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@Abraham Romanovich thanks for that info. How are you doing? No see you for some time. You know that was my second visit to WHL as you'll remember I saw your first European Cup first home game when you hammered Gornic (Polish team) 8-1. I never told you about the second time I saw a live Spurs game. The freezing winter of 1963 at Highbury. Can't remember much about the match played on an ice rink. Young kids at the front of the terracing throwing snowballs at the coppers. No arrests as there would be now, the plod just threw them back at the boys. Every hit either way got a big cheer from the crowd.

Joe was the Spurs right back in their FA Cup game against City at White Hart Lane. In 1967. The game for which we had five special trains direct to the station just down the road from the ground. The game when we messed up a twice taken penalty, the ref was going to send Spurs defender Dave Mackay until City's Quigley pleaded with the ref not to do it. And guess who scored the two Spurs goals? Answers on a postcard please. A great day out with a wrong ending but well worth it with 54,000 in the ground, one of the biggest gates to see a City match. RIP Joe.

You went earlier than 1967 if you saw Big John play as he retired at end of season 1965/66. Rooks arrived here in summer of 1969 and left at end of 71/72.

He followed Jack Connor in the side and was a big help to the AD Young Ones like Geoff Merrick. Only here for three seasons but one of those who helped to turn us from a perpetual fighter against the drop and pushed us up the table for the 1976 promotion. RIP Dickie and condolences to his family.

RIP City supporter. Commiserations to her family and friends.

I would.

I would normally, at this time of the season with us safe in mid table, agree with your last sentence. But I believe that what many of us see now and in the coming weeks will decide whether we renew or not. At present I'm not sure I can put up with this sort of dross again next season. How many others are the same?

I completely agree that what he has spent on all the clubs is trivial for him over 25 years and amounts to approx £10 million per year. That is or was approximately 2/5ths of his income from his H&L shares. So no breaking into the £2 billion lump. The only time he spent significantly was when his son's idol was the City manager and an aptly named CEO, was probably fiddling a small fortune into his own personal bank account. Just like he did later at the Tractor company until one of their owners put a stop to it.

Very good post and I agree all of it.

Let's stop arguing or trying to score points off of each other. We're all City fans, supporters and go to as many matches as we can, financially, working hours, family matters etc. All previous managers or head coaches are now history and whatever we thought of them, they are now irrelevant. So now we have a head coach, Manning. He has had no experience of being in charge of a Championship club and his time with lower league sides as head coach is almost non existent. As we now appear to be safe from the big drop, I want to see how the team performs. I'm not concerned about each match result but about how we cope with all facets of a match. In his first three months, we had too many games in which we went sideways and backwards without any real clue of attacking. If that continues more than any other style, it will finish many of us from going to matches through sheer boredom. If we lose trying to play our share of attacks then so be it. We'll never win every game but so long as we give it a go, then I will be at matches to support the team.

I saw Hewlett's father make his debut against Wolves at Molineux. But as that seems about a lifetime away, it makes me feel older than I am. I hope the son will make the grade.

I have some good memories from the previous Youth Cup games a long time ago and appreciate the players who made it to our first team. Unable to watch or even listen to commentary but from the comments from almost everyone in this thread, the under 18's squad and coaches have done a very good job with a group of boys who hopefully, will make it to City's first team. So thank you under 18's for making it so far in the Youth Cup and best wishes for the rest of your careers.

It was three matches in four days at Easter. The same opponents, home and away on Good Friday and Easter Monday. And a match on the Saturday in between. In 1957/8 I saw all three. West Ham at Ashton Gate on Friday, Leicester City away on Saturday and W Ham at Upton Park on Monday. Two draws and one defeat.

I'm not going to comment on yesterday's match until after the game at Home Park. Apart from an agreement with your mention of the referee. He appeared to me, almost as soon as the game started, as very quick to penalise us when there was any contact at all but unable to see any of the same from Leicester. In days gone past cash managed to get stuck to a ref's hand as an encouragement to help one side. Not heard of it mentioned for a long time but I sometimes wonder over the last four or five years if it still exists. Where there's cash, there is always an opportunity for fiddling so why not referees?

Another member of the Tinnion, Lansdown family?

Gow's first game was at Charlton last match of 1969-70 season. I guess that there weren't many City fans at the Valley that day. Similar ending to this season. 5 defeats and three draws and we finished 14th in Second Division. Not much has changed!

What quality? Very poor is my opinion.

I gave up around half way through. So boring, he sits there smirking and spouting absolute drivel that an outsider wouldn't believe that we have hardly won a league match for three months! I'll be there tomorrow, haven't renewed yet and expect a thoroughly poor walloping from Leicester.

I saw Larry play for Rovers, I think against City in the FA cup mentioned in a very recent thread. He came from the Manor Farm area near Horfield common. I met his brother several times when I lived in Shrewsbury. He had a pub just a minutes walk from the Gay Meadow and as I went to Shrews games when they didn't clash with City's, I'd go in his pub for an after match refresher. He was pure Gas so lots of banter. After City's last minute win in the Joe Jordan promotion year, he was at the front door holding a full pint when I arrived and he held it out for me to take and then threw the beer at me. We both nearly wet ourselves laughing and it was one of the evenings when I got a cab home instead of walking. Boy was he proud of his younger brother, Larry. RIP Larry even if you are Gas.

@Davefevs So if ticket staff are employed by BS, isn't it reasonable to assume that the pitch ground staff, refreshments etc. are the same. I cannot see the sense in pitch staff being employed separately by City, Bears and City Women. Anyway, not worth us fighting each other as more important subjects are relevant.

Thanks @ExiledAjax My understanding of the money going from City, Bears etc is that before Bristol Sport was created, the non football employees of Bristol City FC, ground staff, refreshments, ticket sales etc. were workers for the Club and paid by them. But that since B Sport they are employed by BS. Thus City, Bears, City Women, pay a share of their wages. EFL would not consider our accounts valid if we didn't pay any of the non football wages.

I don't agree that he should be given the chance to turn it around because he doesn't appear to have the ability to so do.

I completely agree with you.

Yes of course I do. I took a friend's 8 year old son, it was his first game and he was buzzing at the end. Sadly, a year later, he drowned in the Avon near Keynsham.

If you were born in 1941 you are 83 in June. Stretching that info just like you do with other facts!