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Red Army 75

Matty Taylor

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8 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said:

I find it quite disgusting Taylor can not get a run in the side while the likes of Paterson and Weizmann start week in week out and have been extremely poor for many many weeks. 

Yet we are 10 unbeaten not bad seeing that in your opinion we are playing with 9 men most weeks

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9 minutes ago, Red_Wizard said:

I find it quite disgusting Taylor can not get a run in the side while the likes of Paterson and Weizmann start week in week out and have been extremely poor for many many weeks. 

I agree with you RW but no-one can argue that City are a 10 game unbeaten with both Wiemann and Pato involved in every game.

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1 minute ago, Robbored said:

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I agree with you RW but no-one can argue that City are a 10 game unbeaten with both Wiemann and Pato involved in every game.

Yes but now we have 2 options, 2 options who actually changed the game, one did more than Paterson has done in the past 3 games and the other guy scored one and made one, when was the last time either of these 2 did that?

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2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Yes but now we have 2 options, 2 options who actually changed the game, one did more than Paterson has done in the past 3 games and the other guy scored one and made one, when was the last time either of these 2 did that?

Today will have hopefully helped LJ realise that EMB. 

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Been saying for a year or more that we just look so much more likely to score as a team when MT is in the side.

Baffles me how many can’t look beyond his own stats and ignore the wider point of how much better a side we look whether it’s Taylor doing the scoring or someone else as a result of his work. 

Taylor and Palmer have to start over Weimann and Pato for me in the next game. 

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Like what Taylor brings but seems to do it better off the bench. I am not one that says there needs to be 2 up top at home but I’d probably start Taylor with Fam next time we play a side that wants to sit back and defend deep. 

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Bloody love it when he plays a scorcher. Must be frustrating for him not getting the minutes he’d like but it was clear today he was out playing 100% for the whole team. 

City love Matty Taylor!

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43 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said:

He was terrific when he came on, he often is.  Not sure I have seen him have a terrific game when he has started,

I’ve called for him to start but don’t think he’s as effective as when he comes off the bench when playing against a tired defence. He’s got excellent movement and pulls defenders into positions they don’t want to be in. 

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11 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

10 whole games without defeat

Bristol City just can't be beat

Whoa -ooh-ooh- ooh-ooh !      :laugh:

Careful   :laugh:

 

33 minutes ago, Robbored said:

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I agree with you RW but no-one can argue that City are a 10 game unbeaten with both Wiemann and Pato involved in every game.

At the end of the day, if you're winning games and on a run  the manager is getting it RIGHT.

Well done LJ tonight (again) :clapping:

Will be more than happy to come back in May with my hands up if we are top 8

Looking at it now, only ours to ...

No, I have the faith

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To be honest, I couldn't give a toss who is in the team or not - as long as we keep this unbeaten run going for as long as possible and average two points a game.

Great to have some credible competition in the squad which keeps players on their toes.

 

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5 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Loved flicking onto the beeb website to see Matty on the scoresheet. He deserves a run surely?

It’s a tough one. Do you lose some of his potential impact if he starts? And do you change a winning starting 11? For the record I would give him a 5-10 game run

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47 minutes ago, Robbored said:

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I agree with you RW but no-one can argue that City are a 10 game unbeaten with both Wiemann and Pato involved in every game.

Exactly...Its a winning formula and Matt, as the rest of them, are professionals...For the record Weimann had a very good game and Patto was not that bad. The guys coming on were good...Happy Days all around! 

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6 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said:

It’s a tough one. Do you lose some of his potential impact if he starts? And do you change a winning starting 11? For the record I would give him a 5-10 game run

Fair point, but could we be winning some of these games comfortably before the need for substitutions if he were to be given a chance? We’re winning by scraping past teams, with a change up top we could be more potent perhaps?

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He's ten times the player off the bench he is in the starting XI.  I think he must come on having watched the game carefully with a very specific idea about where to find space.  Also helps the defence are tiring. 

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1 minute ago, Fordy62 said:

Fair point, but could we be winning some of these games comfortably before the need for substitutions if he were to be given a chance? We’re winning by scraping past teams, with a change up top we could be more potent perhaps?

I think it’s worth a try but momentum is everything. If he doesn’t get starts he should be getting 25-30 minutes if we need a change

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5 minutes ago, Nibor said:

He's ten times the player off the bench he is in the starting XI.  I think he must come on having watched the game carefully with a very specific idea about where to find space.  Also helps the defence are tiring. 

Spot on imo, by the time he comes on,the weakest link is exposed or the person most likely to get sent off by his niggling,love the bloke and the effect he is having coming on as super sub.brilliant game where him and jack hunt were at it a while back,more to a game than kicking a ball and mt very good at the other aspects which I suppose aren't really meant to happen

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Matty brings a breath of fresh air to us, fans love him, gives 105%, now according to LJ he's 100% fit.................SO PLAY HIM:city:

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1 hour ago, Robbored said:

Today will have hopefully helped LJ realise that EMB. 

I would have more faith in that statement but for his undying love for Paterson in the past 12 months.

But hey ho, can't help who you fall in love with.

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The top and bottom of it is, we look much more of a threat with Taylor on the pitch. 

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The reason he's always looked better off the bench is because he hasn't been fully fit for the best part of a year.

Now he is up to 100% we may see some better performances from him when playing from the start, if LJ chooses to do so. 

