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  1. I was just about to say! I think @Silvio Dante has got his quotes mixed up. We've got a "Good Relationship With Small Clubs". We keep buying players for them all.
  2. Olé


    In answer to the OP he is so far yet to use Unexpected Shoal of Piranhas, but since we are going to beat Barnsley I don't think it matters. Try to remember which side we are on (clue: its not the Amazonian fish).
  3. I have nothing to add, I just think your name and avatar are exceptional work.
  4. Haha, I read the post you were responding to and did the same double take you did - we haven't been a boring possession passing football team for a long time, I only wish we were. People seem to confuse which LJ tactical-era they're unhappy with (possibly because all the styles seem to run of ideas). The current era is the punt it over the top for Famara period. Passing it about aimlessly was last season, and special occasions at AG. Starved of it for a month, I was thrilled to see it last night. Seems like others saw it as AG more of the same.
  5. Co-sign John! Hardest remaining midweek fixture for me this season, time off work and a long old slog back early morning. It would be very kind of City to get this game moved, god knows it ticks LJ's boxes for maximising time between fixtures....?
  6. To be fair I wasn't ever apologising, merely highlighting the basis for my remarks - if you saw our football differently you're welcome to give examples of how you saw it (though it sounds like you didn't). I realise that you're frustrated with the result (I am now on a 3 hour trip to get back to London for work before 9am, imagine how I feel) but your frustration with LJ is apparent in many threads, you didn't really need to rush into this one to refute my report in a single sentence on the basis of nothing more that your frustration (certainly no examples of how you saw the football differently to me). If it helps, I assure you Steve Lansdown is not flicking through OTIB and spotting my post and then deciding that because I complimented some of the football, LJ keeps his job! Your view really isn't threatened by my analysis. But like it or not, I've conveyed how I saw some of the football that we played first half, having sat through every last second of all the football this season, and seen far far worse and depressing tactics for weeks prior to this fixture. As to "your report almost made us sound good which we patently were not if we can't beat...", I hope this doesn't come as a shock to you, but it has long been possible for a football team to play good football and lose a game of football. The two are not always connected, particularly in the cup. For more examples of teams "sounding good" and losing, see the team we beat on Saturday.
  7. ^ Happy to accept that people see things differently, but have people seen City home and away for the past month! We've barely strung a pass together. It wasn't great today but credit where credit's due - we finally passed the f****g ball and I've been waiting a while to celebrate that. And some credit to Shrewsbury who played well in both ties and nullified our "tactics" by the second half on both occasions. Both outweigh the need to completely tear into our team, there are plenty of other threads to do that in. On Saturday we punted 40 yard balls over the top to no great effect, and somehow won. Tonight we got the ball down and passed around as well as we have for a while (at least for the first half), and yet also to no great effect. These are not good traits for some of our players, and certainly not for the manager, but I'm pretty sure some of the patterns of passing play tonight must be what Johnson wants us doing, and as they've been absent for a while, I'm not going to apologise for including "passing" as a positive.
