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Nogbad the Bad

LJ says City will not kick the ball out for trivial injuries

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1 minute ago, Rinkadink said:

Hes right; if there's a serious injury the ref will stop the game. Play to the whistle.

I hope other clubs follow suit.

Yep. Well done.

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1 minute ago, Rinkadink said:

Hes right; if there's a serious injury the ref will stop the game. Play to the whistle.

I hope other clubs follow suit.

They certainly will against us, and that's fine.

It's been really annoying me for years - the FA have said leave it to the ref. to decide whether to stop the game, and play to the whistle, but still players kick the ball out.

Really good news, and well pleased it's LJ and City that have come out and made this stand.

 

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Noticed yesterday at one point couple of our players slowed the pace down and appeared indecisive what to do. Wasn’t until the crowd yelled at them to get on with it that they did. 

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Personally, I wouldn’t of emailed all the other clubs!

If opposition players want to go down pretending they’re injured it’s their loss, now clubs know that tactic isn’t going to work against us they are less likely to do it.

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24 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Well done LJ!

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Yep good to hear and well done LJ. Noticeably raised the noise levels when we carried on yesterday when one of their players was flouncing around on the floor for no good reason. Grinds my gears when the game is stopped because of play acting! 

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Or for trivial non-injuries in the case of Leeds yesterday.

Has anyone nominated their keeper for a Golden Globe?

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8 minutes ago, lenred said:

Yep good to hear and well done LJ. Noticeably raised the noise levels when we carried on yesterday when one of their players was flouncing around on the floor for no good reason. Grinds my gears when the game is stopped because of play acting! 

A mate and I both clocked the indecision in our players and then what could be argued to be a deliberate misplaced pass by Pack after we appeared to play on, to give it back to them. Felt like he hit a hopeful one almost designed to play it 50/50. Might be totally wrong.

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20 minutes ago, Tipps69 said:

Personally, I wouldn’t of emailed all the other clubs!

I thought that was an odd thing to do 

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12 minutes ago, Yozzarian said:

A mate and I both clocked the indecision in our players and then what could be argued to be a deliberate misplaced pass by Pack after we appeared to play on, to give it back to them. Felt like he hit a hopeful one almost designed to play it 50/50. Might be totally wrong.

Nope that’s just Marlon being Marlon.

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8 minutes ago, phantom said:

I thought that was an odd thing to do 

It's a sensible thing surely, takes away Warnock's ability to whinge and cry ahead of time.

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4 minutes ago, Nibor said:

It's a sensible thing surely, takes away Warnock's ability to whinge and cry ahead of time.

Yes, remember when he came down with Rotherham - every time we broke on them in the 2nd half one of their players dropped to the floor and writhed in agony.....I think the physio was on 10 times and the ball's in play for 50% of the half.

Just play on

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There were a few times yesterday when our players obviously weren't giving Leeds the respect they thought they were entitled to. Still got prima donnas in that team! You can only imagine the antics of Bamford if he'd been "accidentally " elbowed!

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2 minutes ago, Midred said:

There were a few times yesterday when our players obviously weren't giving Leeds the respect they thought they were entitled to. Still got prima donnas in that team! You can only imagine the antics of Bamford if he'd been "accidentally " elbowed!

It was bad enough when he lost the ball to Jay Dasilva and promptly dropped like he`d been shot clutching his ankle.

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There were Leeds supporters in the pub where I was watching the game. Every time a Leeds player was tackled it was a sending off offence. They were full of it whilst Leeds were scoring but after our goal and the subs where we looked like getting a second there were some black looks coming my way. I'm ashamed to say that I did a "dolman" just before the last whistle! 

 

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18 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

It was bad enough when he lost the ball to Jay Dasilva and promptly dropped like he`d been shot clutching his ankle.

You wonder whether the refs should take note of this "broken leg" syndrome followed by a 50 yard sprint 2 minutes later and have a quiet word in their ear? 2 or 3 offences like this could be offered the yellow card!

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Just now, Midred said:

You wonder whether the refs should take note of this "broken leg" syndrome followed by a 50 yard sprint 2 minutes later and have a quiet word in their ear? 2 or 3 offences like this could be offered the yellow card!

I guess they could under the `persistent misconduct` rule like when a player gets booked for an innocuous challenge because it`s about his sixth one.

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1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

Or for trivial non-injuries in the case of Leeds yesterday.

