Mr Popodopolous Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Yep, the Leeds game in 2011 showed what can go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 There are plenty of sensible well behaved people who sit with home fans at away games. If you are quiet and anonymous it is neither risky nor irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Well this is it. It's perfectly possible with discretion and common sense. Those who go gloating on social media or similar don't do those who you describe any favours though. Probably not advisable in derby games either or games where a non geographical grudge match has kicked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampy Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 what is the maximum crowd with rugby .... Bath v Bristol ... guessing 3k seats blocked out due to segregation :laugh: .. if football supporters could only behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 hours ago, bcfc01 said: They should really get their act together and state the actual capacity. When it was being built, the plans said 27k. https://planningonline.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=MQQTQYDN00J00 Reductions on the actual total capacity are: Standing areas reduced by 10%. Segregation of Atyeo if there were home fans in it, usually means around 500 seats lost. If only away side fans in Atyeo, then we seem to have settled on 2,300 max. This figure us probably related to such pathetic allocations from some of the bigger Championship clubs. Other seat reductions may occur for extra TV cameras. I believe that we should just accept that our maximum attendance's possible are 26,100 if Atyeo has home fans and about 25,400 if only away fans in Atyeo. What we should be concentrating on as a club, is to increase our home attendances for all matches from approx 19,000 to 23,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Nothing like 3k empty- Try 1,900 or thereabouts in the Atyeo, and that's for tactical and strategic reasons as well as safety. Have you seen PL games, a couple of lines of stewards and police separating fans. 3,000 of segregation? Pfft. There is a 10% reduction in Singing section but that's nothing to do with behaviour or segregation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: What we should be concentrating on as a club, is to increase our home attendances for all matches from approx 19,000 to 23,000. Getting there; 16/17 19,256 17/18 20,953 18/19 20,850 19/20 21,988 so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, swampy said: what is the maximum crowd with rugby .... Bath v Bristol ... guessing 3k seats blocked out due to segregation .. if football supporters could only behave. 14 minutes ago, swampy said: what is the maximum crowd with rugby .... Bath v Bristol ... guessing 3k seats blocked out due to segregation .. if football supporters could only behave. Last season Bris v Bath was allegedly a sell out but still less than the two gates v Man U and Man City. Due to, I believe, four blocks, two at each end, being non reserved seats. I have a feeling that the numbers of unreserved seats at rugby games may be reduced this season, but happy to be corrected on that one. 4 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Getting there; 16/17 19,256 17/18 20,953 18/19 20,850 19/20 21,988 so far Those figures include away fans? I meant to increase home supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Those figures include away fans? Total attendance, so yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuxHarry Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Reductions on the actual total capacity are: Standing areas reduced by 10%. Segregation of Atyeo if there were home fans in it, usually means around 500 seats lost. If only away side fans in Atyeo, then we seem to have settled on 2,300 max. This figure us probably related to such pathetic allocations from some of the bigger Championship clubs. Other seat reductions may occur for extra TV cameras. I believe that we should just accept that our maximum attendance's possible are 26,100 if Atyeo has home fans and about 25,400 if only away fans in Atyeo. What we should be concentrating on as a club, is to increase our home attendances for all matches from approx 19,000 to 23,000. 19,000? We averaged 21,000 last year. 4 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Last season Bris v Bath was allegedly a sell out but still less than the two gates v Man U and Man City. Due to, I believe, four blocks, two at each end, being non reserved seats. I have a feeling that the numbers of unreserved seats at rugby games may be reduced this season, but happy to be corrected on that one. Those figures include away fans? The away average at AG last year was barely over 1,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, TuxHarry said: 19,000? We averaged 21,000 last year. As said above, I meant that we should get more home fans in as total gate figures include away fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, TuxHarry said: Will be chaos if any of them get up if they score in our end. Exactly, that's the sole domain of Rudolf and KP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Will be a bumper crowd. I will be home in France watching on BCTV regrettably. If we win this one I for one will be moist around the gusset for our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 50 minutes ago, swampy said: what is the maximum crowd with rugby .... Bath v Bristol ... guessing 3k seats blocked out due to segregation .. if football supporters could only behave. Wrong forum again knobhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, TuxHarry said: 19,000? We averaged 21,000 last year. The away average at AG last year was barely over 1,000. After allowing for away fans, our average home support last year was a little over 19,300 (based on figures reported in local press/over tannoy at AG). This was actually down slightly from the previous season. Unless you have an accurate figure of those through the turnstile at each game however the figures can be misleading. Home support can be skewed by the inclusion of ST holders regardless of whether they turn up, while away figures are heavily dependant on tickets allocated, time of game, distance to travel etc. As an indicator I much prefer the % of ground available and the % filled. But if we are going to make comparisons on published figures then its the increase in home support which tells me we're growing as a club and away figures are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 16, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 We may have got away with one in this fixture. I see it's just been announced Swansea vs Cardiff fixtures are bubble matches this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper 123 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 So far rugby bris v bath over 24000 sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Magger1 said: So far rugby bris v bath over 24000 sold fantastic. Probably around 25k eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 swampy is not a knobhead,he is a Rugby follower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Never to the dark side said: swampy is not a knobhead,he is a Rugby follower Well he acts like a knobhead John, as far as I know none of the football fans on here feel the need to constantly go to the rugby forum to criticise their fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampy Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 'Knobhead' probably sums up the average football fan's IQ. I was a passionate City fan from 63 until the mid 80s and then I discovered non league football which is like football used to be. I am not going to be treated like 'cannon fodder' and exploited by any commercial organisation and that is how football clubs treat their 'customer base'. Yes I enjoy rugby .... but football these days is a disgrace. The way, for example, City fans talk about the Welsh is nothing less than racism. Football is still deeply racist and sexist and needs to grow up. As I started by saying 'knobhead' sums things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, swampy said: 'Knobhead' probably sums up the average football fan's IQ. I was a passionate City fan from 63 until the mid 80s and then I discovered non league football which is like football used to be. I am not going to be treated like 'cannon fodder' and exploited by any commercial organisation and that is how football clubs treat their 'customer base'. Yes I enjoy rugby .... but football these days is a disgrace. The way, for example, City fans talk about the Welsh is nothing less than racism. Football is still deeply racist and sexist and needs to grow up. As I started by saying 'knobhead' sums things up. So why the **** are you still here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, swampy said: 'Knobhead' probably sums up the average football fan's IQ. I was a passionate City fan from 63 until the mid 80s and then I discovered non league football which is like football used to be. I am not going to be treated like 'cannon fodder' and exploited by any commercial organisation and that is how football clubs treat their 'customer base'. Yes I enjoy rugby .... but football these days is a disgrace. The way, for example, City fans talk about the Welsh is nothing less than racism. Football is still deeply racist and sexist and needs to grow up. As I started by saying 'knobhead' sums things up. Why do you insist on coming on this forum so often if you have such distain for modern professional football? There's plenty of non-league or rugby forums where you could spend your time instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWSM Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 is anyone else suprised we still have 1500 tickets left for Saturday's game. 1 given it's against a rival and 2 it's a chance to go top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 I'm now predicting a crowd of 23,000 at 3pm and a crowd if 25,000 30 mimutes later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, MattWSM said: is anyone else suprised we still have 1500 tickets left for Saturday's game. 1 given it's against a rival and 2 it's a chance to go top. That might be down to some fans with young children boycotting the game due to the potential for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: That might be down to some fans with young children boycotting the game due to the potential for trouble. I suppose it's still early in the season, maybe if we had a chance to go top with say 5 games left we would hopefully sell out, still reckon a lot of those tickets will go as we get nearer Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 Reckon it will be between 23k & 24k by KO on Saturday As others have said, some probably put off, based on what happened last season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 It’s funny isn’t it.......we’re trying to find reasons why we aren’t getting a 26,000 sell out whilst the sags are desperately trying to understand why they’re only getting 6,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 7 hours ago, swampy said: 'Knobhead' probably sums up the average football fan's IQ. I was a passionate City fan from 63 until the mid 80s and then I discovered non league football which is like football used to be. I am not going to be treated like 'cannon fodder' and exploited by any commercial organisation and that is how football clubs treat their 'customer base'. Yes I enjoy rugby .... but football these days is a disgrace. The way, for example, City fans talk about the Welsh is nothing less than racism. Football is still deeply racist and sexist and needs to grow up. As I started by saying 'knobhead' sums things up. OK. May I just go through some of the contradictions here. You think that football is more commercialised than a sport where the clubs are actively encouraged to change their name for commercial purposes? We will get a taste of just how “non-commercial” rugby is over the next 6 weeks or so. It has been widely reported that since the change in grounds and policing techniques, the old hooligan elements have moved to non-League where they have less monitoring and more freedom of movement. Is this what you mean by “football like it used to be”? Returning to a period that had the greatest amount of arrests for hooliganism. Finally, as has been noted here, not just by the fans but by the community police officer, the biggest incidents of “trouble” before the Swansea game last season, all occurred at the rugby matches. On a personal level you rightly take people to task for using sweeping generalisations based on race or nationality, but see no irony in using them when describing the broad church that football fans represent. I have no doubt that further steps could be taken to clean up football, it would step further on the spontaneity that so many of us love, but it could be done. I can see this because I don’t have access to the high horse you are on or the rose tinted glasses you are wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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