Red white and red Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 5 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: All round - a ******* useless public service, never there when you actually need them. Priorities and decision making all over the place. How many plans have they managed to screw up? Mine for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 2 hours ago, JulieH said: Yes you are correct, it is not acceptable for fans to be messed about like this.. working alongside you all I fully understand that and am hopeful things can improve from this . Thanks for answering - but as you are reading this thread a question to you please? "Hopefully things can improve from here" Can you update us please on the disgracefully actions of the small Police Officer hitting out indiscriminately with his baton and was caught clearly on camera and seen on here after the Millwall game? That was a cowardly an act as I've seen for years, and noticed that despite many supporters asking for this to be looked into, I don't seem to have seen a follow-up. He (or she) turned a calm situation into a chaotic and potentially dangerous one, by being aggressive, and then for no reason jumped into a pack of his fellow officers and assaulted a member of the public by hitting him in the face with his baton. And then ran to the back of the Police line........ cowardly as well. Can I assume disciplinary action is forthcoming, and if not, why not, as it's clearly seen on camera. I have genuine respect for the majority of Police Officers, but not this one. A cowardly act by a small thug in uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 8 hours ago, JulieH said: I have read all comments on this thread over the last few hours and have taken on board all of the concerns, advice or other comments towards myself and a and s police regarding this change back to the Saturday at 1200hrs. as fordy correctly identifies I am not in a position to comment on this change back to the original date which I know most of you wont be overly happy with. However I can reassure you all that this fixture will be a safe event for everyone with a view to it becoming as near a normal fixture in the near future. i am really sorry that I can't answer all your questions regarding this, I would if I could!!! On what basis are you unable to answer questions? If others are correct with their "nod nod, wink wink" postings, will you release (suitably redacted if necessary) minutes of the extraordinary SAG meeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Red white and red said: We'll all have different opinions. Of course there are some very good people in the police doing good work, but I'm in no doubt that if they were operating as a business, well they'd be out of business sharpish as they do very little of what is fundamentally their responsibility. They are simply not fit for purpose. In some support of my views it was interesting to hear the Radio 5 phone-in this week. Even sceptial 'me' was shocked how the police service abandon victims. No wonder people seek their own justice. In the same way the council like to call us 'customers', becoming just an awarder of contracts, rather than a service, the police now seem to deliver their service in a way that is, in my view, contrary to the principles they were founded on and their reason for being. Oh, and the ambulance service is going the same way. People have died in my village because they've had to wait over an hour for an ambulance to arrive from nearly 30 miles way. No, it's not at all unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 6 hours ago, SX227 said: Thanks for answering - but as you are reading this thread a question to you please? "Hopefully things can improve from here" Can you update us please on the disgracefully actions of the small Police Officer hitting out indiscriminately with his baton and was caught clearly on camera and seen on here after the Millwall game? That was a cowardly an act as I've seen for years, and noticed that despite many supporters asking for this to be looked into, I don't seem to have seen a follow-up. He (or she) turned a calm situation into a chaotic and potentially dangerous one, by being aggressive, and then for no reason jumped into a pack of his fellow officers and assaulted a member of the public by hitting him in the face with his baton. And then ran to the back of the Police line........ cowardly as well. Can I assume disciplinary action is forthcoming, and if not, why not, as it's clearly seen on camera. I have genuine respect for the majority of Police Officers, but not this one. A cowardly act by a small thug in uniform. Im sure a number of people who either witnessed these actions first hand or have seen the evidence that was filmed would like to hear how this matter has been dealt with by the Police.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 7 hours ago, Northern Red said: It's definitely not on Sky anymore. They've got Stoke v Leicester and a Scottish match on at the same time. You're probably right but Sky do still have it listed on their site as one of their live games at 12pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 10 hours ago, bs3 said: I do have an understanding. After 7 years of austerity and cuts the Police are unable to Police effectively. The Fire service are unable to provide adequate cover across the country. Royal Navy unable to send ships to sea , the RAF unable to stop Russians airforce violating our airspace. Schools unable to afford books for pupils. The NHS unable to treat and care for all the people in this country. I understand that with this current government and its policy we are turning into a 2nd rate nation , unable to educate its children, care for its