and there were muted chants of “We want Nigel Pearson”. The fact that for most of the second half city fans were chanting “we’ve got the ball/lost the ball” shows how bad it was. But on that last 20 again. It was better for two reasons - firstly because WBA let it be, swapping out Wallace and Diangara. But it was also because we pressed a bit more intently and pressured a defence that wasn’t great on the ball. And that was bloody obvious from very early on. The subs again were formulaic. Only thing that was a formation change you’d argue (other than wing switches) was Knight back into CM and Twine playing a bit higher, but again the process was the process and let’s not change that. Genuinely despondent as to where we go with this bloke.
    52 points
  18. The Adam Murphy thread brings into focus once more just how bad our communication is. But it doesn’t need to be like this, and telling the truth doesn’t make you look stupid. Just off the top of my head, how much better would it have been if communication was the following: Murphy Instead of: ”He’s doing a long pre season” Say: (my assumed position here) ”When he performed his medical it was a deal we still wanted to do but there were some concerns - although not ones we expect to be long term - if the players right you take the gamble like Bournemouth did with Scotty. We’re just making sure everything is fully right medically and well then target for him to be fully in the swing of things for next season” Medube Instead of: ”He didn’t play due to work permit issues” (now known to be a lie) Say: ”For whatever reason it didn’t work out for him in Belgium. However it’s only six months ago that he was a great prospect in Man City’s academy so we’re loaning him to see where he is, and to see if it’s a deal we want to do longer term” Targets Instead of: ”We hope to be ten points better off” Say: ”We want to be around the playoffs. It looks unlikely to happen this season, but it’s not far away in real terms so we expect that although it’s difficult to be top two due to parachute clubs we want to be right in the mix below that next season” Performance Instead of: ”Everyone was happy three weeks ago” and “We played well in 19 of 20 games” Say: ”The Southampton performance was the level we want to be at, and we probably haven’t been at that enough. The challenge is we need to get there every week and although I think in most games there have been signs, they haven’t hit that consistent level for 90 minutes often enough. And that’s the challenge for the staff and for the players, and it’s one we’ll meet” Obviously this doesn’t have to be exact, but how much better would everyone be feeling with a bit of truth, professional communication and acknowledgment everything isn’t awesome? It’s not even that it’s a difficult thing to do or makes them look worse!
    51 points
  19. There is no way that this run of results would’ve been acceptable under Nigel Pearson. After all we are told we have a squad which should be in the top six and we are currently 12th and falling. Only nine points above the relegation places with two defeats in succession against bottom three sides. At this rate even if we avoid relegation this season I can see us being in a relegation battle next season, particularly if we lose the experience of James and Williams in midfield. It seems that there is one rule for NP and the another rule for the replacement.
    49 points
  20. So the leagues worst side, a basket case club who made an awful managerial decision to sack a manager doing well, pissed the fans off and ballsed up their season, and Birmingham.
    48 points
  21. HEY BRIAN, just a reminder that you sacked a manager a week after we were 7th in an injury crisis
    48 points
  22. I feel like I am a bully picking on Liam Manning as I inevitably do. If you are reading this boss, it's nothing against you personally. I just simply think, in fact I know, you are not up to the job. I am not blaming you. You were put into this situation by the Lansdowns and BT. Don't trust them to ever run a crèche, they'd be getting the kids to play in water dangerously way out of their depth. I have been going to Ashton Gate since 1970. The Pearson sacking was the worst dismissal and most unwarranted of a Bristol City boss in all those 54 years. Prior to that I would say the John Ward departure was the highest own goal in terms of how that was handled and then subsequently panned out, but the Pearson sacking usurps that. (Although the kind of constructive dismissal of Cotts is up there too.) Having lived quite a few years now I am no longer surprised that certain members of the elite just don't have their fingers on the pulse. They live detached, privileged lives. They didn't like a mainly popular Bristol City manager and believed they were all powerful and could dismiss him as it is their club. Not that of the thousands upon thousands who pay good money and invest their money and HEARTS in the club and its fortunes. So they sacked a popular manager and mentioned top six squad and the need for front foot football as a means, they thought, to win the backing of these strange fans who liked the bloke they despised. In his place they have installed someone who just isn't up to the job. Once again, I call upon my experience of following Bristol City and from the outset LM was a totally uninspired appointment and it is evident that not enough effort was put into checking him, his suitability for the job as manager of the highest profile club in the West Country or his achievements and ethos. He had a few months of relative success at MK Dons followed by a terrible slump and a few months of success at Oxford. That is it. As others have said it made LJ's record when he was given the post look greatly experienced by comparison. Two of the trio in charge have no nous in football. They are like you and I, except they have money. Indeed, we have something they clearly don't, a grounding in following a football club and knowing what the masses think without feeling entitled. Is it any wonder it has gone so wrong. The sooner they acknowledge they made a massive balls up of the dismissal of Pearson and foisting this emotionless novice upon our club the sooner Bristol City can get back on track. Until that happens I am afraid the Express to the Promised Land has been derailed for some considerable time to come.
