Super Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Not bad if you can get it! Portugal forward Cristiano Ronaldo will earn almost £73,000 a day at Juventus, with his four-year deal worth about £26m a year. The 33-year-old has joined the Italian champions from Real Madrid for £99.2m. (Mirror) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Best bit of business any club has ever done (Real Madrid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Who next for real , they love a flying lb who can operate on the wing and chip in with a few wonder goals ..... joe Bryan to wear the famous number 7 next season for real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 You'd think as a transfer for a 33 year old, that record is going to stand for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, bengalcub said: Who next for real , they love a flying lb who can operate on the wing and chip in with a few wonder goals ..... joe Bryan to wear the famous number 7 next season for real Mbappe I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 year deal ? What sort of sell on will there be for the 37 year old gelled tumbler in four years time ? Haven't Juve heard of the five pillars ? Absolute madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 The thing is, it's sort of affordable for Juventus. Because they aren't huge spenders (net spenders that is) and presumably they have a big warchest as a result- and will be selling a number of players. Definite short-termism at that club though...but it will raise their profile hugely tbh. His replacement? Neymar or Hazard would make sense, positionally, but Mbappe is the youngest of the 3 and is the hottest property so bidding for Mbappe wouldn't surprise. In a funny way, it's gone a bit full circle. In 2001 when Real Madrid were getting big again, they signed Zidane from Juventus when they were a powerhouse. Now Juventus on the rise again after Calciopoli, have signed Ronaldo from Madrid when they are a powerhouse- both in the top 2 players in the world at their respective times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Either Madrid will go for Mbappe or will go for Neymar helping PSG afford Mbappe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, Gazred said: You'd think as a transfer for a 33 year old, that record is going to stand for some time. He's the exception though, always going to make money through kit sales, ticket sales, sponsors etc. Would be a bit different if Juventus were paying 100m and 70k a day for Charlie Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Eastside Moonwalker said: He's the exception though, always going to make money through kit sales, ticket sales, sponsors etc. Would be a bit different if Juventus were paying 100m and 70k a day for Charlie Adam How many shirts do you think they have to sell to make it profitable ? Are they , realistically going to sell more tickets than they do currently ? Are the sponsors going to shell out more just because of the signing ? How many Champion's League cups do they need to win to even break even ? I don't know but they are paying eyewateringly huge amounts for the privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, Eastside Moonwalker said: He's the exception though, always going to make money through kit sales, ticket sales, sponsors etc. Would be a bit different if Juventus were paying 100m and 70k a day for Charlie Adam Remember they can amortise the fee- so that's 25 million per year in FFP terms on fee. Hefty but not quite as daunting. 29 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: How many shirts do you think they have to sell to make it profitable ? Are they , realistically going to sell more tickets than they do currently ? Are the sponsors going to shell out more just because of the signing ? How many Champion's League cups do they need to win to even break even ? I don't know but they are paying eyewateringly huge amounts for the privilege. Highly relevant and interesting article on this very thing. Particularly shirt sales. Quote No club has ever directly recouped a player’s transfer fee through shirt sales. Adidas, Nike, Puma and other kit suppliers get 85-90% of shirt sale revenue and this is the industry standard. Think the link to the article is. https://www.theguardian.com/football/the-set-pieces-blog/2016/aug/24/transfer-window-market-myths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xspence Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: How many shirts do you think they have to sell to make it profitable ? Are they , realistically going to sell more tickets than they do currently ? Are the sponsors going to shell out more just because of the signing ? How many Champion's League cups do they need to win to even break even ? I don't know but they are paying eyewateringly huge amounts for the privilege. There was an interesting article someone posted on this. Highlighting how shirt sales etc paying for a player is an urban legend. The clubs make such little money on them. Also it’s unlikely to increase actual sales significantly. Just means those they do sell will have Ronaldo on the back rather than Higuain. I expect it does increase media exposure for sponsors to pay more etc. But £73k a day (and that’s ignoring the fee) is a lot more!!! He is an undoubted great of the current generation, one of the best ever, but signing him until he is 37 for that money seems so so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Harry Kane/Eden Hazard, you heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Ronaldo to Juve, Rugani & Higuain to Chelsea, Hazard to Real Madrid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 36 minutes ago, Eastside Moonwalker said: He's the exception though, always going to make money through kit sales, ticket sales, sponsors etc. Would be a bit different if Juventus were paying 100m and 70k a day for Charlie Adam Vast majority of kit sales money doesn't go near the club. https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/neymar-transfer-psg-barcelona-latest-shirt-sales-world-record-198m-a7874731.