Never to the dark side Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 news as in the header Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 strange one that, he did a half decent job there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Ability to correctly use the English language leaves OTIB. News as above. In all serious though, he seemed to be absolutely loathed by the Everton faithful. Everton will surely go for Marco Silva now, even with all the controversy surrounding his departure from Watford. Everton fans should be careful what they wish for, I can see another repeat of the season just gone, you can't sell such a goalscorer in Lukaku and replace him with an ageing Rooney and a Spanish striker who has had one good season in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Will be another big pay day for Big Sam, bet he's laughing all the way to his offshore bank. Where will he end up next? Back at Newcastle when a bigger club finally tempts Rafa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogkev said: Will be another big pay day for Big Sam, bet he's laughing all the way to his offshore bank. Where will he end up next? Back at Newcastle when a bigger club finally tempts Rafa? thats not sam's fault he's getting a pay day is it? so why hold it against him, he took over the club in 18th in free fall and guided them 8th finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Monkeh said: thats not sam's fault he's getting a pay day is it? so why hold it against him, he took over the club in 18th in free fall and guided them 8th finish I think Everton were 13th by the time Sam took over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Newquay-Red said: I think Everton were 13th by the time Sam took over i stand corrected, point still stands though, they were leaking goals left right and centre under the previous man, sam stopped that, I know his football isn't pretty on the eye at time but he does know how to get the best out of players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 It's been too long..... Job for Cotts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Not really a shock....he was brought in to stabilise Everton in the short term and he did just that....he tightened them up at the back and took them to a safe 8th place finish. Not every management appointment has long term thinking behind it...if you want to get promoted out of the championship you appoint Neil Warnock or Steve Bruce - they have eight promotions to the premier league between them....that doesn’t mean they are good premier league managers though, but they will get you there....then you can say thanks very much, pay their promotion bonus and move onto a proven premier league boss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 People criticising this decision are banging on about 8th place finish. It is irrelevant in this case as the fans demand good football, and fair play to them for that. I would rather see a great footballing side draw 3-3 than a Pulis type team win 1-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, RedDave said: People criticising this decision are banging on about 8th place finish. It is irrelevant in this case as the fans demand good football, and fair play to them for that. I would rather see a great footballing side draw 3-3 than a Pulis type team win 1-0 I have no affection for Pulis but it’s often said on here that he just deals in 0-0 draws and 1-0 victories....in his 5 months as Boro boss they’ve had one 0-0 draw and one 1-0 win...not counting the play offs. Instead he’s dealt in a 2-3 win away at PNE, a 0-3 win away at QPR, a 3-3 draw at Sunderland, a 3-0 win vs Leeds, a 3-1 win vs Hull, a 3-1 win against Barnsley, a 2-2 draw at Ipswich etc....dreary 0-0s and boring 1-0 wins under Pulis are a myth.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, RedDave said: People criticising this decision are banging on about 8th place finish. It is irrelevant in this case as the fans demand good football, and fair play to them for that. I would rather see a great footballing side draw 3-3 than a Pulis type team win 1-0 Only criticism i'd have in that regard, he was brought in for the job of suring them up, job done. He had one transfer window. But not much chance of changing style of play with 1 window and objective A to achieve. Unless he told the higher ups he had no intention of changing then fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I have no affection for Pulis but it’s often said on here that he just deals in 0-0 draws and 1-0 victories....in his 5 months as Boro boss they’ve had one 0-0 draw and one 1-0 win...not counting the play offs. Instead he’s dealt in a 2-3 win away at PNE, a 0-3 win away at QPR, a 3-3 draw at Sunderland, a 3-0 win vs Leeds, a 3-1 win vs Hull, a 3-1 win against Barnsley, a 2-2 draw at Ipswich etc....dreary 0-0s and boring 1-0 wins under Pulis are a myth.... there weren't a myth when he was manager here, but that was almost 20 years ago now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Monkeh said: there weren't a myth when he was manager here, but that was almost 20 years ago now 5 nil-nil draws and one 1-0 win when Pulis was our manager....there was also a 5-2 and a 4-4...but as you said, a long time ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Isn’t he one of the 4 or 5 managers that have managed most of the clubs in the Premiership? Wonder where he will pop up next, get your bingo cards ready.