    47 points
  23. ….just joking lads He’s absolute pony. Completely clueless Get him gone
    47 points
  24. Hang on… Have you just conflated Alex Ferguson, who at his prior club (the third biggest in the country) won the league twice, the Scottish Cup twice, the European Cup Winners Cup and the European Super Cup, with Liam Manning, who was sacked by MK Dons and all he achieved under his own steam was a 12 game run at Oxford? Its a spectacular reach, I’ll give you that.
    46 points
  25. Liam Manning's side something something I fell asleep O'Leary 5 McCrorie 4 Roberts 6 Dickie 6 Vyner 7 King 4 Gardner-Hickman 5 Sykes 4 Mehmeti 4 Knight 5 Conway 5 Twine 7 Wells 6 Cornick 6 Tanner 5 Pring 6 Bonus manager rating 0 never seen a team of half decent players rendered so completely anonymous by one man and his tactical revolution. Crafted a team utterly lacking pace, emotion or instinct and which he insists must do the same utter shite all the way to the very end. Even LJ worked out how to have a go.
    46 points
  26. Just listened to the start again. "Steve and Jon decided they wanted a good run in the u-18 youth Cup this season" So, as a result, Brian explained: 1) It's part of the reason why we can't fill a full bench for the first team; and 2) U-18s are deliberately being held back from progressing into the u-21s so that we can do well in the youth Cup. So we are sabotaging the first team, u-21s and development of u-18s because on a whim Steve and Jon decided they wanted a good cup run for the u-18s? I think this is up there with one of the most absurd things I've ever heard come out of the club.
    46 points
  27. Firstly I’m not grateful to Steve Lansdown for anything other than the development of the stadium. Unless you’ve been watching us in very recent times only you can’t say he’s “taken us to new heights” Lumsden with Jordan’s team did better than all bar one year of SL’s entire time under the legendary Les Kew.. This is a bit Groundhog Day but he’s meddled when he shouldn’t & been too detached (especially the disastrous Mark Ashton/LJ era) when he should have got a grip. His track record of appointments is shite, I wouldn’t trust his son to run a coffee shop, let alone the biggest sporting operation in the South West & he’s allowed an illiterate Geordie into a pivotal role he’s no more qualified for than the one his son occupies. Sell up & **** off.
    46 points
  28. Just **** off the lot of you.
    46 points
  29. I watched his Cheltenham side a couple of times, and they played nice football. The death of the owner at Forest didn’t help him there. Still remember that final game of 14/15, on the pitch with Joe, Cotts comes over for photos, and then gets the trophies off of the players, tells the photographers to stop taking pics of the players and to come and pics of the fans with the trophies saying something along the lines of “this is what it’s all about, this is who it’s for”. How can you not like a bloke like that? Joe wearing my 1978 “Bristol City are magic” scarf.
    45 points
  30. How come injuries are a get out of jail for his boy Liam but irrelevant for Nige? Just get the f out of this club your reputation is in tatters
    45 points
  31. 'Great result on Sunday Brian, do you have any other memories of playing Swansea City?'
