SStandUp Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Hang on a sec.... This wasn't a one off game where the quality wasn't there. The quality isn't there because the players Johnson have bought in are just not good enough. And to many of them are certainly not improving under his coaching This is HIS team. HIS players. HIS way of doing things Nothing changes. Players come ....player go. But no matter what ....we are still powder puff with absolutely no real quality At some point the buck has to stop with the manager Our financial philosophy means we sell big, buy cheap. Hard to progress. Flint, Pack, Reid, Bryan, Brownhill, O'dowda, Eliasson to name a few have all improved under Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStandUp Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: He’s spent over 40 million pounds - the claim from many was that we had upgraded (Were you one of the many who made those claims ?) Are the next batch of excuses already prepared ? Selling a 20+ goal scorer and replacing with a guy who has scored 3 in 84. No mate, I wasn't one of them. Yes spent £40m, but look at the net spend in those 3 years. Makes for different reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, ForeverRes said: Our financial philosophy means we sell big, buy cheap. Hard to progress. Flint, Pack, Reid, Bryan, Brownhill, O'dowda, Eliasson to name a few have all improved under Johnson. cheap priceless ..... Over £40 million 50 players (Lots Of money wasted) Cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: cheap priceless ..... Over £40 million 50 players (Lots Of money wasted) Cheap On a wind up. Don't bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, ForeverRes said: Selling a 20+ goal scorer and replacing with a guy who has scored 3 in 84. No mate, I wasn't one of them. Yes spent £40m, but look at the net spend in those 3 years. Makes for different reading. In essence the job seems too much for him We had a 2 million pound striker on bench today and a £6 million one occasionally breaking sweat on ot And a £1.7 million right back that I wouldn’t pay £100k. for...shall I go on So I don’t think lack of money spent is any valid excuse, insead Of desperately finding excuses for Johnson, try , just for once, at Looking how we’ve used that money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStandUp Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: cheap priceless ..... Over £40 million 50 players (Lots Of money wasted) Cheap Look at the net spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStandUp Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: In essence the job seems too much for him We had a 2 million pound striker on bench today and a £6 million one occasionally breaking sweat on ot And a £1.7 million right back that I wouldn’t pay £100k. for...shall I go on So I don’t think lack of money spent is any valid excuse, insead Of desperately finding excuses for Johnson, try , just for once, at Looking how we’ve used that money Hunt was good today! What are you on about? You talk like £2mill is a lot of money !! It's nothing.. most clubs will have a £2mill striker, many will have £10mill striker. Were average, and we are playing averagely... why are you acting in such disbelief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, bs22 red said: Our budget is lower end championship. But every one thinks we should be at the top end Don’t expect us to be at the top but would like us to have a clear game plan and a style of play that’s decent to watch not pass pass 1week then hoof ball the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, BilboBaggins05 said: I don’t think Johnson is the best manager In the Championship but vice verca I don’t think he’s the worst. He needs to sort out consistency, but generally our defence needs to be more adaptable. We can’t deal with changing it up for a change of pace and that’s not Johnson’s fault Who’s fault is it then he signed the players and we check the character and dna to make sure they fit into the group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 we are doing what we have done for a couple of seasons. good start then a very poor run. I hope Steve does not allow this to happen again. 5 games without a win . it looks like it could be he start of another poor run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, ForeverRes said: Hunt was good today! What are you on about? You talk like £2mill is a lot of money !! It's nothing.. most clubs will have a £2mill striker, many will have £10mill striker. Were average, and we are playing averagely... why are you acting in such disbelief? Hunt .......good wtf....seriously...wtf I literally lost count the number of times he gave the ball away , (Again) ran into trouble, was caught out of position , float crap crosses to their keeper, and the worst bit ....completely sick of him half heartedly joggingback when we lose the ball It was him losing the ball for about the fifth time in a row that started the problem for their second gift Abysmal Really abysmal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 35 minutes ago, glen humphries said: I wonder how how he got the job in the first place He was cheap option for Landsdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Agree bob he was average at best and that’s being kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 42 minutes ago, MelksRed said: 3 seasons ago Two or three seasons from now we’ll be in Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, ForeverRes said: Hunt was good today! What are you on about? You talk like £2mill is a lot of money !! It's