Nathandao Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 40 minutes ago, Flint says No said: I’m still not convinced they are confirmed. There’s no way they would keep them all the same. According to the EA sports website, only the icons and top 100 have been confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Flint says No said: I’m still not convinced they are confirmed. There’s no way they would keep them all the same. There is when they don't have a dedicated editor anymore and when they did, EA questioned that editor for changing "too many" stats at once to try and bring a player up to a more realistic rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Nathandao said: According to the EA sports website, only the icons and top 100 have been confirmed I think those ratings are according to the Beta and those ratings are not normally confirmed. 56 minutes ago, TBW said: There is when they don't have a dedicated editor anymore and when they did, EA questioned that editor for changing "too many" stats at once to try and bring a player up to a more realistic rating. If these are the real ratings then EA have done no research whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Wilson Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 It gets worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathandao Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Wade Wilson said: It gets worse I went to go check him out too. Wrong for two reasons. A) Why is he that much better than Kalas B) Why are they both not gold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted September 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, Wade Wilson said: It gets worse 55 passing. 66 dribbling. My god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Flint says No said: If these are the real ratings then EA have done no research whatsoever Because they don't pay Editors enough, Editors are responsible for the research - Main reason why I stepped back. They have no reason to bother getting lower-demand leagues correct. If nobody is going to want them in Ultimate Team anyway, what's the point for EA to pay someone for it's accuracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Nathandao said: According to the EA sports website, only the icons and top 100 have been confirmed Not true, entire database has been released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Meanwhile on the latest Pro Evo we're called Bristol R... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Roe said: Meanwhile on the latest Pro Evo we're called Bristol R... Didn't even know Pro Evolution had divisions below the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted September 10, 2019 Report Share Posted September 10, 2019 Is it worth buying this game and playing as City or would it be a waste of money? Would just be against CPU, I’m not interested in gaming online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Can't play any computer games,but can you get copies of the FIFA players pics like the Panini stickers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Hare Island said: Is it worth buying this game and playing as City or would it be a waste of money? Would just be against CPU, I’m not interested in gaming online. No is the honest answer , might as well just buy an older copy and manually the transfers to city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Hopefully FM20 will have better ratings, they normally are more accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 11/09/2019 at 04:29, Eastside Moonwalker said: 5 minutes ago, Sturny said: Hopefully FM20 will have better ratings, they normally are more accurate I hope they have recreated the Gate and photo-mapped the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Sturny said: Hopefully FM20 will have better ratings, they normally are more accurate I started a FM19 save at the start of summer and raided Monaco's youth team. Somewhat ironically the one I didn't pinch from them was Massengo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Watkins 68 behind Eliasson at 69 A double insult for Eliasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Pickle Rick said: Watkins 68 behind Eliasson at 69 A double insult for Eliasson Fair rating for Eliasson, 5 to high for Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Sturny said: Hopefully FM20 will have better ratings, they normally are more accurate There's no "overall" in FM so much less obvious to outright criticise without looking into the specific stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, TBW said: There's no "overall" in FM so much less obvious to outright criticise without looking into the specific stats. An awful lot more stats for people to question though. Wouldn't be too hard to create an "overall" rating either. An average of all ratings x5 to make it out of 100. Or swap so the stats are ranked out of 100 instead of 20 (if you can still do that) and take an average that way. (Assuming the Fifa ones are out of 100) Or have a look in the editor and see what the players Ability and potential ability is. Then half, as FMs goes up to 200 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: An awful lot more stats for people to question though. Wouldn't be too hard to create an "overall" rating either. An average of all ratings x5 to make it out of 100. Or swap so the stats are ranked out of 100 instead of 20 (if you can still do that) and take an average that way. (Assuming the Fifa ones are out of 100) Or have a look in the editor and see what the players Ability and potential ability is. Then half, as FMs goes up to 200 I believe. That would be unfairly skewed