pride of the west Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Clear stamp. His right leg (the stamping leg) should have naturally been 2 feet further forward. Dirty player. In the friendly in the summer he was being a *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfctim Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, chinapig said: All that's missing is to say 'he's not that kind of player '. The Shawcross Redemption. Mings has previous so at the very least this needs close attention from the authorities. It's indicative of the odd ethical code of the game that spitting or 'spying ' causes far more outrage than violence. If it was deliberate it would be about the worst thing you could do on a football field and sure ban him, lock him up throw away the key, no problem. I just don't think it was. Amount of people saying "he had time to avoid him"....slow it down that much he had time to do a double somersault, ask him what the ground's like down there, wish him luck for the rest of the game and be on his merry way. Doesn't give an accurate sense of what time he had or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 I’m sure many of us have played amateur football at varying levels. I can’t remember ever accidentally (or intentionally I’ll add!) stamping on an opponent, let alone on their face. I’d say 99% of the time it’s avoidable, though that’s not to say this isn’t the 1% accident. Problem with him having previous doesn’t look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 100% meant it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 I would say there is a 20% chance this is an accident, it doesn't look natural and I seems to me that his foot should be much further forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 14 hours ago, bcfctim said: It's horrific but I really don't think it's deliberate. Ultra slow-motion makes things look terrible but you think that's over the course of what, a fraction of a second? He's off-balance, his foot comes down instinctively trying to regain it (stand up and go as if to fall forwards, see what happens) and it's hideous but totally accidental imo. He stamps his foot down, there is absolutely no need for him to do that, not accidental in any way shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastonburyRed Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 The fact that he has done it before tells you all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 16 hours ago, bcfctim said: Have you ever tripped over and your head not immediately looked downwards? Frame by frame makes it seem like he could've avoided it but it's a matter of milliseconds. The more I see it the more I think it's clearly not intentional. Guess I'm in the minority. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 There's no way that's accidental. You might clip someone accidentally as you pull your foot away but you don't land on them with full force without intent. It's the second time, should be a ten match ban this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Nibor said: There's no way that's accidental. You might clip someone accidentally as you pull your foot away but you don't land on them with full force without intent. It's the second time, should be a ten match ban this time. I think he got a 5 game ban last time which obviously hasn't deterred him from assaulting players. I agree, at least a 10 game ban or hopefully banned for the rest of the season. Bloke is dangerous. (whilst spitting at an opponent is disgusting and results in a 6 match ban, this is infinitely worse and should command a much harsher penalty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Definitely deliberate for me. Dirty ***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Looking at their forum virtually all Villa fans saying accidental strange....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 when would he likely be charged by the FA? Would it have already been done by now if it were going to be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 16 hours ago, Up The City! said: Nah he clearly kept his foot in there. You would trip yourself over to avoid stamping on someone's head but Ming's didn't do that and then he just jogged off? Exactly this!! He would have fallen over on his belly. Could have done way more to avoid planting his foot on his face. With his previous, the FA have to handout a ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Just seen this for the first time and wow! How anyone could try to defend that or say it’s accidental must be mad! Firstly his natural momentum would have taken him past Olivera’s head completely. Secondly, not only does he stop the momentum but gives it an extra authoritative stamp on the way down. Thirdly, he is looking at what he is doing at at all times. This isn’t even taking into his account previous record with Zlatan! Vile and disgusting. Anything short of a 10 game ban and he has gotten off lightly. As others have said, he literally could have taken Olivera’s eye out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 13 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: I think it depends what you call deliberate. I don’t think there would have been enough time for him to make a conscious decision to stamp on the guy’s face but I agree with @Up The City! that most people would instinctively pull their foot away, even if they threw themselves off balance doing so. Always hard to tell from slowed down footage as it can give you the impression players have more time than they do but, on first glance, it does look pretty bad that Mings did not do that. I'm not quite sure it was deliberate, but he took no avoiding actions and to me that warrants it being considered a deliberate offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: Just seen this for the first time and wow! How anyone could try to defend that or say it’s accidental must be mad! Firstly his natural momentum would have taken him past Olivera’s head