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Match Report: Famara Leaves His Mark on Birmingham (for real this time)


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Yes, a solid performance. Not many chances for us but the organisation was very good. Nice to see that we can fight and be a little nasty, i missed that. Still dont understand why Mäenpää always give the ball to one of our defenders. We play the ball in our own area, sometimes it get worried, and then we move the ball forward. Why not keep it simple, Mäenpää kicks the ball direct to our forwards. We are not Barcelona or Real Madrid, we are Bristol City. Very happy with our win and the team showed great spirit. We have lost Bryan and Bobby, think we have less creative since they left. The defence more solid than last season. We have the players that we have and Im thinking we are doing ok. January window is difficault to get some good player, thinking of last season. Esia, Watkins, Adelakunde, Taylor, Odowda, we have ok squad. This team will be better and better I hope and think. 20 games played and LJ knows what team he should start with. If we can move the ball faster and play more with speed than will we be good. COYR!!!

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Been saying for about a year now that Johnson needs to put an extra body in midfield. That man has recently been Paterson, who like you say is playing much deeper now. We look so much more solid a unit. That's when teams can play badly and win, because they're hard to score against. Keep a clean sheet and you will win games. We now have to work on the final third to really make the most of our possession. The reason we have always gone on bad losing runs is because we have always been too easy to score against under Johnson. He's finally doing something about that. Great post again Ole.

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1 hour ago, JonDolman said:

Been saying for about a year now that Johnson needs to put an extra body in midfield. That man has recently been Paterson, who like you say is playing much deeper now. We look so much more solid a unit. That's when teams can play badly and win, because they're hard to score against. Keep a clean sheet and you will win games. We now have to work on the final third to really make the most of our possession. The reason we have always gone on bad losing runs is because we have always been too easy to score against under Johnson. He's finally doing something about that. Great post again Ole.

I agree it's a real shame Walsh was injured just when he looked like he could be that extra creative midfield player.

This might have allowed us to pair Pato with Fam and give Weimann a much needed chance to regroup.

I'm starting to hate all the "Fam isn't good enough" brigade, not just on OTIB but where I sit as well - we need to find him a partner that gets the best from him - I'd start with Pato (he is the most like Reid from last year) for 3 games and see if they can develop something.

 

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40 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

Great write up as usual, Rob. How deep was Pack mind! Watched the game on tv and was impressed by how solid we looked, albeit we have away possession too much but battled to get the ball back. A huge 3pts. 3 more than I’d expected! 

....I really need to learn......

cos we're living in a world of (forum moaners) breaking us down.....

 

....and the moment that you wander far from me (this is Webster singing now), Marlon, I wanna feel you in my arms again.....

 

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13 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said:

....I really need to learn......

cos we're living in a world of (forum moaners) breaking us down.....

 

....and the moment that you wander far from me (this is Webster singing now), Marlon, I wanna feel you in my arms again.....

 

Genius

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16 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

I noticed against Millwall. Perhaps Kodjia is no longer his hero 

The way he vehemently celebrated his goal pointing at his head to the City fans, maybe he's picked up on all the social media "advice" that he needs to deliver more. Happy for him.

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21 minutes ago, Ian M said:

The way he vehemently celebrated his goal pointing at his head to the City fans, maybe he's picked up on all the social media "advice" that he needs to deliver more. Happy for him.

Think it was a bit more of a ‘ have that’ response but difficult to tell as spitgate would have been in the middle of it too

As for his relationship with the fans - It’s a cycle that could pick up quickly 

He clearly enjoys his moments and the personal adulation , and I hope that he realises that if he puts more in he will reap the rewards in the response from the fans

I fear he may dissapear off in the Not too distant 

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2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Think it was a bit more of a ‘ have that’ response but difficult to tell as spitgate would have been in the middle of it too

As for his relationship with the fans - It’s a cycle that could pick up quickly 

He clearly enjoys his moments and the personal adulation , and I hope that he realises that if he puts more in he will reap the rewards in the response from the fans

I fear he may dissapear off in the Not too distant 

I hope the last sentence isn't true as he can be a good player that we dont make the most of.