sick and elderly, uphold law and order and protect it self from enemies at home and abroad and run by unelected Quangos who decided that lights must be kept on with in a stadium stands during the game. Talentless politicians, unwilling to tax people with money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanemochi Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 48 minutes ago, Top Robin said: You're probably right but Sky do still have it listed on their site as one of their live games at 12pm There's no channel associated with the fixture, so although still on the list it won't be televised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 16, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 3 hours ago, View from the Dolman said: On what basis are you unable to answer questions? If others are correct with their "nod nod, wink wink" postings, will you release (suitably redacted if necessary) minutes of the extraordinary SAG meeting? @View from the Dolman sadly our council / SAG is one of the few that won't publish these minutes, which is a real shame at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevep38 Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 9 hours ago, harrys said: You loser, it's about time you realised that no one gives a **** about football fans and we are treated like shyte, stay in Edinburgh mate, football clubs don't deserve proper fans like you and me Loser????? Very harsh and totally uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redinthehead Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 12 hours ago, SX227 said: Thanks for answering - but as you are reading this thread a question to you please? "Hopefully things can improve from here" Can you update us please on the disgracefully actions of the small Police Officer hitting out indiscriminately with his baton and was caught clearly on camera and seen on here after the Millwall game? That was a cowardly an act as I've seen for years, and noticed that despite many supporters asking for this to be looked into, I don't seem to have seen a follow-up. He (or she) turned a calm situation into a chaotic and potentially dangerous one, by being aggressive, and then for no reason jumped into a pack of his fellow officers and assaulted a member of the public by hitting him in the face with his baton. And then ran to the back of the Police line........ cowardly as well. Can I assume disciplinary action is forthcoming, and if not, why not, as it's clearly seen on camera. I have genuine respect for the majority of Police Officers, but not this one. A cowardly act by a small thug in uniform. Seriously? Unbelievable that you're actually a grown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 9 hours ago, stevep38 said: Loser????? Very harsh and totally uncalled for. You're right Steve, please accept my apologies, can't even remember posting that last night but I was well and truly bladdered, as you say, totally uncalled for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevep38 Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, harrys said: You're right Steve, please accept my apologies, can't even remember posting that last night but I was well and truly bladdered, as you say, totally uncalled for Appology accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 On 16/09/2017 at 01:00, SX227 said: Thanks for answering - but as you are reading this thread a question to you please? "Hopefully things can improve from here" Can you update us please on the disgracefully actions of the small Police Officer hitting out indiscriminately with his baton and was caught clearly on camera and seen on here after the Millwall game? That was a cowardly an act as I've seen for years, and noticed that despite many supporters asking for this to be looked into, I don't seem to have seen a follow-up. He (or she) turned a calm situation into a chaotic and potentially dangerous one, by being aggressive, and then for no reason jumped into a pack of his fellow officers and assaulted a member of the public by hitting him in the face with his baton. And then ran to the back of the Police line........ cowardly as well. Can I assume disciplinary action is forthcoming, and if not, why not, as it's clearly seen on camera. I have genuine respect for the majority of Police Officers, but not this one. A cowardly act by a small thug in uniform. To @JulieH again. Can this be answered? I appreciate being all chummy and funny on the pitch invader thread is probably more pleasant, but I would have thought this is equally as important? On 16/09/2017 at 13:27, Redinthehead said: Seriously? Unbelievable that you're actually a grown up. Seems you might be on your own with your thoughts about Police Officers battoning a bloke minding his own business for no apparent reason......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Sorry about the delay but I have been making enquiries re this. i have spoken to the department who deals with complaints and they have received no offcial complaint around this footage. I have therefore asked them to review it. i don't consider myself chummy or funny and I certainly don't choose which questions to answer, or which are more important, some just take more time as I don't have control over complaints or review of them. i will continue to update as soon as I have updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 15/09/2017 at 16:07, JamesBCFC said: Are there many Monday mornings on Thursdays? No no-first half 8am Monday, second half 8am Thursday.