bissellredhead Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 More to the point what was the ref having issues with which delayed the start of the game?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalist Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 Remember Robin Hulbert getting a second yellow for exactly the same sort of pull back. I think that put Swindon down to 9 men and we still couldn't score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted December 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, bissellredhead said: More to the point what was the ref having issues with which delayed the start of the game?! He was live on Sky? Other than that, **** knows. A Christmas message to his missus via sign language? Who knows other than when he finally got going there was a great ironic cheer. football is so mad at times tosspot ref today in the long run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Yeh I see that, but for me, to send a player off, either straight red or two yellows, it’s got to be serious enough to justify the punishment, and I don’t think the guy today did enough to justify getting sent off. Don’t get me wrong it would have been great if he did, but if one of our players got two yellows for those soft fouls we would be moaning at the ref saying he was petty! That’s fickle football fans I guess! I'd quit when your behind if I was you, he committed at least two more yellow card offences after his first that warranted a yellow, but hey ho you are obviously in a very forgiving mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, dave36 said: First goal, hard to get the pause right, but the city players were catching up with the attacker 2nd goal Aaron’s was away before the ball was kicked That second one was the disallowed goal from the free kick, not the actual second goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, marcofisher said: That second one was the disallowed goal from the free kick, not the actual second goal. Yep, the ball came in from the opposite side for the second goal for a start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 If he was going to send him off it should have been for the foul on Pack (I think). The foul on Fam was never a booking and you can't give a booking for a non bookable offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 I and a couple more in S22 thought Pukki was offside in the build up to Norwich first goal. Very poor referee and lino also on the first goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Tettey should have been sent off because he committed at least 3 fouls that were either "professional" or reckless. The first on O'Dowda was a shocker, which earnt him the yellow card in the first half. The second on Pack was clearly a yellow, as he gave Watkins a card for the same offence after just 90 seconds on the pitch. And the last was the foul on Fam, which at first looked a bit soft, but in retrospect he chops at Diedhiou from behind miles away from the ball. Roger East bottled it big time & Norwich were relieved to sub Tettey after the foul on Diedhiou went unpunished. Considering Brownhill was sent off for 2 bookable offences at Elland Road, it's the lack of consistency between referees that is so frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said: To be fair I thought the ref was probably right to keep him on, it was a pretty soft foul, and although letter of the law might say it’s a yellow, to send the guy off, for me, would have been harsh. The games gone when stupid fouls like that get punished by yellows, although I appreciate this could have resulted in a win for us I'm sorry but the pull back was as blatant a foul as you will ever see. The ref should have given him the second yellow. One can argue all day long about mistimed tackles or pushes depending whether you have red glasses or canary yellow but that was a booking. Its baffling obvious decisions like that which drive fans up the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Norwich fans were saying he was lucky to be on the pitch still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, marcofisher said: That second one was the disallowed goal from the free kick, not the actual second goal. Whoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, marcofisher said: That second one was the disallowed goal from the free kick, not the actual second goal. Wrong photo, this is the right one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 There are fouls and "fouls". Let's face it in Tettey's case it wasn't clumsiness or bad timing: there was no attempt to play the ball. It was all about knocking over the guy in possession and breaking up a breakaway attack. The ref was inches away in each case. He should've walked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 I think the ref made an honest mistake. I believe he thought it was a collision but really the norwich player made a cynical foul and should have got a 2nd yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 41 minutes ago, dave36 said: Wrong photo, this is the right one It was onside. As was the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, dave36 said: Wrong photo, this is the right one Looks offside here but the cross came in a second or two later by which point he was onside. Sky clearly shown that during the coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Tettey tug Marlon Pack back, also remember a former Bristol City captain who when he went very hard always started to roll up his captain's armband as if to say refs don't normally book captains. The ref for the Norwich game was shown up as TBC and was never altered Yet the programme is printed Thursday night/Friday morning? and the refs name was on the programme I think Trevor East is the only ref that has not dished out a red card so far this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 8 