nothing.. most clubs will have a £2mill striker, many will have £10mill striker. Were average, and we are playing averagely... why are you acting in such disbelief? Few Clubs in this division who’ve never spent 2 million on any player or even £1.7 million let alone on a L2 standard full back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 43 minutes ago, harvey54 said: Did nothing before he came here. Done nothing since he got here. He's a league 1 journeyman manager like his old man. Were stagnating with a team of very average players. SSDD He's had 3 clubs each being a progression, hardly the definition of a journeyman manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, swanker said: Two or three seasons from now we’ll be in Europe? Could be playing Cardiff or Swansea. So you may be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 The use of the word ‘pinnacle’ is bugging me far more than it should. I’d have gone for ‘peak’ No, by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 In all fairness we lost a lot of quality and replaced them with at best bang average players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilboBaggins05 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, glen humphries said: Who’s fault is it then he signed the players and we check the character and dna to make sure they fit into the group Kalas- injured kelly- class baker- bang average, shaky hunt - has his moments, generally inconsistent webster - decent dasilva - decent Out of the defenders we’ve signed , one is proving to Be difficult. BAker was signed last year to play with flint, and wasn’t expected to start this year. Not LJ’s fault that Watkins Injured Kalas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, David Brent said: The use of the word ‘pinnacle’ is bugging me far more than it should. I’d have gone for ‘peak’ No, by the way Have we reached Pete Johnson, sorry, Peak Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, BilboBaggins05 said: Kalas- injured kelly- class baker- bang average, shaky hunt - has his moments, generally inconsistent webster - decent dasilva - decent Out of the defenders we’ve signed , one is proving to Be difficult. BAker was signed last year to play with flint, and wasn’t expected to start this year. Not LJ’s fault that Watkins Injured Kalas. You forgot Bailey, bang average on good money, backer a mistake on legs on good money, hunt been poor so far again would be on good money, lj must be very unlucky or just can’t spot a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, glen humphries said: I wonder how how he got the job in the first place Care to explain the eggplant James? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 In many of our Championship games under Cotts we were statistically the better side, and how did that end up? Lee Johnson has had the backing, had the signings he wanted as best he could and he has had the time to make it work. IT HASNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Sturny said: Even if we finish 21st with LJ he won't be sacked. This baseless myth continues. It is a matter of record that LJ’s position was considered when we were at our lowest ebb in 16/17. They kept faith, and were proven right with a strong finish that season and an improved league position last year. If he were to finish 21st this year that would be a significant backward step set against stated expectations of further league position improvement, and he may well be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Sturny said: Even if we finish 21st with LJ he won't be sacked. At this rate, we'll be lucky to finish that high up the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: This baseless myth continues. It is a matter of record that LJ’s position was considered when we were at our lowest ebb in 16/17. They kept faith, and were proven right with a strong finish that season and an improved league position last year. If he were to finish 21st this year that would be a significant backward step set against stated expectations of further league position improvement, and he may well be fired. I doubt it. If you don't think LJ gets special treatment then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 hours ago, ForeverRes said: We created chances. We got in dangerous areas. You talk about recruitment, you sell a player like Bobby Reid. To replace him to the same standard it's 1. A lot of money (which we don't spend), 2. You're looking at players like Assombolonga, Tammy etc... why would they come to City? We're forced to gamble once again on an unknown quantity. Answer my original question, look at our squad, do you really think we're anything better than mid table. Ironically you mentioned set up, we changed system and look good today, dominated first half and large portions of second half. Hope he sticks to that or atleast play that extra man in midfield. We'll see! We apparently lost 18m last year- we had to sell, we had to restructure. I'm not expecting great things this year, however at the same time LJ needs to set us up better- no two ways about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 No Lee hasn't reached his pinnacle - he's clambered up and fallen off the other side. Can't see us reaching the heights of last year again under him personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire Dastardly Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 It's becoming clear to me, he's not getting any better. Today, he needs to learn lessons from. Or else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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