though, just multiplying everything. If you multiplied everything for a goalkeeper his rating overall would be super-low because of outfield stats. Same for a centre-back, his rating would drop based on shooting, dribbling stats etc. You need to be much more specific to what a player uses in their position and other possible positions they might play. In FIFA for example, the overall rating you see if the player's rating for the primary position they're listed at. Not other positions. So Tommy Rowe right now is listed as a CM but his rating would be much different playing him at LB as we've been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, TBW said: That would be unfairly skewed though, just multiplying everything. If you multiplied everything for a goalkeeper his rating overall would be super-low because of outfield stats. Same for a centre-back, his rating would drop based on shooting, dribbling stats etc. You need to be much more specific to what a player uses in their position and other possible positions they might play. In FIFA for example, the overall rating you see if the player's rating for the primary position they're listed at. Not other positions. So Tommy Rowe right now is listed as a CM but his rating would be much different playing him at LB as we've been doing. I was listing a very basic example off the top of my head. Of course doing it properly you'd take into account what stats are most relevant for the players position, perhaps just the ones highlighted when you select a role for them. It was literally a handful of different ideas that took 30 seconds to come up with. I didn't even mention removing the "goalkeeping ability" stat for outfield players.... Goalkeepers have different stats to go by on FM to outfield players anyway, so they wouldn't be particularly skewed against. The point was it wouldn't be particularly difficult to create a formula. Test said formula against some players on games like FIFA and PES who have accurate ratings- control players as it were and adjust where necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: I was listing a very basic example off the top of my head. Of course doing it properly you'd take into account what stats are most relevant for the players position, perhaps just the ones highlighted when you select a role for them. It was literally a handful of different ideas that took 30 seconds to come up with. I didn't even mention removing the "goalkeeping ability" stat for outfield players.... Goalkeepers have different stats to go by on FM to outfield players anyway, so they wouldn't be particularly skewed against. The point was it wouldn't be particularly difficult to create a formula. Test said formula against some players on games like FIFA and PES who have accurate ratings- control players as it were and adjust where necessary. And my point was that nobody is going to be spending their time composing an algorithm that would skew stats for all positions and their variant play-types for that position. It's far too much information to be dealing with just so you can compare players to one another and criticise the ratings online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, TBW said: And my point was that nobody is going to be spending their time composing an algorithm that would skew stats for all positions and their variant play-types for that position. It's far too much information to be dealing with just so you can compare players to one another and criticise the ratings online. I don't recall asking for it at any point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: I don't recall asking for it at any point... Because my original reply wasn't ever to you, you just jumped in and decided you wanted to join the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, TBW said: Because my original reply wasn't ever to you, you just jumped in and decided you wanted to join the party. Oh, so you were having a private conversation? Didn't realise OTIB was set up just for you. Thought it was a discussion board where anyone could have a say. Which I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richwilkins50 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 I play Fifa quite a bit, and really wish they’d add the gate on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Oh, so you were having a private conversation? Didn't realise OTIB was set up just for you. Thought it was a discussion board where anyone could have a say. Which I did. "I don't recall asking for it at any point..." Looks like you're assuming everything is directed at yourself with that post. So... I didn't realise OTIB was set up just for YOU either. Calm your shit, when I said "you" I didn't mean the world revolves around you and everything I wrote is specifically for you only. ****. Go get some sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Selred said: Fair rating for Eliasson, 5 to high for Watkins Eliasson should be rated 90 tbf. Crossing being 1224533 out of 99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 13, 2019 Report Share Posted September 13, 2019 5 hours ago, TBW said: "I don't recall asking for it at any point..." Looks like you're assuming everything is directed at yourself with that post. So... I didn't realise OTIB was set up just for YOU either. Calm your shit, when I said "you" I didn't mean the world revolves around you and everything I wrote is specifically for you only. ****. Go get some sleep. When someone says "you" interpreting that "you" to mean "you"isn't much of a stretch weirdly. Maybe take some of your own advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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