    44 points
  32. There are multiple threads for this but in brief… - By pretty much common consensus we had a squad who provided a solid base to work with - Somehow, by the logic above, that base is no longer solid but not up to it - The coach is supposed to be on the grass coach and therefore by definition should be able to coach players to improve - But based on the above, you’re saying he can’t- and these are pro footballers most of whom were schooled in academies - So, your solution is to give him money. By definition confirming he’s not a great “coach” but needs cash - Said coach had a top six budget at Milton Keynes to get his players and took them into the relegation zone - So, cash isn’t the answer. - And as you say he needs his players - having had half a season with the current good crop and regressed them. - So, he can’t coach players who aren’t his and fails with players who are - But, he thinks 19 of 20 games are good and doesn’t see what you do, so he’s delusional - Therefore, you have a coach who thinks he’s doing well when being 23rd in the form table who shows no aptitude to manage players both who are his and who aren’t his On that basis, it’s reasonable to say he’s not very good. And the argument “Well somebody new would need to come in and assess and is a gamble” is no argument at all when the current incumbent is so clearly not up to it.
    44 points
  33. Agreed. They had something that doesn’t really happen in football, despite us being mid table and a bit hit and miss, almost everyone was together and supporting the team and the club and as you say pulling in the right direction. There was a poll wasn’t there about sacking NP or renewing his contract or something and it was over 90% in support of him. Thats unheard of for a club that wasn’t really “successful”. That was only a couple of weeks before the sacking. They ruined all of that hard work and that’s what I’m most bitter about.
    43 points
  34. There is an uncomfortable truth that Manning has failed on the brief of making us compete this season. That objective has not been met. We’ve had a few flashes in the pan but ultimately we have not taken the steps forward that Manning was expected to do. He came in here and inherited a decent squad. The board felt the squad was good enough to compete. We all have our own opinions on that. I certainly felt that with a fair wind we could have potentially challenged. I certainly feel as if the current team is underperforming and is behind of where it should be in it's evolution. I sit here and ask myself the question, would another head coach/manager have gotten more out of this squad? And the answer is a unequivocal yes. Manning inherited probably the most talented and fittest squad that any manager at Bristol City has inherited for decades in my opinion. The culture was in place. All he needed to do was improve our results. Up until this point I'm struggling to think of any major improvements we have made under Manning. Maybe slightly better when on the ball? But Manning has failed to sort issues out such as inconsistency, breaking down teams and not being able to beat teams that sit back. He's been here for 23 games and there has been very little sign that he has the ability to sort these issues out. Teams have figured us out and there is no plan b. Now I'm going early on this and I fully accept any flak I may get for going early but I'm looking towards the summer now. Sunderland saw it wasn't working with Beale and got rid. I hear lots of people say "well he needs a pre season, he needs his own players" etc. That excuse doesn't really wash with me. He was brought in to have us competing this season with this squad. The front foot football that we were promised has by and large not materialised. Now the elephant in the room is - the summer. I've not seen anything of note that gives me confidence that even with a pre season, even with a few of his own players that he will be able to get us competing. Mannings in game management has given me concerns. And that's the conundrum here. Do we alllow Manning to rip up this squad and rebuild it with players that suit his style with there being no guarantees that will work out or do we have those difficult conversations that actually this isn't working out how we expected it to? I dont want to be getting to October/November next season and thinking great here's another lost opportunity. 9 points from the last 9 games / 2 wins from 9 is totally not acceptable.
    43 points
  35. would be great to have all four stands singing "There's only one Nigel Pearson!"
    42 points
  36. Condolences for Scott and the rest of the Murray family.
    42 points
  37. I am not even sure where you start with an interview like that, but I have a good idea of where you end. There is a very evident, and growing divide between the club and the fanbase. Any possibility of success will be driven by a unity of purpose and belief. But here we are with a club led by people who continually lie, and also seemingly have confused politics with sport. The lobbying, random posing on forums, offline briefing of local media and interviews like this demonstrate that they think you can detach the evidence and underlying mood with empty words. As if by saying something continually, it will become true, despite all of the evidence pointing in a different direction. The club has created one of the most astonishing masterclasses in self-destruction. They have indeed lost the fan base, primarily because of the lack of transparency and continued lies. That destroys trust. But worse than that, there is no real anger. It is even more catastrophic, apathy prevails. The reason for that is possibly because people know there is nothing that can be done. The club is priced out of new ownership, and as such, we are currently hostages to the owner's whim. This is a real shame, because the owner most certainly would want what any fan would want, but over 2 decades the continued lack of any semblance of a strategy, changes in direction, and continued reluctance to employ competent people means we are now looking at regression. So here we are, we now have to watch the soap opera of Tinnion, Manning and Jon L play out until the cost of relegation becomes a real reality again. But we have been here on so many occasions. The club is crying out for high quality professional leadership. It is now getting embarrassing for the owner.