  8. With a home cup tie against European Champions Liverpool on the line, out-of-sorts City finally found their passing range after weeks of forgettable long balls. But despite this replay producing perhaps their best football for a month, they slowly retreated into familiar mistakes before eventually succumbing to lower league Shrewsbury. It’s yet another paradox in the divisive reign of manager Johnson, who despite apparently galvanising his players for this crucial replay, was out-coached for a second successive tie with mid-table League One opposition - danger-men Palmer and Eliasson neutralised at half time in the first fixture, Brownhill and Nagy similarly tonight. Indeed despite Brownhill and in particular man-of-the-match Nagy pulling the strings in a fluid first half full of slick link-up play, the decisive intervention was yet again from Shrews boss Ricketts who this time targeted City’s midfield pairing, knocking the visitors out of their stride, making their eventual upset more and more inevitable. In truth for all City’s neat interplay and possession, the Shropshire hosts always shaded the chances - a lack of cutting edge for the visitors highlighted by disjointed performances from Weimann and Diedhiou, anything but a well-drilled forward pairing. And that lack of attacking strategy was compounded in an increasingly sloppy finish. It looked so much more promising in an enthralling, end to end first half. Little did we know our best chance came and went after 8 minutes: Rowe was bundled over on the left, Paterson collecting the ball on the run to cross for Williams to head down to the edge of the box, Brownhill unleashing a fierce stinging shot that was beaten away. City were up for it and on 11 minutes Brownhill won the ball from a Shrewsbury corner and initiated a swarming break, playing a 40 yard crossfield pass to Weimann, the visitors probing from one side of the box to the other, before getting Hunt to the byline, whose cross was miscued by Weimann, Rowe eventually shooting tamely from range. Slowly Shrewsbury were matching their Championship opposition with fine build up play of their own, and inside 20 minutes their own spell of probing found full back Pierre pushed up to collect the ball well outside the box and lash a 25 yard rising shot just past the far post. It was a warning from the eventual match winner that City didn’t heed. By now Nagy was running the game, both he and Brownhill pushed up in more advanced midfield roles to link up play to good effect: on 21 minutes City swept it cross field to the left and Nagy threaded an instinctive square ball to put Paterson clear - his angled shot was blocked, but from the resultant corner Baker headed onto the post. On 28 minutes Shrewsbury broke down City’s left and swung the ball deep to where Hunt cut out the cross at the far post, only to centre it straight to the opposition striker dead centre of goal, his shot desperately blocked. It was symptomatic of yet another poor performance from right back Hunt who was verging on a liability at both ends. But the half belonged to City, and a spell of sustained pressure after 32 minutes saw good work from Paterson to recycle the ball, allow the visitors to produce 4 successive crosses into the box from open play - but the Shrews defended robustly and while striker Diedhiou hunted a finish, he rarely got near any balls in, much less Weimann. The game opened up for the remainder of an increasingly end to end half, and when Moore replaced hamstring injury victim Baker, it almost contrived an immediate error, the new look backline giving the ball away and out of position as striker Udoh found room to run at City’s box, unleashing a pile-driver that Bentley brilliantly pushed away. Before half time both sides blew gilt-edged chances to go in front, first Hunt raced upfield into midfield space before threading Diedhiou on goal, the striker shanking a clumsy rising shot over with just keeper to beat. For the hosts Giles returned the favour, put clear on goal and ahead of the last defender, he hammered an early shot way over. But just as he had done at Ashton Gate, Shrews boss Ricketts seemed to counter City’s most influential players after the break. Where in Bristol he had eliminated the threat of Eliasson and playmaker Palmer, this time round he would have his side press both Brownhill and Nagy, forcing them deeper and curtailing much of the visitors fluidity. Indeed it was nearly 10 minutes into the half when Brownhill played out from the back and fed Eliasson in the channel, the winger opening his body to divert the ball smartly into the path of Paterson wide left, who crossed to Diedhiou in space at the edge of the box, only for the striker - so in form on Saturday - to side foot comfortably wide. Minutes later Williams had to produce a sublime sliding tackle to intercept the ball and stop the hosts going clean through on goal, and