hours ago, NOTBLUE said: As is persistent fouling. I know the refs often appear to indicate this, but I previously looked through the laws and couldn’t find it written down as an actual law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asfred Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 He should have been off. If the the three fouls after his yellow were not bookable offences themselves, the sum of all three dictates he should have had a yellow card for persistent fouling. The referee pointed this out to him after the first one, and when he pulled Pack back, he walked away expecting to be sent off and was visibly relieved when he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboy Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Definitely should have walked for the tug back where the ref choose to simply warn him. Not convinced the later foul on Fam deserved a yellow though. Both goals clearly onside. No issues there other than City allowing the Norwich guy to drift off the last defender to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 11 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Yeah, let's face it he really rode his luck. Josh went at Leeds for two yellows, so I think we were a tad unlucky today not to be playing 10 men for practically the whole 2nd half and in a home game. Maybe they wouldn't have equalised, who knows. About to post the same about Josh at Leeds. Two very run of the mill yellows, and I said at the time most refs would have just given him a lecture for the second. Personally, I'd rather we'd kept Josh on at Leeds (we were definitely heading for a point at that stage) than seen Tetty go yesterday. But it highlights the inconsistencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Not disagreeing about him bottling it. IMO he did....but....a very good decision by him to play advantage in our favour just a few seconds before our second goal, so as poor as he was on occasions, he did well there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 Even my Norwich mate said he should have gone, I get it's a soft way to lose a player but there were 2 or 3 City players tugged back in the first 20 minutes and no booking , yet Watkins got booked later on. Again inconsistent . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted December 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: Tettey tug Marlon Pack back, also remember a former Bristol City captain who when he went very hard always started to roll up his captain's armband as if to say refs don't normally book captains. The ref for the Norwich game was shown up as TBC and was never altered Yet the programme is printed Thursday night/Friday morning? and the refs name was on the programme I think Trevor East is the only ref that has not dished out a red card so far this season Roger East Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: Tettey tug Marlon Pack back, also remember a former Bristol City captain who when he went very hard always started to roll up his captain's armband as if to say refs don't normally book captains. The ref for the Norwich game was shown up as TBC and was never altered Yet the programme is printed Thursday night/Friday morning? and the refs name was on the programme I think Trevor East is the only ref that has not dished out a red card so far this season Seeing that Trevor East was in tandem with The Phantom Flan Flinger I suggest that he prefers to dish out something that splatters better upon impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 13 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: In the Prem, and quite possibly on another day in the Championship, Tettey walks But would we have won against 10 men? Debatable, but poor from Roger East IMO and does he really come from Wiltshire? A right old Johnny Nash here More questions than answers He certainly does come from Wiltshire. He has refereed a few games I have been managing in. He is a decent bloke but yesterday he completely bottled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sheene Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 14 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Fouls by pulling back an opponent ARE supposed to be auto yellows Absolutely correct the laws of the game now instruct when a Referee should caution a player not use common sense. The one thing I found hilarious was when he should of sent Tettey off but instantly cautioned a Norwich player for standing two inches in front of his sprayed line from the resulting free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, 1960maaan said: Even my Norwich mate said he should have gone, I get it's a soft way to lose a player but there were 2 or 3 City players tugged back in the first 20 minutes and no booking , yet Watkins got booked later on. Again inconsistent . So it was Watkins. Genuinely, thought it looked like it was, but couldn't believe that it could be. Tetty and others foul after foul with no cards, Watkins comes on, two minutes later first foul, and booked. And it didn't look that much different to others, although admittedly I was some way away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 42 minutes ago, italian dave said: So it was Watkins. Genuinely, thought it looked like it was, but couldn't believe that it could be. Tetty and others foul after foul with no cards, Watkins comes on, two minutes later first foul, and booked. And it didn't look that much different to others, although admittedly I was some way away. I've got no problem with Watkins getting a booking, it is usually a card for pulling someone back. Thing is, I'd guess there were 3 maybe 4 occasions that a Norwich player did similar and got away with it, I'd already said to the guy next to me, you know what's going to happen and sure enough booking for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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