Lanterne Rouge Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, AshtonGreat said: I did wonder if he fancied the nightlife here - there isn't a lot in Monte Carlo! You`d need to be something like a young fit footballer well on the way to becoming a millionaire before you`re twenty to fully enjoy it though. Oh wait...………………………….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyhutchscurlymullet Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 50 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: I went to Disney World in 2003 and we broke down on the It’s a Small World ride, and that tune was on repeat for 30 minutes whilst they fixed the ride, I was loosing my sh*t by the end! All those things, don’t worry it’s just a bit of fun! I was last on that ride 15 years ago, and that damned song is still in my head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoxton casual Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, spudski said: How exciting...scout reports liken him to Luka Modric The Cisse position all makes sense now. Bringing in a young French defensive midfielder. Guess we've been looking at this for a while...or Cisse's knowledge/contacts prompted us in that direction. Either way it looks an exciting prospect to watch and a very bold move. A young Korey Smith or Brownhill. Can he shoot? Does he get into the box. Are we the new Barcelona? Buzzing bees who rotate and make teams dizzy? Fascinating how all this midfield talent will be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, JonDolman said: Des Taylor the chief scout seemed to be more in control of foreign recruitment. Seemed like he got the blame when they sacked him. This kid is completely different. Monaco want to keep him, and he has been playing for them at 17. Now just turned 18. He's played champs league. Engvall wasn't even scoring at Swedish level. So seemed like a strange one. From memory he’d scored something like 16 from the equivalent of 40-odd (90 min) games when he joined us. 59 minutes ago, City Ben said: I'm still trying to work this one out. Here's an idea. On the basis that loan rules have changed, and there is a limit to the number of loans a club like Chelsea can have out at any one time, the days of Prem clubs "stock piling" youth players such as Massengo are probably behind us. For Chelsea to secure that pipeline of talent will require another approach. I wonder if Chelsea wanted to buy this kid, but realised that they can't at present (for the reasons above, plus their transfer ban). We have therefore reached an agreement with them that we'll buy him, and if he does well for us we'll sell him on up the chain to them. We are kind of caretaker owners of the lad for a couple of years. They could be paying for an option for first refusal, for example - a couple of million now, which could be subtracted from the price if they do buy him in future. I think something along those lines would be quite a smart deal for all concerned. Sure that would be illegal....but I like it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: It’s says he’s had offers from all around Europe. But it was the opportunity to have a Clarke’s pie that swayed his decision Lets just hope Cardiff ain’t in for him as well then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Easy chant there to 2 unlimited for him Noah Noah No, no, Noah Noah Han massengo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneybcfc Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, City Ben said: I'm still trying to work this one out. Here's an idea. On the basis that loan rules have changed, and there is a limit to the number of loans a club like Chelsea can have out at any one time, the days of Prem clubs "stock piling" youth players such as Massengo are probably behind us. For Chelsea to secure that pipeline of talent will require another approach. I wonder if Chelsea wanted to buy this kid, but realised that they can't at present (for the reasons above, plus their transfer ban). We have therefore reached an agreement with them that we'll buy him, and if he does well for us we'll sell him on up the chain to them. We are kind of caretaker owners of the lad for a couple of years. They could be paying for an option for first refusal, for example - a couple of million now, which could be subtracted from the price if they do buy him in future. I think something along those lines would be quite a smart deal for all concerned. Surely that would come under something like 3rd party ownership? I hope its not the case as it sounds a very dodgy thing to set up a commercial arrangement for and could get us into a lot of trouble. Even a gentleman's agreement between SL and RA on future sales would be iffy to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Jasper Testimitanu said: “Completely ridiculous” ”His father has badly advised him” ”The manager is making a huge mistake” ”His value with one season is closer to 30 million” “Young players now looking at Mbappe and wanting it all now, if they don’t get it their parents take them elsewhere” A lot of french criticism of Bristol asking who we are? And how we’ve done this? They're not happy! Let's hope his Dad doesn't bump into Zach Clough's Dad before he puts pen to paper. Does "Bristol putain" mean Bristol sluts? As my google translate suggests. Not very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, Jasper Testimitanu said: He looks like a modern Gerry Gow!! Ees ear ees zere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, hail gus cesaer said: Lets just hope Cardiff ain’t in for him as well then!! Very good knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Only at Ashton Gate. Exciting but seems very high risk and a hefty chunk of our transfer fund Really hope money is left for a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Seems like he can play anywhere in midfield including defensive midfield. Maybe he's going to play a Korey Smith role in front of the back four and bring the ball out like Webster did last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, italian dave said: Let's hope his Dad doesn't bump into Zach Clough's Dad before he puts pen to paper. Does "Bristol putain" mean Bristol sluts? As my google translate suggests. Not very nice! ‘ Putain ‘ means ‘ prostitue ‘ but French people use the word like we would say ‘ bugger ‘ for example . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man in the middle Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, City Ben said: I'm still trying to work this one out. Here's an idea. On the basis that loan rules have changed, and there is a limit to the number of loans a club like Chelsea can have out at any one time, the days of Prem clubs "stock piling" youth players such as Massengo are probably behind us. For Chelsea to secure that pipeline of talent will require another approach. I wonder if Chelsea wanted to buy this kid, but realised that they can't at present (for the reasons above, plus their transfer ban). We have therefore reached an agreement with them that we'll buy him, and if he does well for us we'll sell him on up the chain to them. We are kind of caretaker owners of the lad for a couple of years. They could be paying for an option for first refusal, for example - a couple of million now, which could be subtracted from the price if they do buy him in future. I think something along those lines would be quite a smart deal for all concerned. We are a Chelsea feeder Club, I like your logic. The scenario could be we’ve payed £0 for Kalas to Chelsea so far but spent it on the new kid in agreement we develop him for them and he moves on when the transfer ban is lifted. I love conspiracies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: Only at Ashton Gate. Exciting but seems very high risk and a hefty chunk of our transfer fund Really hope money is left for a striker. And a new CB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: ‘ Putain ‘ means ‘ prostitue ‘ but French people use the word like we would say ‘ bugger ‘ for example . You mean like "Brighton buggers" for enticing Webster away......