from that recovery Brownhill got City tearing back - albeit with shades of handball - before finding Paterson in a free role in space attacking the box, only to hit a wild shot high and wide and into the crowd. Slowly City were running out of ideas and the mistakes that have plagued recent weeks started to reappear. Around the hour mark centre backs Moore and Williams each gave the ball away in quick succession with poorly chosen passes, and even when the visitors got forward, Hunt and Weimann lacked thought or composure on the ball. Johnson threw on Palmer for Paterson, while Shrewsbury made two changes of their own, and immediately it was the hosts who benefited. Their best chance yet saw a deep cross met by Lang who headed down and required Bentley to claw off the line. From the corner a desperate scramble was needed as the Shrews nearly turned home. At the other end Rowe’s wicked cross was headed behind at close range, and the visitors enjoyed a succession of Eliasson corners, without converting. The Swedish winger had been the target of robust treatment by his opponents, but so often accused of lacking a defensive game, he then twice chased back to recover possession for City. With under quarter of an hour left, Rowe again found room on the left and drilled a low shot across the edge of the box which was behind Diedhiou and Weimann, and not attacked by anyone else. Symptomatic of a now sloppy away side, captain Brownhill the worst culprit, repeatedly hurried into miscueing passes straight to the opposition. Indeed it only looked like Shrewsbury would find a winner in the last ten minutes as they tested City’s goal, so it was no surprise when another adjustment from the home boss saw final substitute Cummings race on with two minutes left, immediately winning and heading down the ball for full back Pierre to strike low past Bentley from 25 yards. With so little time remaining, delerium for the home fans and stunned silence from the near 1,300 City fans who had made the long midweek trip expecting so much more. Johnson finally brought on Semenyo for a front line that had badly needed alternatives much earlier in the fixture - once again a thankless task for the energetic City teenager. There were however chances, on 91 the Shrews missed a headed clearance from a Brownhill cross and the ball fell to Eliasson at the far post, only to volley wildly over. On 93 Diedhiou headed down for Weimann racing in, but the forward curiously failed to apply any finish. And with the last kick Diedhiou’s 20 yard volley flashed just wide. The truth is that City would not win or lose their ticket to a famous Liverpool cup tie in a chaotic final five minute rally. The opportunity to win the game was over 180 minutes and while Johnson finally reignited his side’s slick passing in an entertaining first half, being out-thought tactically second half raises more awkward questions for him. Bentley 6 Made a number of good saves, over-worked relative to his opposite number Hunt 5 God knows Pereira or Bailey Wright must be really bad because bar a few bright runs he’s useless at both ends of the pitch, doesn’t seem to know what he’s going to do next or where his touches or passes or crosses will go, he’s certainly a player out of confidence Rowe 6 Got forward well and far less of a liability than Hunt, two good crosses second half deserved more Williams 7 Very solid and composed throughout the game, even tidy on the ball when building from the back Baker 6 We looked more solid when he was on, and did nothing wrong, but not on long enough Brownhill 5 Was great in the first half, looked really hungry, up with play and involved in several key moves, then undid all his work by being awful second half, didn’t seem to be able to pass to teammates, kept making mistakes - as a team we have a culture of basic technical errors, as captain he is making more than most Nagy 7 Ran the midfield in the first half, was playing more advanced to help string moves together, but also always dropped or showed for the ball, by far the pick of our players, but Shrewsbury adjusted well to stop our midfield linking up second half Eliasson 6 Rarely got in the game, closely marked, was bundled over 4 times in succession in the first half (the booking which eventually followed for accumulated fouls was matched by one for Rowe for his first challenge - consistency eh!) and crossing was off target, as was his chance to square the game in injury time - only gets a 6 for chasing back to recover the ball Paterson 6 Made us much more fluid in attacking positions in the first half and recycled possession well, but little end product and one wild finish Weimann 5 I’m increasingly of the view that while he runs around a lot, he is a headless chicken (unless he's scoring) - he is not a conventional striker, he’s not a partner for Diedhiou, and so he offers little structure to our frontline, he seems to play his