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I have to say that although I wouldn’t want to get carried away as it was hardly Guardiola’s Barcelona team, I thought yesterday was actually good. 

You wouldn’t exactly describe it was free flowing, but it’s the most I’ve enjoyed a City performance (with the exception of one half against Stoke I guess) in months.

There actually appeared to be some sort of plan and you could see how the team wanted to play. I’ve been highly critical of the standard of football all season, but compared to Birmingham who could do nothing else then knock it up to Jutkiewicz, I thought we tried to play some really good football.

Obviously we still barely created many chances and had to rely on set pieces for our goal and the only other shot on target, but I thought that was down to a lack of quality in the final third, rather than what at times this season has just been a complete lack of any sort of plan or idea.

I know other people will moan, certainly in homes games, about ‘only having one up front’, but I’m quietly positive about Johnson finally moving to a formation with  an extra man in midfield. I thought that change enabled Pack to have his best game for a long time. Still a fair way from his best from last season, but showed some real positive signs at times controlled the game. Obviously it helps he plays much deeper than others and it is his game to get on the ball, but I looked at the stats this morning and he completed 57 passes compared to the other three central midfielders on the pitch (Brownhill, Gardner and Kieftenbeld) who made 17, 22 and 15 respectively.

There’s still a long way to go before you could say we’re really playing good football, and our home form has been dire, but in my opinion it was the first performance in months, again with the exception of 45 minutes against Stoke, that had anything to be positive about. And that isn’t just because we nicked a win from a set piece as we’ve won games in that time where the performance has left me cold, and I was happy with how we were playing yesterday long before Diedhiou nicked the goal.

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8 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

I have to say that although I wouldn’t want to get carried away as it was hardly Guardiola’s Barcelona team, I thought yesterday was actually good. 

You wouldn’t exactly describe it was free flowing, but it’s the most I’ve enjoyed a City performance (with the exception of one half against Stoke I guess) in months.

There actually appeared to be some sort of plan and you could see how the team wanted to play. I’ve been highly critical of the standard of football all season, but compared to Birmingham who could do nothing else then knock it up to Jutkiewicz, I thought we tried to play some really good football.

Obviously we still barely created many chances and had to rely on set pieces for our goal and the only other shot on target, but I thought that was down to a lack of quality in the final third, rather than what at times this season has just been a complete lack of any sort of plan or idea.

I know other people will moan, certainly in homes games, about ‘only having one up front’, but I’m quietly positive about Johnson finally moving to a formation with  an extra man in midfield. I thought that change enabled Pack to have his best game for a long time. Still a fair way from his best from last season, but showed some real positive signs at times controlled the game. Obviously it helps he plays much deeper than others and it is his game to get on the ball, but I looked at the stats this morning and he completed 57 passes compared to the other three central midfielders on the pitch (Brownhill, Gardner and Kieftenbeld) who made 17, 22 and 15 respectively.

There’s still a long way to go before you could say we’re really playing good football, and our home form has been dire, but in my opinion it was the first performance in months, again with the exception of 45 minutes against Stoke, that had anything to be positive about. And that isn’t just because we nicked a win from a set piece as we’ve won games in that time where the performance has left me cold, and I was happy with how we were playing yesterday long before Diedhiou nicked the goal.

Interesting Bearded

I thought Pack has his best 45 mins second half for months against Millwall , a surge of confidence almost

And I thought that was pivotal for a short spell in the second half when we played two touch football , with angles and played through Millwall repeatedly for 10-15 mins 

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Thanks for another excellent report, I'd forgotten about last seasons spittiing kangaroo court.............so how appropriate for FD to bag the winner.  Interesting 8 for O'Dowda's sub appearance, we really do need to sort out his contract if possible?  Good to hear LJ actually give an honest and coherent match summation, in his video, for a change.  No more "found our identity” and ”busy little bee”  bulls✶✶t would be great, please Lee?

