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Agree 100% That's what he might have said, but he didn't seem to achieve it. That quote is one of the very few potentially favourable bits from a really damning verdict. It goes on to say "Seasoned Swansea watchers not only struggled to see that, they struggled to see what the game plan was from week to week. The consensus was there was no discernible feature of the team, nothing to make the side stand out or encourage hope. Players were said to be equally unconvinced." Six matches is luxury. The pitchforks were out for LM well before that

Some of the posts on here are embarrassing. No Ipswich are not Man City or Real Madrid, but they are second, have comfortably more than 2ppg, and were in good form (having won their last five) with lots of confidence. From where we started - three really depressing and disjointed performances - a competitive performance away to Ipswich is progress.

So who scored our second goal? And who provided the cross? But don't let me dampen your celebrations

Looks risky. Larsson as head coach AND part owner. Would he sack himself? Roles for others as well (presumably involved in football matters). Could get messy, with a y!

Just because clubs are near the bottom of the league doesn't mean they're crap at the moment! Wednesday had a really dreadful start with 6 points from their first 17 games, but then picked up 26 points from the next 17 which is pretty decent form. Similarly, QPR got 10 points from their first 17 games and then 25 from the next 17. Over the last 5 games (arbitrary I know, but easy to find as the BBC's league tables show this), both QPR and Wednesday have better records that either Southampton or Boro.

Let's see if we can recognise the trajectory. At the risk of slight arbitrariness, let's take each group of 10 years since we were relegated from what was then Div 1: 1980s 1 season in 2nd tier, 7 seasons in 3rd tier, 2 seasons in 4th tier 1990s 6 seasons in 2nd tier, 4 seasons in 3rd tier 2000s 3 seasons in 2nd tier, 7 seasons in 3rd tier 2010s 8 seasons in 2nd tier, 2 seaons in 3rd tier 2020s 4 seasons in 2nd tier It's not that long ago at all that we spent 8 consecutive seasons in the third tier. We've now spent 15 out of the last 17 seasons in the second tier. Things could certainly be better, but they could also be (and have been) an awful lot worse.

Silly idiots, they used the wrong rolodex. They should have used the "guaranteed promotion-winning managers just itching to come and work at Ashton Gate" list. Most of our recent appointments have fallen into three main categories: up and coming managers, probably with experience mainly in lower leagues - Manning, L Johnson and McInnes are recent examples more experienced managers - either with moderate track records or perhaps some with good records who have hit a rocky patch (or why else would they be available and willing to consider us?) - e.g. Pearson, Cotterill, O'Driscoll, Coppell , G Johnson and Wilson a rookie appointed from within (e.g. Holden and Tinnion). It worked for Bournemouth with Eddie Howe, but it's a very, very long shot. We're absolutely not alone in trying different approaches from time to time. Looking across the Championship, the 'up and coming' route has quite a good track record recently - Vincent Kompany, Paul Heckingbottom and Rob Edwards won promotion last year, Scott Parker and Steve Cooper the previous year, alongside exception Marco Dasilva. The main option we haven't tried recently (since Benny!) is bringing in an overseas coach - this has had a few successes, but also a large number of failures and is really difficult to get right. Some haven't worked, but not many have been complete disasters and I'd say Cotterill and both Johnsons were quite successful in their own ways. They just need to look around the office to try a bit harder to find that "guaranteed promotion-winning managers" list.

I thought I'd resurrect this thread (I could have chosen many others) just to illustrate how much our collective mood can change in the course of just two games. I don't want to come across too happy clappy, as yesterday was bad. But ..... football is a often game of very fine margins, and that includes many of our matches. I think we've played 23 games in all competitions under LM and only 3 have been decided by more than one goal (our wins over Watford & Southamption, and defeat to Preston); and it's easy to look at the league table and think that victories over Boro and Southampton (plus West Ham and holding Forest over 210 mins) make us world beaters, and then defeats to QPR and Wednesday make us relegation candidates. But over the last 5 games, QPR and Wednesday have actually picked up more points than either Boro or Southampton (others can hunt around for other form tables if they want - I just chose 5 games because my goto league table - the BBC's - also shows form over the last 5 games). My conclusion is that things might not be quite as bad as they seem right now, just as they probably weren't quite as good as they might have seemed after the Southampton match. Boring, I know ....

I think you've got confused about which of your toxic posts these exchanges started with. No problem, it can't be easy keeping up with all that negative stuff.

Or just that it's easier to put him on the bench for a home match?

Technically you are correct, you didn't explicitly mention Nige. But yet again you refer back to one specific aspirational statement that was mentioned at the time of Nige's departure. I think most posters know what's really ridiculous here ....

Wouldn't have happened under Nige

Shame the game lasted 97 minutes. Gutted not to keep a clean sheet

It's amazing how successful the club has been in spreading this myth that LM is well-respected, sought-after, bright young coach etc right across all of our independent national media. Especially as in all other respects, many posters seem to think those running the club are completely useless. Or, just a thought, may be all of those independent media outlets actually say what they think. Surely not?

So it's pure coincidence that Twine ended up here??

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there any chance the Seagull is Nige (or a close friend or relative)? I honestly think if we had signed Erling Haaland and/or Kevin de Bruyne on loan that would be wrong in some posters' views: because Nige wasn't given those funds; because they won't be our player when the loan expires; because they won't fit in with the Liam Manning/Brian Tinnion [delete whichever suits your argument] style of play; because they will block the pathway of a wunderkind playing for our under 16s; because Manning inherited a "top 6 squad" and therefore doesn't need any new signings; because it's inconsistent with some random off-the-cuff comment from Tinnion or a Lansdown that the poster will remember and hold them to for ever and ever; because some or all of the above means WE WERE LIED TO; or lots of similar reasons but you get the gist

I don't know the context for LM's comments, but we could have certaintly done with a bit more focus after Nakhi's goal on Tuesday

You said "we all". I didn't. So it's not we all. Simples

"Bird is a Robin" See what they did there?

Sorry, this is a lie. I did not know the plan and could certainly not see it working

OTIB at its finest When considering the likes of Tinnion and Jon Lansdown (and even Scott Murray FFS ) the pitchfork-wielding mob cry "jobs for the boys!" But fast forward to King and suddenly they shout "continuity!" Obviously nothing to do with King's connections with a certain ex manager?

But did they "say" it? It's possible they were dictating the message. But more likely they typed it. Call yourself a pedant???

Really pleased with this, but OTIB is excelling itself tonight. I think we've collectively forgotten what a loan means. I don't recall it being a problem that we didn't have an option on Tammy, or lots of other players we've had on loan in the past. And as for all the negative speculation about ulterior motives, desperation, etc - just get over yourselves. We've signed a good player. Even if we only have him for the rest of this seaons, it's a step forward.

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