own game, or at least a materially different one to what we’re asking Diedhiou to do. Surely strikers drilled to combine is the way forward, please? Diedhiou 5 Sounds like he’s LJ’s scapegoat and it’s true he’s been rash, high and wide with two chances, and not a good game by his recent standards, but I can’t decide whether the service is up to it or not - we played pretty stuff, but crosses seem to be to no one in particular, he and Weimann are not feeding off one another, he ends up dropping wide to get the ball Moore 6 Played the ball out from the back better, but occasionally looked at risk of surrendering possession when out of position Palmer 5 I’m not sure once Shrewsbury started pressing our central midfielders in the second half that it made any sense to bring Palmer on in there - they did the same and sat on him and while he did well to hold off challenges and at least retain possession, he was rarely able to get his head up and play forwards, so little point in him being there Semenyo This was one game that was crying out for him, so of course he comes on in the 90th minute once we’re chasing the game
  9. Agree, I like their manager and have been impressed by them home and away last couple of seasons. Felt a bit sorry for them yesterday, they move the ball really well, quick diagonals out to the wing and then work the ball from there via overlaps or inside passes, and their strikers whilst tame finishers, are decent at holding it up and recycling possession. As a team they're easy on the eye and you could certainly see an identity and a quality. I know they lost but I don't buy this story that as such their football is pointless and we should be happy with our lot, I want to know why they are yet another team that is more organised and technically proficient enough to retain the ball and work it end to end - and we aren't. Because a) surely when we punt these whoosh balls forward like we did all day yesterday we are hoping to find our man in space and build from there, exactly as Wigan were consistently doing, rather than rely on the loose balls and half clearances that insued from our long balls. We got the right outcome but Wigan had the right method. And b) one mistake from our two CBs in the first 75 minutes (and let's be honest we've been making those for weeks) and Wigan have a presentable chance and we probably never get into the game. Our CBs were excellent at showing Wigan away from goal - Windass regularly had to turn and lay it back for a tame shot edge of the box. But I wouldn't call it huff and puff, they had a technical quality to retain possession around our box and try to work our defenders out of position (bit did not). Perhaps I'm biased as I like possession and passing but surely that's a better platform/identity for the things City want to achieve, and if so why can we consistently not manage it? We drunk before and after with a Wigan season ticket holder and he said it was the best they've played this season so I'm glad I wasn't seeing things. He's not stupid and bemoans the lack of cutting edge, but for 75 minutes they demonstrated more quality and certainly more idea and ambition to win the game and I find that worrying. Oh, and your question re: 4-4-2 and two wingers becomes sort of moot - I mentioned it in relation to the starting line up before the game, in the game itself we were more of a 4-0-2 as bar Korey Smith tidying up deep, we utterly bypassed our midfield, certainly we did not have the means to build through the middle until Nagy and Paterson. I agree and our centre backs did a fine job of shepherding their forwards wide or to the edge of the box such that most attempts were taken from 20 yards rather than 5 or 10, but it's very unfair to say "not actually want to do anything with that possession", in my opinion they had a very clear attacking intent in everything they wanted to do. As someone else pointed out they had 17-some odd shots and it certainly felt like they were able to engineer sustained periods of attacking possession whenever they won the ball in defence, in a way that is fundamental to shifting play into positive areas, a route we simply can't execute. Nothing to do with sitting in, just quality with the ball. Well as above our centre backs do take credit for showing Windass and co onto their back foot and into layoffs to the edge of the box from where attempts were more routine for Bentley - typically 20 yard daisy-cutters - but yes any kind of cutting edge and we'd have been well beaten, I'm sure LJ's box entry stat for Wigan would tell you that! I feared the worst when Joe Garner came on and he had the best chance, got in a lot closer and met a deep cross far post diving header, exactly the sort of goal we always concede at places like Wigan and Preston. But that was late in the game, prior to that Wigan had been the superior side (Dowell, Robinson, Windass) but had no easy chances.
