Top Robin Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 That step from mid table championship football to genuine promotion contenders requires a bit more than Lee has....a clever footballing brain, experience and good decision making. Im not sure he will ever have the qualities to get us over the line and we will be spluttering in the mid to lower reaches of the championship or worse for the foreseeable future. There are some good footballers in our squad and i am really convinced that a better manager would have drilled this team into a decent outfit......as opposed to what we saw today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_BCFC Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Suprised he can reach anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Even if we finish 21st with LJ he won't be sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 seasons ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Clueless. Absolutely clueless. 39 quid a ticket to watch that. It's hardly surprising though. He'll still be here in 5 years time unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 He reached his pinnacle the day he got the job here, he’s a powderpuff manager any other club he’d of been gone a long time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Did nothing before he came here. Done nothing since he got here. He's a league 1 journeyman manager like his old man. Were stagnating with a team of very average players. SSDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Top Robin said: That step from mid table championship football to genuine promotion contenders requires a bit more than Lee has....a clever footballing brain, experience and good decision making. Im not sure he will ever have the qualities to get us over the line and we will be spluttering in the mid to lower reaches of the championship or worse for the foreseeable future. There are some good footballers in our squad and i am really convinced that a better manager would have drilled this team into a decent outfit......as opposed to what we saw today. You assume the club wants us to be promotion contenders. The signs are that the medium term aim is to improve the finances by developing and selling players while maintaining Championship status. That requires a head coach who is prepared to live with that and the limits it places on him. Indeed LJ himself said earlier in the season that he didn't want it all to be about the future, suggesting that is exactly the aim and that he gets frustrated by it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I wonder how how he got the job in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Only if he has a ladder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStandUp Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Would anyone argue with the fact we were the better team today. And we missed chances because we lack quality in the final 3rd, and we lost to a team who had 2 chances and took them? I think that's a pretty fair summation. The performance wasn't the issue, the lack of quality was. That isn't Johnsons fault. As I've said in previous threads, you sell your better players, don't replace them, what do you expect? Honestly, what do people actually expect? On paper we look mid table, and that's what we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 If recent performances are the best he can get out of the players he’s recruited Time to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs22 red Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Our budget is lower end championship. But every one thinks we should be at the top end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilboBaggins05 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I don’t think Johnson is the best manager In the Championship but vice verca I don’t think he’s the worst. He needs to sort out consistency, but generally our defence needs to be more adaptable. We can’t deal with changing it up for a change of pace and that’s not Johnson’s fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, ForeverRes said: Would anyone argue with the fact we were the better team today. And we missed chances because we lack quality in the final 3rd, and we lost to a team who had 2 chances and took them? I think that's a pretty fair summation. The performance wasn't the issue, the lack of quality was. That isn't Johnsons fault. As I've said in previous threads, you sell your better players, don't replace them, what do you expect? Honestly, what do people actually expect? On paper we look mid table, and that's what we are. Disagree, there are other clubs in this league who ‘sell’ their better players and continue to improve. Brentford is a prime example. I agree we have created chances but we haven’t taken them. The club wants to become self sufficient and that isn’t a bad thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, ForeverRes said: Would anyone argue with the fact we were the better team today. And we missed chances because we lack quality in the final 3rd, and we lost to a team who had 2 chances and took them? I think that's a pretty fair summation. The performance wasn't the issue, the lack of quality was. That isn't Johnsons fault. As I've said in previous threads, you sell your better players, don't replace them, what do you expect? Honestly, what do people actually expect? On paper we look mid table, and that's what we are. We didn’t create chances (which we promptly missed) they gifted them as we did for them Lack of quality - who recruited , signed , and picks the players Who is meant to have an actual plan and a way of playing (Maybe you can explain it to me) Who plays tombola with game plans and seleclions Some of the players were abysmal today but stop making excuses for the Head Coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, ForeverRes said: Would anyone argue with the fact we were the better team today. And we missed chances because we lack quality in the final 3rd, and we lost to a team who had 2 chances and took them? I think that's a pretty fair summation. The performance wasn't the issue, the lack of quality was. That isn't Johnsons fault. As I've said in previous threads, you sell your better players, don't replace them, what do you expect? Honestly, what do people actually expect? On paper we look mid table, and that's what we are. lack of quality not Johnson's fault, you are joking I assume, every one of those players are players he signed and coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, ForeverRes said: Would anyone argue with the fact we were the better team today. And we missed chances because we lack quality in the final 3rd, and we lost to a team who had 2 chances and took them? I think that's a pretty fair summation. The performance wasn't the issue, the lack of quality was. That isn't Johnsons fault. As I've said in previous threads, you sell your better players, don't replace them, what do you expect? Honestly, what do people actually expect? On paper we look mid table, and that's what we are. We were nowhere near the team we were back in December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsaw Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Some people need a really check he set the team up well today and it was working we where the better side of 60mins before 2 poor mistakes