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 This is absolutely the type of manager a ' Premier League ' club in waiting would move mountains to hire ... So no chance he'll be coming here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 35 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Not really a shock....he was brought in to stabilise Everton in the short term and he did just that....he tightened them up at the back and took them to a safe 8th place finish. Not every management appointment has long term thinking behind it...if you want to get promoted out of the championship you appoint Neil Warnock or Steve Bruce - they have eight promotions to the premier league between them....that doesn’t mean they are good premier league managers though, but they will get you there....then you can say thanks very much, pay their promotion bonus and move onto a proven premier league boss.... Stop talking sense. What you need is to come up with a smart @ss master plan involving paying millions for 19/20 y.o. who you can loan out and never use and get one of your under qualified and inexperienced mates to oversee said plan over a 10 year period with actually no guarantees it will actually work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, RedM said: Isn’t he one of the 4 or 5 managers that have managed most of the clubs in the Premiership? Wonder where he will pop up next, get your bingo cards ready.... Dibs on Watford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, hodge said: Dibs on Watford nah he won't go there, I'm thinking Southampton myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRed Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Job for Moyes? Oh, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Monkeh said: nah he won't go there, I'm thinking Southampton myself Well documented Southampton have a philosophy etc and hire managers who match that rather then go for manager first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, hodge said: Well documented Southampton have a philosophy etc and hire managers who match that rather then go for manager first. why did they hire Hughes then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: why did they hire Hughes then? Supposedly matched it (to what extent can't know). Remember reading a newspaper article about their process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 I would imagine this is why Everton fans aren't mourning his departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Quite why Leeds haven't appointed him as yet is beyond me If ever an appointment made more sense I'd like to hear it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, RedDave said: People criticising this decision are banging on about 8th place finish. It is irrelevant in this case as the fans demand good football, and fair play to them for that. I would rather see a great footballing side draw 3-3 than a Pulis type team win 1-0 Genuine question. Would you be happier finishing 8th and playing unattractive football, or would you be happier if you got relegated but drew all your games 3-3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Methinks the Evertons and Southamptons of this world have lost touch with reality, the latter disposing of a manager who'd led them to European contention but who didn't play attractive football. The **** they've been knocking out to stave off relegation all season really set the pulses racing. As previous, no fan has ever asked 'how we played' prior to asking 'what's the result?' Would I take mechanistic football delivering trophies over wildly entertaining football - absolutely, every time. Until such time as the league tables consist of judges scores rather than WDL I suggest the answer is self-evident. Funny how on one hand Newcastle fans bleat on about having won little in decades yet revere Keegan, a man who brought them, well not much in the top flight other than basketball scores. He'd sure have a far higher profile in that town had he been able to shut up shop and secured the title with a succession of 1-0 victories. Hammers fans bang on about Greenwood's 'West Ham Way', yet those old enough to have seen it know that often consisted of relegation fought 'kick and rush'. Nothing against the Toffees but how sweet it would be were Big Sam to cajole safety for a no-hope XI thus relegating the Blues and their beautiful game to The Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Moyes gone from West Ammmmm too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Harry said: Genuine question. Would you be happier finishing 8th and playing unattractive football, or would you be happier if you got relegated but drew all your games 3-3? Unanswerable question............... I'm sure most of us go to AG to be entertained and to me that means seeing City play attractive football. To me there's nothing more boring than seeing football played with the hand brake on. On TalkSport Evertonians were saying how dull Big Sams football was and most were glad that's he's gone. Cascarino was saying that under Pulis Boro offered nothing going forward even tho they were 1-0 down in the Championship semi last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa_bcfc Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 It won’t happen, as we couldn’t afford him and he wouldn’t want it, but I’d have him as our manager all day long. Experienced manager required if we are to improve on this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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