  10. The lead up to this "must win" fixture for our of sorts City has been dominated by a clamour over the identity and number of strikers we need to sign. A much needed but smash and grab victory at Wigan left no doubt that while vast improvements are needed, man of the match Diedhiou up front is the very least of our problems. Away at one of the poorest teams in the Championship Lee Johnson talked about his side being bright and busy but for well over an hour the under pressure manager must have seemed close to the end as his team were totally outplayed by a sharper passing Wigan side that kept the ball for long periods, City's only plan to hoof long. The slick hosts dominated possession and it was just a propensity to shoot straight at Bentley that kept the game level. For 75 minutes City looked outclassed by one of the relegation favourites. But one player - Diedhiou - battled consistently and out of nothing he and sub Paterson provided the rare quality and instinct to steal the win. City went into the fixture without captain Brownhill for the first time in months due to surprise injury, and with boss Johnson promising a buzzing performance after a recent poor run, the small away following would have hoped for much with Eliasson in a 4-4-2 with two wingers away at struggling hosts. Instead they got one way traffic. Wigan moved the ball slickly and were in total control for the first ten, possession saw them camped in the City half, working the ball crisply in the channels: a damning indictment for their opponents who had no such passing and hit aimless long balls - indeed their only respite a Hunt free kick on halfway that didn't beat the first man. City's first and only chance came after the ten minute mark as Eliasson's first driving run on the left won a corner and Weimann characteristically came short to meet the ball, his header blocked and hacked clear. It was one of the away sides few corners to even beat the first man. And it was rare threat as Wigan continued to dominate. But midway through the half Diedhiou got into space on the right and unleashed a brilliant Eliasson-esque cross into the box, Weimann racing in to flash a header that was tipped wide. At the other end Wigan tore through the middle, Windass brought down a long ball, squaring to Joe Williams whose low shot on the run deflected wide. As poor as City had been they could have had a sensational lead just inside the half hour as yet another pointless long ball to no one in particular got half cleared to the edge of the box, that man Diedhiou taking down the ball and unleashing a volley that lashed into the postage stamp top corner - only to find Watkins had been offside. Minutes later Eliasson switched across to the right and collected a throw in, beat his man and crossed into the middle - where Diedhiou headed just over at close range, stretching. But these were rare moments of danger, more keep ball followed swiftly from Wigan, repeatedly picking diagonals in behind City, our defence overworked. At halftime Johnson's men had achieved a pitiful amount of possession as they tried (and failed) to galvanise their mid season slump and would've been under incredible pressure - Paterson on for the anonymous Watkins. And yet for the next 20 minutes it was more of the same as their impressive hosts repeatedly carved open City's right. On 47 a brilliant break off the Wigan left saw Robinson tear clear, the ball flashed across the box twice, back and forth, City keeper Bentley holding Dowell's hooked shot from the edge of the box. In minutes the home side found more space behind Hunt, Robinson racing clear again, testing stopper Bentley again at the near post. It continued to be one way traffic against anonymous City - on 54 minutes Dowell became the latest to roam free on the left, sweeping a cross to the far post where full back Byrne headed wide. Soon after the latest left wing foray saw Windass link up with Dowell, collecting an inside pass and drilling a shot straight at grateful Bentley. On the hour Johnson withdrew teenager Massengo - combative but often overrun - for his fellow midfielder Nagy. And almost immediately City's only impressive player, Diedhiou, took a long ball in his stride and struck a wicked dipping 25 yard shot on the run - our first on target - which the keeper tipped over for a series of corners. On 70 Rowe replaced Korey Smith yet still impressive Wigan pressed - and inevitably another break down the left by Dowell saw a deep cross to the far post met by Garner his diving header forcing a reflex Bentley save. The keeper would then hold a Dowell free kick and soon after Gelhardt curled over after combining with fellow sub Garner. Into the final quarter hour and little sense that City could get anything from their trip to the North - they certainly weren't owed anything. So it was miraculous in the 77th minute when that man Diedhiou threaded the ball beyond a defender and Paterson, forgotten until returning from the bench, raced clear and slipped it under the keeper. An improbable lead secured right in front of their away following and against their classy hosts, felt fortuitous. In just over a minute it would become incredible as sub Paterson turned provider, making