cost us just how is that Lee's fault, we are a mid tablet side in this league lacking the big names up front and on days like this it will cost us as we don't take our chances, that's got more to do with the club not wanting to spend millions, Lee is just making the best of what he's been given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, ForeverRes said: Would anyone argue with the fact we were the better team today. And we missed chances because we lack quality in the final 3rd, and we lost to a team who had 2 chances and took them? I think that's a pretty fair summation. The performance wasn't the issue, the lack of quality was. That isn't Johnsons fault. As I've said in previous threads, you sell your better players, don't replace them, what do you expect? Honestly, what do people actually expect? On paper we look mid table, and that's what we are. Hang on a sec.... This wasn't a one off game where the quality wasn't there. The quality isn't there because the players Johnson have bought in are just not good enough. And to many of them are certainly not improving under his coaching This is HIS team. HIS players. HIS way of doing things Nothing changes. Players come ....player go. But no matter what ....we are still powder puff with absolutely no real quality At some point the buck has to stop with the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, ForeverRes said: Would anyone argue with the fact we were the better team today. And we missed chances because we lack quality in the final 3rd, and we lost to a team who had 2 chances and took them? I think that's a pretty fair summation. The performance wasn't the issue, the lack of quality was. That isn't Johnsons fault. As I've said in previous threads, you sell your better players, don't replace them, what do you expect? Honestly, what do people actually expect? On paper we look mid table, and that's what we are. You are absolute deluded. Two chances? Clean through in the first half? Free header missed in the first half. Plus another couple in the second half. Give it a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Mid-table Championship side at best under LJ I’m afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStandUp Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: We didn’t create chances (which we promptly missed) they gifted them as we did for them Lack of quality - who recruited , signed , and picks the players Who is meant to have an actual plan and a way of playing (Maybe you can explain it to me) Who plays tombola with game plans and seleclions Some of the players were abysmal today but stop making excuses for the Head Coach We created chances. We got in dangerous areas. You talk about recruitment, you sell a player like Bobby Reid. To replace him to the same standard it's 1. A lot of money (which we don't spend), 2. You're looking at players like Assombolonga, Tammy etc... why would they come to City? We're forced to gamble once again on an unknown quantity. Answer my original question, look at our squad, do you really think we're anything better than mid table. Ironically you mentioned set up, we changed system and look good today, dominated first half and large portions of second half. Hope he sticks to that or atleast play that extra man in midfield. We'll see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, winsaw said: Some people need a really check he set the team up well today and it was working we where the better side of 60mins before 2 poor mistakes cost us just how is that Lee's fault, we are a mid tablet side in this league lacking the big names up front and on days like this it will cost us as we don't take our chances, that's got more to do with the club not wanting to spend millions, Lee is just making the best of what he's been given This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, pillred said: lack of quality not Johnson's fault, you are joking I assume, every one of those players are players he signed and coaches. Hang on thats a bit left field..... Best a few cling onto the ‘Theyre not his signings claim’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStandUp Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Top Robin said: We were nowhere near the team we were back in December The system we played last season made us look a lot better than we are. It showed that it's not realistic to play the way we did for 46 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 29 minutes ago, Top Robin said: That step from mid table championship football to genuine promotion contenders requires a bit more than Lee has....a clever footballing brain, experience and good decision making. Im not sure he will ever have the qualities to get us over the line and we will be spluttering in the mid to lower reaches of the championship or worse for the foreseeable future. There are some good footballers in our squad and i am really convinced that a better manager would have drilled this team into a decent outfit......as opposed to what we saw today. He reached his pinnacle long ago, we went on a disastrous run halted by another half about run then repeat and repeat!!! We look a poor side, so fragile and immobile, styles changing week in week out.. Lee Johnson does not deserve any more time as BCFC manager!! It’s that simple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, Top Robin said: That step from mid table championship football to genuine promotion contenders requires a bit more than Lee has....a clever footballing brain, experience and good decision making. Im not sure he will ever have the qualities to get us over the line and we will be spluttering in the mid to lower reaches of the championship or worse for the foreseeable future. There are some good footballers in our squad and i am really convinced that a better manager would have drilled this team into a decent outfit......as opposed to what we saw today. Pretty much my thoughts at the moment. If we are to progress I think a change is needed (Moyes ? ... I'm not sure) but I think LJ has now found his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStandUp Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Mid-table Championship side at best under LJ I’m afraid. Mid table team at best when you sell your better players and don't replace them in afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, ForeverRes said: We created chances. We got in dangerous areas. You talk about recruitment, you sell a player like Bobby Reid. To replace him to the same standard it's 1. A lot of money (which we don't spend), 2. You're looking at players like Assombolonga, Tammy etc... why would they come to City? We're forced to gamble once again on an unknown quantity. Answer my original question, look at our squad, do you really think we're anything better than mid table. Ironically you mentioned set up, we changed system and look good today, dominated first half and large portions of second half. Hope he sticks to that or atleast play that extra man in midfield. We'll see! He’s spent over 40 million pounds - the claim from many was that we had upgraded (Were you one of the many who made those claims ?) Are the next batch of excuses already prepared ? As a apologist for every5hing , i suggest you get thinking of some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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