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4 hours ago, maxjak said:

Thanks for another excellent report, I'd forgotten about last seasons spittiing kangaroo court.............so how appropriate for FD to bag the winner.  Interesting 8 for O'Dowda's sub appearance, we really do need to sort out his contract if possible?  Good to hear LJ actually give an honest and coherent match summation, in his video, for a change.  No more "found our identity” and ”busy little bee”  bulls✶✶t would be great, please Lee?

COD injected some energy, closing down & made things happen

Agree LJ much improved interview post match, only one “you know what i mean”.

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4 hours ago, maxjak said:

Thanks for another excellent report, I'd forgotten about last seasons spittiing kangaroo court.............so how appropriate for FD to bag the winner.  Interesting 8 for O'Dowda's sub appearance, we really do need to sort out his contract if possible?  Good to hear LJ actually give an honest and coherent match summation, in his video, for a change.  No more "found our identity” and ”busy little bee”  bulls✶✶t would be great, please Lee?

LJ asked Famara pre match what would be the best way to get your own back after the spitting allegations and Fammmy simply said “score”....

What do you find so difficult about LJs post match interviews?  I think he's excellent, much better than previous managers we’ve had at City.

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5 hours ago, bearded_red said:

I have to say that although I wouldn’t want to get carried away as it was hardly Guardiola’s Barcelona team, I thought yesterday was actually good. 

You wouldn’t exactly describe it was free flowing, but it’s the most I’ve enjoyed a City performance (with the exception of one half against Stoke I guess) in months.

There actually appeared to be some sort of plan and you could see how the team wanted to play. I’ve been highly critical of the standard of football all season, but compared to Birmingham who could do nothing else then knock it up to Jutkiewicz, I thought we tried to play some really good football.

Obviously we still barely created many chances and had to rely on set pieces for our goal and the only other shot on target, but I thought that was down to a lack of quality in the final third, rather than what at times this season has just been a complete lack of any sort of plan or idea.

I know other people will moan, certainly in homes games, about ‘only having one up front’, but I’m quietly positive about Johnson finally moving to a formation with  an extra man in midfield. I thought that change enabled Pack to have his best game for a long time. Still a fair way from his best from last season, but showed some real positive signs at times controlled the game. Obviously it helps he plays much deeper than others and it is his game to get on the ball, but I looked at the stats this morning and he completed 57 passes compared to the other three central midfielders on the pitch (Brownhill, Gardner and Kieftenbeld) who made 17, 22 and 15 respectively.

There’s still a long way to go before you could say we’re really playing good football, and our home form has been dire, but in my opinion it was the first performance in months, again with the exception of 45 minutes against Stoke, that had anything to be positive about. And that isn’t just because we nicked a win from a set piece as we’ve won games in that time where the performance has left me cold, and I was happy with how we were playing yesterday long before Diedhiou nicked the goal.

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5 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Interesting Bearded

I thought Pack has his best 45 mins second half for months against Millwall , a surge of confidence almost

And I thought that was pivotal for a short spell in the second half when we played two touch football , with angles and played through Millwall repeatedly for 10-15 mins 

I was quite critical of Pack at half-time in the match day thread, although more critical of the tactic per se.  Pack played as the QB in a 4141 v Man City....that was him staying intentionally deep to snuff out the likes of Silva.  The impressive thing that night was that the team played as if they were tied together.  If the back 4 went deep, so did Pack, so did our Midfield 4 and so did Reid...keeping short distances between each other, so that they could nullify MC, but also play shirt passes to get us up the pitch, rather than launch it > lose it > retreat football.

Yesterday, we cut the ties.  I can accept Diedhiou being the most advanced, but too often Weimann and Eliasson we as advanced too.  There was one instant in the first half where either JP or JB broke throughthe centre circle, and Eliasson (who’d switched with AW by this point) never gave a good angle for the pass.  We eventually lost the ball.  Cue the cameraman sviveling to a angry LJ berating NE.