Has anyone nominated their keeper for a Golden Globe?

For best performance in a Western. (His legs looked liked he’d been riding a horse anyway)

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2 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

I guess they could under the `persistent misconduct` rule like when a player gets booked for an innocuous challenge because it`s about his sixth one.

Trouble is that some teams are signed up to more persistent misconduct than others! 

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1 hour ago, Nibor said:

It's a sensible thing surely, takes away Warnock's ability to whinge and cry ahead of time.

He'll no doubt find something else to whine and cry about....

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Fair play. The ref is there for a reason. 

Just worry that the playing ball back aspect of 'fair play' might be lost, without some clever game management by the chosen 11.

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Just realised most outlets are reporting it as "referee will stop if it's a head injury", which is spreading misinformation/common misconception.

The laws actually state a referee can stop the match for any type of serious injury, its not just for concussion or what have you. 

If LJ did specifically say head injury he's not helping with that either. :D

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3 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

Or for trivial non-injuries in the case of Leeds yesterday.

Has anyone nominated their keeper for a Golden Globe?

Noticed on a re-watch of the game Matty Taylor didn't even touch him when he got his yellow, his boot was a couple of cm's away from his face but didn't make contact and the keeper clutches his face faking an injury (shame the retrospective ban is only for red card offences I think 🙄)

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4 hours ago, Tipps69 said:

Personally, I wouldn’t of emailed all the other clubs!

If opposition players want to go down pretending they’re injured it’s their loss, now clubs know that tactic isn’t going to work against us they are less likely to do it.

They will still go down clutching their head though knowing the ref will stop the game, I'm convinced this is sometimes done if we are getting on top or are in an attacking position.

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3 hours ago, AshtonPark said:

Should be a rule now, play untill the whistle. 

It is, and always has been.

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LJ has just written another note to all clubs asking that when Famara hits the woodwork that they allow it to count as a goal.

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Great stuff, but I have one reservation..

A defender going down, play not being stopped and (it is bound to happen to us, rather than the opposition), this crocked defender playing people onside with inevitable consequences.

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3 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Great stuff, but I have one reservation..

A defender going down, play not being stopped and (it is bound to happen to us, rather than the opposition), this crocked defender playing people onside with inevitable consequences.

If the player is genuinely 'crocked' the ref will see that and stop the game. If not, bad luck - it will be interesting if more defenders manage to get up quickly in the situation you describe above.

The point is players (and previously baying fans) will not now be expecting players to kick the ball out when a player stays down, and the ref. - as he should be - will again become the sole arbiter of whether the game should be stopped.

Same for both sides of course because with City stating our position there's no doubt the opposition will take the same view against us, and hopefully this will spread quickly to be the new norm for all teams.

Brilliant if so.

 

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14 hours ago, CodeRed said:

Yes, remember when he came down with Rotherham - every time we broke on them in the 2nd half one of their players dropped to the floor and writhed in agony.....I think the physio was on 10 times and the ball's in play for 50% of the half.

Just play on

Yes I remember it well!

Their bloke did a brilliant impersonation of Jesus.

Died and came back to life about ten minutes later!!!

Cheating bastards!

 

 

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15 hours ago, Rinkadink said:

Hes right; if there's a serious injury the ref will stop the game. Play to the whistle.

I hope other clubs follow suit.

Excellent from LJ. Play to the whistle always.

People talk of sportsmanship, but in this instance it's non-sense: so many players go down "in agony" only to get up and run around 30 seconds later. It's play acting and many of us have had enough. 

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15 hours ago, Tipps69 said:

Personally, I wouldn’t of emailed all the other clubs!

 

My understanding of him doing this is that he is stating Bristol City are no longer being part of the unwritten gentleman’s type agreement that teams have not only come to expect, but are now using to their advantage. He has informed all the clubs of this so there wont be any attacks, verbal or physical from the opposition bench if there is an incident.

No doubt opposition fans will heap abuse on but if they think about it they will know he is right. I assume any thought of play acting /dark arts by us is now instantly stamped out as we got to practice what we preach, not that we are often guilty of this I don’t think.

 

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Assuming one of ours goes down (with a non life threatening injury), and the opposition haven't read the memo so kick the ball out, do we still return the ball to them from the throw-in under the spirit of fair play, or do they adopt the 'tough cheese*' approach and retain it?

 

 

*just fancied saying 'tough cheese' a phrase not uttered since my primary school days.

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