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1 hour ago, JoeAman08 said:

Like what Taylor brings but seems to do it better off the bench. I am not one that says there needs to be 2 up top at home but I’d probably start Taylor with Fam next time we play a side that wants to sit back and defend deep. 

Got to agree that he is better off the bench, no problem with that as he runs rings around tiring players and seems to urge our players on too. I just wish that if he is going to be used like this then it happens consistently and regularly. No good turning a game like today then being an unused sub for the next three or four, no matter if we are winning, drawing or losing.

Give him the super sub role, it will lift players and fans and put fear into the opposition. 

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It would be good to see how he can make an impact over 90 mins now he is fit but....

He could / should have scored a few seconds earlier than he did (even LJ said this)

The keeper should not be beaten at his post like that

But fair play he shot on target - very few others did

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He is much more effective coming off the bench because he can then find spaces and cause tired defences trouble like today. Don’t think from seeing him previous he should be a starter. Palmer and Eliasson however should be starting over Pato and Weimann, both offer what they do and more.

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1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said:

The reason he's always looked better off the bench is because he hasn't been fully fit for the best part of a year.

Now he is up to 100% we may see some better performances from him when playing from the start, if LJ chooses to do so. 

I’ll be surprised if he does unless he takes wiemanns place in a 433 . Really like the 🐍’s  intelligence and movement but I’ve also been wanting LJ to get rid of 442 because we get over run in midfield . How do you fit them all in whilst keeper the black door shut. 

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If he is now 100 percent fit I’d start him away at Forest. If their defence is cobbled together due to bans he could be just what is needed to get under their skin

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2 hours ago, Red_Wizard said:

I find it quite disgusting Taylor can not get a run in the side while the likes of Paterson and Weizmann start week in week out and have been extremely poor for many many weeks. 

 

1 hour ago, REDOXO said:

Exactly...Its a winning formula and Matt, as the rest of them, are professionals...For the record Weimann had a very good game and Patto was not that bad. The guys coming on were good...Happy Days all around! 

I thought Weimann had a very tidy game today.  His relationship with Hunt down the right side was looking good today, and I thought our stake spell before half-time happened when him and COD swapped over.  Both put some very good crosses in today, and Weimann so unlucky to hit the bar.

Today the subs are a strange one to judge.

Before we went 1-0 Down I suspect Palmer was coming on for Pato, and Taylor for Weimann, but play right.  The goal meant a tactical change and we went 4312.

Our recent unbeaten run has been formed on 4141/4411, and I don’t think we should be looking to move too far away from that on 30 minutes game time, certainly not away from home v Forest next Saturday.

it was a game that we dominated with 4141 and with better finishing we could’ve easily been 2-0 up before we went behind.  Bolton didn’t even have a spell until the final few minutes.

We have options in our squad...and we mustn’t flog Diedhiou either.  So Taylor will get starts.

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1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Been saying for a year or more that we just look so much more likely to score as a team when MT is in the side.

Baffles me how many can’t look beyond his own stats and ignore the wider point of how much better a side we look whether it’s Taylor doing the scoring or someone else as a result of his work. 

Taylor and Palmer have to start over Weimann and Pato for me in the next game. 

I agree with all but the last bit. LJ has a decision to make but let’s be honest we have found a formula and changing it is a needless gamble. 

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24 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

I agree with all but the last bit. LJ has a decision to make but let’s be honest we have found a formula and changing it is a needless gamble. 

We weren’t winning that game today until the changes. 

I know what you mean but what message does it send Palmer and Taylor if they don’t start? What more can you do to stake a claim than what they did today?

If you get the chance and take it with both hands it has to mean something. 

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1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said:

We weren’t winning that game today until the changes. 

I know what you mean but what message does it send Palmer and Taylor if they don’t start? What more can you do to stake a claim than what they did today?

If you get the chance and take it with both hands it has to mean something. 

If you take out Kelly’s mistake, we were still creating chances, and I think we would’ve got one. But having gone 1-0 down we needed two!!  We got them thanks to MT and KP.  I would’ve liked to see us push for a third when breaking.

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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

If you take out Kelly’s mistake, we were still creating chances, and I think we would’ve got one. But having gone 1-0 down we needed two!!  We got them thanks to MT and KP.  I would’ve liked to see us push for a third when breaking.

Absolutely.

City created plenty of opportunities to score and how Famara missed from two yards out......:facepalm:  and on another day he could have bagged a hatrick

City were far and away the better team, as you’d expect given the Championship league positions between Bolton and City.

A 2-1 loss flattered Bolton imv.

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7 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

We weren’t winning that game today until the changes. 

I know what you mean but what message does it send Palmer and Taylor if they don’t start? What more can you do to stake a claim than what they did today?

If you get the chance and take it with both hands it has to mean something. 

Of course this is the dilemma.but we have had the same dilemma for a long time with Taylor. He come on, the tempo increases we get free kicks and chances and he is on the bench next game. Palmer has had thirty minutes of football.

I don’t disagree but we should have been out of sight by half time. Diehdouh is going to get a hatful ageist someone soon. We will  see soon but i will bet Taylor is on the bench next week

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Have to say I think he's the only one we have that can come off the bench and lift the crowd, and that's important. Atmosphere changes today as soon as he came on in that Greg Goodridge type of way. You expect something to happen. Can't think of anyone else that we've got currently that can do that.

Having said that in another thread there's some stats about Vardy's slow start in the Championship, and personally I think Taylor will score for fun given a run and the backing of the manager, Most intelligent footballer at the club.

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