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, asfred said: It is a good suggestion but does that not sail pretty close to the 3rd party ownership route...something the FA really do not like. Well selling your ground to yourself wasn’t something that the FA approved off last year was it ? With the Bolton/Bury scenarios it would appear that the FA/Football League are making it up as they go along. Financially football is in difficult times (for those not in the Premier League) and new opportunities are opening up. Anyway under the counter deals are nothing new. The exchanging of brown paper bags is all digital now. Nothing has to be official. For instance Chelsea say we will ship you out some of are best surplus talent at a ‘special discount’ and you can use the saving to pay for little Messi (Massengo). Then you can use your Chelsea loyalty card points to shop around Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 The only worry with an 18 year old French wonder kid coming to our City is that he is in his prime and there are quite a few cougars who inhabit this forum (naming no names) who have a thing for Bristol City players and will target this lad. I appeal to these women now. For the sake of Bristol City keep your lustful desires in check. If it helps, several of us fellas on here will volunteer to assist if it gets too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Crackers Corner said: Easy chant there to 2 unlimited for him Noah Noah No, no, Noah Noah Han massengo Not as easy as you think. Massengo has 3 syllables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Johnny Musicworks said: This is the sort of ‘one for the future’ signing that Chelsea or Man City would make not Bristol City. Could we be the new way for say a Chelsea (unable to buy) to stack up young talent. They fund it and get a future option once we have developed the talent. We seem to be doing a good job developing their young players recently. It’s a strange move for us albeit exciting. You’re not the first person to suggest this. We’ve come a long way transfer wise in the last two years but this kid looks different gravy. Why would you leave playing champions league football to come to the championship. Very exciting prospect of him coming here, but with our links to Chelsea and their embargo , this actually makes sense. It could also be a load of bollocks and he genuinely wants to come here after hearing we got cheddar valley on tap in the concourse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 I sincerely hope we are not involved in any dodgy shenanigans with Chelsea. The FA will deal harshly with all involved. City would get demoted by at least two divisions and Chelsea would get a massive fine of £50,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: ‘ Putain ‘ means ‘ prostitue ‘ but French people use the word like we would say ‘ bugger ‘ for example . Those darling little Monaco fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyna Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Sydneybcfc said: Surely that would come under something like 3rd party ownership? I hope its not the case as it sounds a very dodgy thing to set up a commercial arrangement for and could get us into a lot of trouble. Even a gentleman's agreement between SL and RA on future sales would be iffy to say the least. Maybe we will see a loan from Chelsea next week, with no loan fee and Chelsea still paying the wages. This will ensure we still have money for a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sydneybcfc said: Surely that would come under something like 3rd party ownership? I hope its not the case as it sounds a very dodgy thing to set up a commercial arrangement for and could get us into a lot of trouble. Even a gentleman's agreement between SL and RA on future sales would be iffy to say the least. Isn’t there a gentleman’s agreement between Steve and Wally? I think the Chelsea theory holds a lot of water. Clearly, we have a very good relationship with them. The most likely thing here is that they’ve nudged us in this kids direction (and anyone Chelsea related - Fabregas? has put in a word for us) and there will be a release clause in the contract allowing him to talk to a top six club if they come in - and to be fair, that’s not an uncommon clause and is certainly not illegal. You could argue in this scenario Chelsea have an advantage as they know of the clause but it’d be common knowledge in the game anyway. I’m not seeing illegality here. But I can buy into the theory that Chelsea want to see how young players do in English football before they take a punt and are happy to alert us to candidates and put words in for us. Nothing wrong with that in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Mike Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: You’re not the first person to suggest this. We’ve come a long way transfer wise in the last two years but this kid looks different gravy. Why would you leave playing champions league football to come to the championship. Very exciting prospect of him coming here, but with our links to Chelsea and their embargo , this actually makes sense. It could also be a load of bollocks and he genuinely wants to come here after hearing we got cheddar valley on tap in the concourse Monaco won’t be playing champions league as they finished 17 th last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghornred Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/bristol-city-monaco-massengo-transfer-3171826 Not sure about 8 million I think that we should only be spending that much on established players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citywest30 Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Wow sounds exciting. Don't want to p on the fire but sounds a little bit like Swansea signing that superkid when they were in the premier - Renato Sanches? No guarantee he'll cut it in what will be a very different league and style of football he is used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Not as easy as you think. Massengo has 3 syllables. "There no limit" has 4 "Han massengo" has 4 too Easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, handsofclay said: I sincerely hope we are not involved in any dodgy shenanigans with Chelsea. The FA will deal harshly with all involved. City would get demoted by at least two divisions and Chelsea would get a massive fine of £50,000. There’s no chance we would be making any underhand deals . It’ll all be above board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 You should head to the transfer section.......7 pages and counting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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