Admin phantom Posted May 29, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Not one of anyone's high points that would have been at this game, still amazes me the game got played on the night, the TV footage was very indicative of what happened But the bottom line is nobody should go to a football match and not come back alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 29, 2019 Author Admin Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 In Memoria e Amicizia, in Memory and Friendship Rocco Acerra Bruno Balli Alfons Bos Giancarlo Bruschera Andrea Casula Giovanni Casula Nino Cerullo Willy Chielens Giuseppina Conti Dirk Daenecky Dionisio Fabbro Jacques François Eugenio Gagliano Francesco Galli Giancarlo Gonnelli Alberto Guarini Giovacchino Landini Roberto Lorentini Barbara Lusci Franco Martelli Loris Messore Gianni Mastrolaco Sergio Bastino Mazzino Luciano Rocco Papaluca Luigi Pidone Benito Pistolato Patrick Radcliffe Domenico Ragazzi Antonio Ragnanese Claude Robert Mario Ronchi Domenico Russo Tarcisio Salvi Gianfranco Sarto Giuseppe Spalaore Mario Spanu Tarcisio Venturin Jean Michel Walla Claudio Zavaroni Rest In Peace - You'll Never Walk Alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 cant understand why theres 3 sadface emojis...…..usual suspects though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 50 minutes ago, archie andrews said: cant understand why theres 3 sadface emojis I imagine they are literally sad about Heysel rather than calling the poster sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, Red7 said: I imagine they are literally sad about Heysel rather than calling the poster sad. lets hope so R7.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Terrible tragedy. I remember watching it on TV that evening as a child (I was about 11). As @phantom has already said, it’s difficult to believe that the game went ahead. RIP to all those that died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 It was awful, I watched it all unfold on tv and felt dreadful .... a guy from Brislington was amongst the Liverpool fans jailed after that incident I believe ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 4 hours ago, archie andrews said: cant understand why theres 3 sadface emojis...…..usual suspects though 39 people lost their lives and you don’t think sad is appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 4 hours ago, archie andrews said: cant understand why theres 3 sadface emojis...…..usual suspects though Weird comment - why shouldn’t people be ‘sad’ about a tragedy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 Recall crossing Blackheath in the back of a black cab post entertaining clients when I quickly sobered up upon hearing the midnight news. Appreciate this won't be popular with some of you but detest the self-righteous attitude of Liverpool fans on social media today with flags of 'solidarity and friendship' (sic) without one single acknowledgement of the tragedy (defined as causing suffering,) they themselves occasioned. Sorrow seems to be the hardest word? Yes the stadium may have been dilapidated and unfit for purpose, but had they not sought to cause trouble in chasing Juve across the terrace 39 fans would not have died. I've never once seen them apologise for their behaviour, never once acknowledge they were the catalyst in being responsible for the deaths. That the same later befell their own supporters, those who arrived early, in plenty of time and armed with tickets is equally of utter regret. That to this day they refuse to acknowledge the tasteless chants of rival fans are based in an element of reality rather than that desired by the deflective psyche to me at least shows a faux regard to the tragedy of lives lost. Never again? Until those responsible acknowledge as such I fear that's a moot wish, as the recent scenes from Rome demonstrated (though of course apologies these days come thick and fast when miscreants are caught on camera and uploaded to social media sites.) When not? I asked the cabbie what the score was and what had happened? "Liverpool fans causing havoc again," I believe was his response. In several years following England abroad I discovered what he meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 8 hours ago, BTRFTG said: Appreciate this won't be popular with some of you but detest the self-righteous attitude of Liverpool fans on social media today with flags of 'solidarity and friendship' (sic) without one single acknowledgement of the tragedy (defined as causing suffering,) they themselves occasioned. Sorrow seems to be the hardest word? Yes the stadium may have been dilapidated and unfit for purpose, but had they not sought to cause trouble in chasing Juve across the terrace 39 fans would not have died. I've never once seen them apologise for their behaviour, never once acknowledge they were the catalyst in being responsible for the deaths. I disagree with the "self-righteous" criticism. Should a majority of Liverpool fans, who are good football fans just as at any other club, be apologising for the behaviour of a minority? Personally, I wouldn't feel the need to apologise for any of the fuckwitted actions of Bristol City fans down the years. I imagine that most Liverpool fans are as disgusted by Heysel now as they were back then. Have fans of other clubs never chased fans across a terrace, across a park, down a street or whatever? This particular brainless act resulted in a tragedy. And those that caused it through their stupidity deserve our condemnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Red7 said: And those that caused it through their stupidity deserve our condemnation. Correct good Sir. My point being from Liverpool quarters I've never, ever seen that recognised. Condemnation they collectively heaped on UEFA and the Belgian authorities, to their own thugs, nothing, even when 14 of their own were convicted of manslaughter. The names of the dead are rightly remembered, the names of those responsible? Like the later Duckenfield , Roosens and the names of the two convicted policemen trip off the tongue when Heysel gets mentioned in any Merseyside bar. 