room in midfield and dinking a short pass behind the defence, Diedhiou breaking the lines to angle the ball first time bottom corner. This time delerium from the bank of away fans as their talisman had a goal that his performance - as literally City's only stand out performer - hugely deserved, a smash and grab away win confirmed in a quiet final 10 minutes, easing pressure on under fire Johnson although Wigan's dominance and superiority on the ball leaves much to fix. Bentley 7 In truth Wigan attempts on goal were tame or they would have been well out of sight, but Bentley handling flawless Hunt 4 Exposed repeatedly for an hour in particular the first 20 minutes of the second half, punted nothing long balls forward every time he got it, awful football Dasilva 6 A few nice touches and runs they were reminiscent of his quality of last season but like Hunt also regularly narrow and exposed by Wigan's quality passing through the channels Williams 6 Had a lot to do and did it well but distribution - mainly punting long balls at the opposite box - was horrible to watch Baker 7 The better of the two centre backs, doesn't always get the start but his record must be pretty good now Smith 7 Tidy and sensible in a deep role, strong on the ball and picked simple short passes but zero attacking threat as part of a midfield that offered little in the opposition half Massengo 6 Combative and feisty in spells but also often bypassed or crowded out by a better organised Wigan in a game our midfield rarely got into Watkins 4 Completely anonymous - had no effect whatsoever Eliasson 6 Created a couple of chances and service to him was worse than awful but by his own high standards didn't really affect the game as much as he could Weimann 5 Also completely anonymous, although hard to blame him on 30% possession and long balls punted towards the Wigan keeper Diedhiou 8 Our best player by a mile - a stunning goal disallowed, an assist, a goal and two of our three shots on target, was only player who was "busy" in the first hour Paterson 7 Actually runs at people and has an instinct for a decent through ball that we don't possess besides Palmer - a much needed upgrade over Hunt and Williams hoofing it long Nagy 6 Tidier than Massengo but didn't make much of a difference to a midfield that was routinely bypassed Rowe 6 We looked more organised and solid in midfield with his energy off the ball
  11. Never thought I'd have a Premier League team until City got there, but ashamed to say that since last season I've got caught up in the excitement and emotion of the top flight. Maybe it's Sky and BT's coverage, maybe it's the quality of the players on show, but now every week I find that I'm a massive fan of whoever is playing Wolverhampton bastard Wanderers.
  12. My thoughts exactly. Anyone who has watched the last 7 games wouldn't even open their mouth about Liverpool unless we get through the replay, there is every chance we won't - I'm quite sure Shrewsbury will be up for it too. But no, everyone is giddy with excitement on Twitter and elsewhere, talk about tempting fate.
  13. I'm not going to hold my breath! Did you notice that like Brentford on Wednesday, Shrewsbury from time to time were also quite adept at getting a player in space in the channel and aiming a 30-40 yard pass straight to them. For a team that seems obsessed with early/direct attacks, we on the other hand aren't half chuffing useless at long passes. Have been since Pack left. It baffles me that we persist - I know half of it is down to the runs that Fam/Weimann need to make, but even then, it just strikes me our opponents are always much better at getting the ball successfully upfield than we are. We don't switch play upfield well unless its JD or Pato on the run (or even KP I think could offer us that). I wish we'd revert to the patient, possession based passing of last season, grind out a few 1-0's, but at least stop giving the ball away so cheaply by punting it 50 yards. I was screaming at them second half yesterday, we may as well have just been setup to give the ball back to Shrewsbury at every opportunity.
  14. This annoys me more than it should. I expected Shrewsbury to have a right good go of it and they did, anyone expecting a walkover is underestimating how much of a leveller cup football is, one division difference and us in poor form is all the incentive they needed to play with real desire. But what annoys me is it wasn't simply counter attacking smash and grab fire in the belly stuff. Half time they made adjustments and were the better side with far more possession second half, they knew what they were doing and they created chances. It's a bit more than plucky Shrewsbury, to be honest it you saw them keep the ball and us punting aimless long balls upfield with no quality or gameplan besides kick and rush you would have assumed we were the plucky underdog trying to get something. Yes LJ is right Shrewsbury deserved a replay, but I find the idea of congratulating them for their counter attacking and getting one a bit embarrassing and frankly patronizing as based on the second half football they should congratulate us for getting a replay.
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