completely. Secondly, not only does he stop the momentum but gives it an extra authoritative stamp on the way down. Thirdly, he is looking at what he is doing at at all times. This isn’t even taking into his account previous record with Zlatan! Vile and disgusting. Anything short of a 10 game ban and he has gotten off lightly. As others have said, he literally could have taken Olivera’s eye out! I wonder if Nelson Oliviera might even consider legal action. Hard to prove i suppose, but **** me. What a bastard thing to do to a fellow pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, AppyDAZE said: I wonder if Nelson Oliviera might even consider legal action. Hard to prove, i suppose but **** me. What a bastard thing to do to a fellow pro. It would be difficult to prove 100% regardless of how obvious it looks. Legal action would also set a precedent on the football pitch I believe. Pretty sure if there was any chance of this Villa would pay what was needed to sweep it under the carpet and accept any punishment handed out to Mings by the FA. Has legal action ever been taken before for an incident that happened during play? Remember Stephen Hunt’s challenge on Peter Cech leaving him with the fractured skull. Don’t think anything ever came of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: It would be difficult to prove 100% regardless of how obvious it looks. Legal action would also set a precedent on the football pitch I believe. Pretty sure if there was any chance of this Villa would pay what was needed to sweep it under the carpet and accept any punishment handed out to Mings by the FA. Has legal action ever been taken before for an incident that happened during play? Remember Stephen Hunt’s challenge on Peter Cech leaving him with the fractured skull. Don’t think anything ever came of that? Agreed. But I reckon this Mings guy needs to be taken aside and spoken to by those close to him and have it told to him plain. This cannot continue, fella it really cannot. BTW anyone know if he has had the balls to go and see Nelson in person or indeed plans to. I think he should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd73 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 4 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Looking at their forum virtually all Villa fans saying accidental strange....... And if a Reading defender had a similar encounter with Tammy they'd all be screaming blue murder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 IMO, if it was accidental he'd have checked if Oliveira was ok. He'd have known from when he was looking down and from the contact he felt on his foot when it landed that he's hit a part of Oliveira, from what he'd have seen he'd probably have been able to guess it was the head. Middle of the match or not, if I think I've trod on someone's head I'm going to check if they're alright as there could potentially be serious consequences for them injury wise. So think he's done it intentionally. Don't think he's necessarily trying to seriously injure people. But either enough to get them off their game or need to go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I'm not quite sure it was deliberate, but he took no avoiding actions and to me that warrants it being considered a deliberate offence. Pretty much what I was trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 23 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Totally agree mate Strange because off the pitch Mings is apparently a lovely generous lad Hmm I’ve seen 2 sides to him. He does a lot for fans etc and is very popular on Twitter, but had a silly run in with him on a night out in bath because we were in “his” part of the club. Definitely likes to flash the cash and be seen. id like to think he wouldn’t intentionally hurt someone like that but it’s twice now, doesn’t look good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 47 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I'm not quite sure it was deliberate, but he took no avoiding actions and to me that warrants it being considered a deliberate offence. Does the unnatural aggressive stamp not confirm how deliberate it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourne End Red Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 He will get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Absolutely shocking - hope he gets a long ban! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Fordy62 said: when would he likely be charged by the FA? Would it have already been done by now if it were going to be done? I think they review most stuff on Monday after to cover games Sat and Sun. I think it’ll be difficult to prove 100% it was intentional so he might get away with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 See if that was Fammy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 59 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: IMO, if it was accidental he'd have checked if Oliveira was ok. He'd have known from when he was looking down and from the contact he felt on his foot when it landed that he's hit a part of Oliveira, from what he'd have seen he'd probably have been able to guess it was the head. Middle of the match or not, if I think I've trod on someone's head I'm going to check if they're alright as there could potentially be serious consequences for them injury wise. So think he's done it intentionally. Don't think he's necessarily trying to seriously injure people. But either enough to get them off their game or need to go off. I’ve seen it once, in full speed and his reaction looked “guilty”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 22 hours ago, ColeCiderRed said: In any other walk of life a possible GBH charge!! Not seen the moving footage but these injuries are quite significant. With all due respect....you can’t really call for a ‘GBH charge’ without viewing any of the footage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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