'Concrete Cancer' the killer. They continue to perpetuate the myth that ALL Scousers are loveable comedians, that the world's against them for no good reason. Aligning themselves as 'victims in sympathy' - well we'll have to disagree as to whether that's self-righteous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 15 hours ago, archie andrews said: cant understand why theres 3 sadface emojis...…..usual suspects though What's that supposed to mean? Usual suspects? I think the whole Heysel situation is really sad… is that so hard to comprehend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 30, 2019 Author Admin Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 16 hours ago, archie andrews said: cant understand why theres 3 sadface emojis...…..usual suspects though I believe they were meant as sad faces, as in it was a sad thing that happened, not that the post was sad Well that is the way I interpreted it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nongazeuse Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 The appalling actions of the Liverpool fans that day tarnished the whole of English football (and indeed the reputation of the country as a whole) for more than a decade. It made normal fans like most of us feel ashamed to admit that we were football supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 6 hours ago, phantom said: I believe they were meant as sad faces, as in it was a sad thing that happened, not that the post was sad Well that is the way I interpreted it anyway Isn't that what that emoji always means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 7 hours ago, BTRFTG said: Correct good Sir. My point being from Liverpool quarters I've never, ever seen that recognised. Condemnation they collectively heaped on UEFA and the Belgian authorities, to their own thugs, nothing, even when 14 of their own were convicted of manslaughter. The names of the dead are rightly remembered, the names of those responsible? Like the later Duckenfield , Roosens and the names of the two convicted policemen trip off the tongue when Heysel gets mentioned in any Merseyside bar. 'Concrete Cancer' the killer. They continue to perpetuate the myth that ALL Scousers are loveable comedians, that the world's against them for no good reason. Aligning themselves as 'victims in sympathy' - well we'll have to disagree as to whether that's self-righteous. Maybe not in the media @BTR-FTG But, having lived on Merseyside for about 25 years, I would say that the overwhelming majority of Liverpool fans regard Heysel as a tragedy and accept that a minority of their fans were brainless and culpable. I accept that this is not widely reported however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 7 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: What's that supposed to mean? Usual suspects? I think the whole Heysel situation is really sad… is that so hard to comprehend? 19 hours ago, East End Old Boy said: 39 people lost their lives and you don’t think sad is appropriate? of course its a sad thing...…...it just looked to me like certain people finding it all sad in a different way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Southport Red said: Maybe not in the media @BTR-FTG But, having lived on Merseyside for about 25 years, I would say that the overwhelming majority of Liverpool fans regard Heysel as a tragedy and accept that a minority of their fans were brainless and culpable. I accept that this is not widely reported however. Workwise I've spent more than enough nights these past two decades in both Liverpool and your seaside locale, (assuming Southport is where you live) and I'm afraid I don't agree (in Southport there's more talk of golf than footy in the pubs I frequent.) I've been involved in many a scheme to attempt to move folks from Liverpool to Southport and local opinion has vociferously been that ne'er the twain shall meet. Might as well be in different continents. In Liverpool there's clear alignment on the 'victim' front - Juve suffered as did 'we'. Never Juve suffered because of 'Us'. Interesting that outside Liverpool the impression given of Evertonians is they're less 'problematic', though the Old Kent Road last year showed that to be utter tosh. All said the Ship and Mitre remains my favourite inner city boozer, provided one doesn't talk footy ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 11 hours ago, Nongazeuse said: The appalling actions of the Liverpool fans that day tarnished the whole of English football (and indeed the reputation of the country as a whole) for more than a decade. It made normal fans like most of us feel ashamed to admit that we were football supporters. I think at that time it was allready TARNISHED tbf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Everton have always had a large firm known for trouble, i think there's a large % of football fans who forget this. I wonder if people remember the cup games at AG v Everton, very lively affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 It’s too simplistic to just blame the fans as other elements also played a part that night. Such as the final being held in a stadium that was in no fit state such an event or ticketing that bordered on the naive. One things for sure UEFA were very very quick to wash their hands of any accountability, something they have continued to do successfully ever since. Heysel should never have happened and some paid the ultimate price for when hooliganism combined with incompetence and greed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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