    42 points
  38. This is rubbish, isn’t it?
    42 points
  39. He’s a ****. Pure and simple. At no other club would someone who had shown complete ineptitude when managing the club be rewarded with a bigger role. He thinks he’s bigger than Bristol City - you see it in the Liverpool celebrations. You see it in his Twitter interactions. Hes not a club legend. He’s a man who was paid handsomely and didn’t want to move house because his personal circumstances wouldn’t allow it. Brian Tinnion cares about one man. And his name is Brian Tinnion. He showed it in his manoeuvring post Wilson. He’s shown it in the last few years. If he loved the club he’d walk away and admit that he’s incompetent. But he won’t Because he’s Brian Tinnion - club legend Ian Gay told him so. ****.
    42 points
  40. That was bloody terrible. Literally the worse performance of the season. Unfortunately all it’s done is give Manning breathing space. Making that my last visit to the gate this season. Can no longer sit through it and cant celebrate even when they win.
    41 points
  41. What about not sacking a manager that was improving us.
    41 points
  42. 40 points
  43. You have been sucked into a Manning vs Pearson debate which is a (deliberate) distraction from the issue at hand, namely whether Manning should be given more time. What Pearson did or not do and what challenges he faced are irrelevant to the decision we are faced with now which I think boils down to how one answers the following questions. Is the current squad suited to the style of play Manning prefers? My opinion: No. I think pretty much everyone agrees on this whether in the pro or anti Manning camps. Will Manning change style to a more pragmatic approach to suit the squad? My opinion: No. He has made it abundantly clear that he is wedded to this possession football. Can the current squad be easily transformed (bearing in mind our likely budget) into a squad that is suited to the style of play Manning prefers? My opinion: No. The squad has been built to play a fast, counterattacking style of play, the antithesis of the possession based style Manning favours. Transitioning to such a style would require a significant revamp of the existing squad requiring serious investment and excellent transfer dealings. Is the style of play Manning prefers likely to see us challenging for promotion? My opinion: No. To work, possession based football requires that you have players who are significantly better than the opposition. I cannot think of a single club that has been promoted from the Championship playing possession based football that has not had the benefit of parachute payments. Of the clubs that have not had the benefit of parachute payments that have been promoted from the Championship, they have generally played some kind of pragmatic style. Is the style of play Manning prefers likely to see us playing more attractive football? My opinion: No. I find all that sideways passing tedious. I appreciate that many appreciate that style of football though. I don't like to see anyone fired, but based on my answers to the questions, I believe he should go now. Otherwise, the very real fear is that we waste substantial money rebuilding the squad over the summer and at best end up mid table and at worst are in a relegation battle. Obviously, my answers are all opinions and it may be that others would answer yes to some or all of them and therefore come to a different conclusion. Based on the evidence we have before us though, it is difficult for me to see how they would do so.
    40 points
  44. Keeping us in the Championship when we were going down, sorting out the financial mess, prevented us from breaching ffp, developing young players, building a team and a culture on a shoe string budget, making the clubs tens of millions in transfer fees, getting rid of all the dead wood and then by the time he left we had a stable decent affordable squad that was ready to push on. Achieving all that is a roaring success. Had we of gone down we'd have been in an incredible financial mess and would have breached ffp and probably suffered another relegation. Fair enough if you don't consider saving us from all that a roaring success but that's not something I'd agree with.
    40 points
  45. Not wrong is he However I lay the blame squarely at Lansdown and Tinnion I don't think there is anyone who is really going to be markedly better than Pearson was with the resources
    40 points
  46. This Cliff, this. When my dad was given the news that his cancer was terminal it was in the Covid period. I remember him crying, and one of the things him saying was that he’d never get to Ashton Gate again. And he didn’t - he was gone before the grounds reopened. His name and memory for me is all over the ground though and I feel closer to him there than anywhere else. It’s what you love. And it’ll be what you love irrespective of what’s served up because it’s a huge part of your life. I’d renew if I were you, come what may.
    39 points
  47. How on earth have we gone from Richard Gould and Nigel Pearson to Jon Lansdown, Brian Tinnion and Liam Manning. I mean I know the answer, he lives in Guernsey, but still. What a ******* dumb football club.
    39 points
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