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: 4 year deal ? What sort of sell on will there be for the 37 year old gelled tumbler in four years time ? Haven't Juve heard of the five pillars ? Absolute madness. He isn't going to stay there for four years realistically though. In about 2 years I bet he ends up going to Man Utd, PSG (Sorted FFP out), Man City, China or the MLS. I would be more surprised if this is not a 3 party transfer in reality - PSG can't make the finances work until they offload Neymar or Mbappe so Juve step in for one year, PSG then sell Mbappe or Neymar or both over this summer (to Real perhaps, funded in part by Ronaldo) then they are in a position to assume his wages next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Majority of his salary being paid by EXOR group who own Juventus, Fiat and Ferrari - so basically he'll be paid 20mil to become global face of Ferrari as a loop hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 50 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Remember they can amortise the fee- so that's 25 million per year in FFP terms on fee. Hefty but not quite as daunting. Highly relevant and interesting article on this very thing. Particularly shirt sales. Think the link to the article is. https://www.theguardian.com/football/the-set-pieces-blog/2016/aug/24/transfer-window-market-myths Is that a hidden advantage of us making the kits in house? For arguments sake - let's say we are signing someone like Ronaldo. Presumably then we get to keep all the kit revenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Harry Kane/Eden Hazard, you heard it here first. Yeah if Kane wins the golden boot I can see that happening. Potentially Barcelona might like him too, they might want to replace Suarez and previously Lineker did well for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Think one factor may be Tax of %40+ in Spain Ronaldo earns £40 million in endorsements alone , annually Apparently in Italy , on that £40 million he’d have to pay a whole 88k tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Think the shirt sales thing is taken far too literally. It’s more about the general profile of the club. More shirts sold as a result of more fans around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Major Isewater said: 4 year deal ? What sort of sell on will there be for the 37 year old gelled tumbler in four years time ? Haven't Juve heard of the five pillars ? Absolute madness. His body is conditioned more of a 27 year old though. He also rarely gets injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said: Is that a hidden advantage of us making the kits in house? For arguments sake - let's say we are signing someone like Ronaldo. Presumably then we get to keep all the kit revenue? We would... Yes it would be an advantage, but also of the view that were we to sign someone like Ronaldo and become a megaclub, we wouldn't have the capacity to produce sufficient kits should it reach that stage. Were it the case, Real Madrid and Man Utd and many more would produce their own kits, as opposed to big sponsorship deals with Adidas etc. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Major Isewater said: How many shirts do you think they have to sell to make it profitable ? Are they , realistically going to sell more tickets than they do currently ? Are the sponsors going to shell out more just because of the signing ? How many Champion's League cups do they need to win to even break even ? I don't know but they are paying eyewateringly huge amounts for the privilege. Is he or she a relation Major? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 30 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We would... Yes it would be an advantage, but also of the view that were we to sign someone like Ronaldo and become a megaclub, we wouldn't have the capacity to produce sufficient kits should it reach that stage. Were it the case, Real Madrid and Man Utd and many more would produce their own kits, as opposed to big sponsorship deals with Adidas etc. IMO. That's a good point, was thinking why the big clubs don't produce in house but that's obviously the reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 48 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We would... Yes it would be an advantage, but also of the view that were we to sign someone like Ronaldo and become a megaclub, we wouldn't have the capacity to produce sufficient kits should it reach that stage. Were it the case, Real Madrid and Man Utd and many more would produce their own kits, as opposed to big sponsorship deals with Adidas etc. IMO. If that were ever to be the case, I'm sure Steve would get Maggie a bigger and faster sewing machine so she could cope with increased demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRed Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Is that a hidden advantage of us making the kits in house? For arguments sake - let's say we are signing someone like Ronaldo. Presumably then we get to keep all the kit revenue? Maybe Bristol Sport should offer to make kits for Juve, giving the Italians a bigger percentage than they currently get, and naturally, making BS a pile of dosh in the process. G'wan Steve, get on the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Fiat car workers in Turin are talking about going on strike after Juventus bought Ronaldo. It appears that the owner of Juventus and part owner pf Fiat has not only agreed to the transfer but also to an expensive advertising campaign introducing Ronaldo to the club. The fiat workers have had their salaries frozen for several years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Midred said: Fiat car workers in Turin are talking about going on strike after Juventus bought Ronaldo. It appears that the owner of Juventus and part owner pf Fiat has not only agreed to the transfer but also to an expensive advertising campaign introducing Ronaldo to the club. The fiat workers have had their salaries frozen for several years! I think they may have gone on strike before, my Abarth rattles like a bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 If Real Madrid think Neymar would be a like for like replacement for Ronaldo, they're very much mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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