When Pato came short (more than Josh), we recycled the ball and moved it around quicker, but ultimately the angles and distances for Kalas and Webster to find white shirts was all wrong.  In these scenarios I feel Pack needs to not just sit and cover the advancing CB, but give something better than a square / slightly backwards angle, as we just lose momentum.  I appreciate he can’t bomb on, but he can join back into the play without leaving us exposed.

All in all, much better from Pack, but I still want more....it’s a kinda “coasting” performance, although I appreciate he worked hard without the ball.

I’ve likened him to Rennie in the past, certainly as the screen in front of the back four, but Brownhill needs to play more closely like Shelton did as his partner.  That will create more space for Pato too.

32 minutes ago, Robbored said:

LJ asked Famara pre match what would be the best way to get your own back after the spitting allegations and Fammmy simply said “score”....

What do you find so difficult about LJs post match interviews?  I think he's excellent, much better than previous managers we’ve had at City.

Yeah, no complaints with LJ’s interview in general, a bit gushing in one respect but mindful that we weren’t great in their half / final third.

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Great result that, not one I saw coming either!

Yes was interesting in that we controlled the ball particularly first half yet stood firm under pressure. Arguably rode our luck a bit but I'd have taken a point yesterday never mind 3!

Birmingham as a rule- tend to play on the break under Monk, even at home. Had they scored first, couldn't have seen us getting anything tbh but yeah very welcome result and a heartening performance too. Must have been particularly sweet for Diedhiou given the nonsense ban at the start of the season!

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Agree with BobBob that Pack return to (almost) best came in 2nd half v Millwall. 

I dont always agree with BobBob but fi d maxjax a joke to criticise Ljs interviews. Have you listened to any other manager you can name as giving fairer interviews. I bet the silence will be a clear answer, you must be one of the tiny minority who just don't want our manager to do well for our club?

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First half was as bad a Championship game you will see in any season. Both sides inept and devoid of any sign of footballing ability. City had a tactic of dropping Pack between both CB and launching long, misguided balls down the channels. Brum were just as bad. I was with the Brum fans, and it was grim . Horrible half.

Second half both came out with more purpose, but City had two outstanding performances from Kalas and Webster who were resolute and professional and ultimately made the difference. The midfield worked very hard, with Brownhill and Patterson, and then O'Dowda (why does he not start) really putting in a shift and doing a lot of the rough stuff well. A classic away performance. 

We created practically nothing (bar a sublime O'Dowda and Fama corner and goal), played no football. looked like a relegation threatened side, but worked very hard as you do in a relegation scrap. That is why we will not be relegated, but also why we will not threaten promotion. 

Horrible game, devoid of any footballing ability from either sides. A draw was probably a fair result, I would red card a player for a blatant dive like their lad did, but he was pulled back for the second penalty shout (though would never have made the through ball) . 

If that is the level of the wonderful championship then we can forget any dreams of playing in the Premiership. It looked like a poor L1 or L2 game between two poor sides. 

3 points great, amazing even at Brum where we have always struggled, but I still have no idea what  our mojo, dna, profile, plan or identity is. 

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Biily, don't be a hero! What a shocking interpretation of a hard-fought Championship footie. Do you read forums, or speak to fans of Cardiff, Burnley, Huddersfield, Newcastle and many more Higher club? They find this season a horrible standard except when they get stuffed 4-0 or 5-0 so you may need a dose of perspective. 

How did you rate our defeat at WBA if you were there? I'd be interested 

 

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Thanks Ole. As per usual working an away weekend. From what I saw from the highlights on Quest, we worked hard for this result and Diedhiou looked like he had had his revenge against Brum.

The only question I have is whether against Norwich we should start with O'Dowda in midfield with Brownhill, with Pack sat behind in front of the back four? I can't fathom how he can play so well in internationals but we can't work out how to fit him into the side. It also might help Weimann with more forward through balls than we usually manage. And given the choice between Pato & C'OD, I would much rather have the latter 9 times out of 10. Paterson is an LJ favourite but he rarely does anything great, plus I guarantee that at least once per game he will give the ball away in a dangerous position.

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