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, JulieH said: Sorry about the delay but I have been making enquiries re this. i have spoken to the department who deals with complaints and they have received no offcial complaint around this footage. I have therefore asked them to review it. i don't consider myself chummy or funny and I certainly don't choose which questions to answer, or which are more important, some just take more time as I don't have control over complaints or review of them. i will continue to update as soon as I have updates. Thankyou very much. As I say, I have genuine respect for most serving Police Officers, but they must be as accountable as everyone else for their actions. You seem to be a very good choice for Liason Officer, takes some guts to ask for a review based on info posted on an internet forum. Fair play to you - I would suggest your response has impressed a lot of people on here. I look forward, as do others to an update when appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I would say this is a purely political decision by A & S IMHO. Big local derby live on TV, moved because A & S cannot guarantee safety????. A good way to get your point across knowing how vocal football fans are and financially punishing 2 clubs. What I find very strange is on the armed police thread there is praise for tri force cooperation for the extra armed police, in the past South Wales used to regularly use A & S mounties, I am sure between these 2 large forces they could have sorted this match out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I would say this is a purely political decision by A & S IMHO. Big local derby live on TV, moved because A & S cannot guarantee safety????. A good way to get your point across knowing how vocal football fans are and financially punishing 2 clubs. What I find very strange is on the armed police thread there is praise for tri force cooperation for the extra armed police, in the past South Wales used to regularly use A & S mounties, I am sure between these 2 large forces they could have sorted this match out. In a nutshell Es. Been saying this ever since it was changed back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSEX ROBIN Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 15/09/2017 at 23:32, stevep38 said: Yep i booked tickets with queezy jet from edinburgh for this. Just hope i can cancel and get my money back or ive lost best part of 150.00 not including hotel airport parking ect. Really ruined it for me. Hope you get lucky mate so annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSEX ROBIN Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 15/09/2017 at 17:04, phantom said: If we had an an angry button I'd push it for you here, piss poor effort from a variety of sources, just can't believe the club are acting like they had no part in this happening Its always us fans that suffer,sky only give a few weeks notice of a game as well that never helps in getting the best deals on trains etc least we are playing well :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 On the selfish plus note at least I can now watch this game on my BCFCTV feed, instead of a dodgy sky feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I would say this is a purely political decision by A & S IMHO. Big local derby live on TV, moved because A & S cannot guarantee safety????. A good way to get your point across knowing how vocal football fans are and financially punishing 2 clubs. What I find very strange is on the armed police thread there is praise for tri force cooperation for the extra armed police, in the past South Wales used to regularly use A & S mounties, I am sure between these 2 large forces they could have sorted this match out. We are in tri force with Devon and Cornwall, Wiltshire and Gloucestershire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, JulieH said: We are in tri force with Devon and Cornwall, Wiltshire and Gloucestershire. Didn't know about the others but would make sense- certainly seen D&C vans down there last couple of years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 hours ago, JulieH said: We are in tri force with Devon and Cornwall, Wiltshire and Gloucestershire. Does that not technically make you 'quad force'? (Or even sexa-force if we are mixing our counties) I hope someone raises their magic truncheon and shouts 'ASSEMBLE'. And then the magic happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 5 hours ago, JulieH said: We are in tri force with Devon and Cornwall, Wiltshire and Gloucestershire. I am aware of that, but was trying to say that South Wales had a vested interest as Cardiff City are a team from their area and certainly in the dim and distant past A & S has shared resources with South Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Pathetic decision, it's not the 1990's even if there is a bit of bother just do what your paid for and police it, it's hardly going to be world war three whatever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redinthehead Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Minding his own business? At the front of a group of people trying to push past police because they've been told to go the other way. This attitude of poking the police until they hit you and then suddenly going crying to mummy is one of the most pathetic things I see and I mainly see it from football fans unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC1512 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 9 hours ago, xerox6060 said: Pathetic decision, it's not the 1990's even if there is a bit of bother just do what your paid for and police it, it's hardly going to be world war three whatever happens. This! Bottom line is it's lazy policing again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 What's the point? I bet you it will change to Sunday next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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