Eddie Hitler Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 This crossed my mind when I looked up Paul Heffernan who is Irish in connection with strikers who are free agents (not a suggestion btw as he has hasn't played professionally for two years). When it comes to non-English players we have had some brilliant Scots (Gerry Gow, Scott Murray and Paul Hartley spring to mind), some decent Welsh players (Mark Aizlewood, Lee Trundle) but nobody really stands out from Ireland, north or south. I know Tommy Doc played for NI through ancestry and we have had youth players over the years including one promising one who we pulled out of signing after he decided to start throwing people into Torquay harbour but I struggle to name senior players. There was an attacking midfielder we signed from a Scottish club who was more of an impact substitution and I forget his name. Am I missing somebody obvious or have we just not had the players for one reason or another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54-46 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Ivan Sproule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: This crossed my mind when I looked up Paul Heffernan who is Irish in connection with strikers who are free agents (not a suggestion btw as he has hasn't played professionally for two years). When it comes to non-English players we have had some brilliant Scots (Gerry Gow, Scott Murray and Paul Hartley spring to mind), some decent Welsh players (Mark Aizlewood, Lee Trundle) but nobody really stands out from Ireland, north or south. I know Tommy Doc played for NI through ancestry and we have had youth players over the years including one promising one who we pulled out of signing after he decided to start throwing people into Torquay harbour but I struggle to name senior players. There was an attacking midfielder we signed from a Scottish club who was more of an impact substitution and I forget his name. Am I missing somebody obvious or have we just not had the players for one reason or another? We have had a couple, but as you say more from Scotland and Wales. I don't know if there is a historic reason, but in Dolman's book there is a chapter about Peter Doherty's period as Manager and how bringing in Irish players caused some division along sectarian lines in the dressing room. Maybe that has had an influence over the years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 I always thought Lee Trundle was a Scouser! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, 54-46 said: Ivan Sproule? That's the fella I was trying to recall. Though he was hardly a mainstay of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinéadB Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Greg Cunningham's Irish I believe and he played a reasonable amount for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Port Said Red said: We have had a couple, but as you say more from Scotland and Wales. I don't know if there is a historic reason, but in Dolman's book there is a chapter about Peter Doherty's period as Manager and how bringing in Irish players caused some division along sectarian lines in the dressing room. Maybe that has had an influence over the years? I didn't know that but that can't have cast a shadow into the 90s surely? 1 minute ago, S.B. said: Greg Cunningham's Irish I believe and he played a reasonable amount for us. Yes, good call. How can I have forgotten his excellent book running video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Rory Holden is on our books. A promising winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Red Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, S.B. said: Greg Cunningham's Irish I believe and he played a reasonable amount for us. He is Irish from Galway, the best player in the Irish league is Jack Byrne at Shamrock Rovers who went through the Man City academy, he made his debut for the Republic last week coming on for O'Dowda and played a great cameo, wouldn't be surprised if he came to a Championship club in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Red Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 A bit of trivia here, Dermot Curtis played for City and scored in a 1-1 draw for Ireland against England in 1958 in a game where Atyeo scored for England, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 We also had Smith, a striker for us, in the 90s. He never scored a goal. There was also a loanee from Man City. Ryan (I've forgotten his surname) and was a midfielder with dyed bleach blonde short hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1958 world cup qualifiers; England v Ireland. City provided both centre forwards; John Atyeo and Dermot Curtis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Pedr O'Pereira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: We also had Smith, a striker for us, in the 90s. He never scored a goal. There was also a loanee from Man City. Ryan (I've forgotten his surname) and was a midfielder with dyed bleach blonde short hair. McGivern, he was a left back wasn’t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Derek Williams, Irish international, though born in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 44 minutes ago, S.B. said: Greg Cunningham's Irish I believe and he played a reasonable amount for us. Isn't Derek Williams Irish, or of Irish descent? I know it seems unlikely with a surname that is more often associated with Welsh ancestry (and maybe I'm having a senior moment here), but I seem to recall him being considered for Irish representative honours at some level at one early stage in his career. Perhaps I'm confusing him with someone else: I'm sure someone will correct me. The other name that will mean something to old gits like me is Tommy Casey, who in the terminology of the day played left half (i.e. no. 6, for all you post-baby boom youngsters). He was an Irish international and a very classy player at City's (then) level.* He came once to my old school to do a bit of coaching and I still remember it. Lovely bloke and I learned more in about an hour then I did in all the rest of my school sports sessions. *Edit: this was late 50s/early 60s. 4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Derek Williams, Irish international, though born in Germany. You pipped me by a matter of seconds, Major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Major Isewater Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said: Isn't Derek Williams Irish, or of Irish descent? I know it seems unlikely with a surname that is more often associated with Welsh ancestry (and maybe I'm having a senior moment here), but I seem to recall him being considered for Irish representative honours at some level at one early stage in his career. Perhaps I'm confusing him with someone else: I'm sure someone will correct me. The other name that will mean something to old gits like me is Tommy Casey, who in the terminology of the day played left half (i.e. no. 6, for all you post-baby boom youngsters). He was an Irish international and a very classy player at City's (then) level.* He came once to my old school to do a bit of coaching and I still remember it. Lovely bloke and I learned more in about an hour then I did in all the rest of my school sports sessions. *Edit: this was late 50s/early 60s. You pipped me by a matter of seconds, Major. Ace pipper I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 50 minutes ago, Galway Red said: A bit of trivia here, Dermot Curtis played for City and scored in a 1-1 draw for Ireland against England in 1958 in a game where Atyeo scored for England, Good bit of trivia this. Have there been many international matches where two City players played against each other? There probably are a few, but not many, as our list of international players is quite small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Goch Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 58 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: We also had Smith, a striker for us, in the 90s. He never scored a goal. There was also a loanee from Man City. Ryan (I've forgotten his surname) and was a midfielder with dyed bleach blonde short hair. Andy Smith? That was 2007 but seems so long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Robin Goch said: Andy Smith? That was 2007 but seems so long ago. Barry Corr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, WiltshireReds said: Barry Corr. You mean Barry Poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, WiltshireReds said: Barry Corr. I loved his song, 'Runaway', with his sisters, great group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Didn't we have a young keeper called Henderson who played for RoI? Although may have made the national squad once he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, Robin Goch said: Andy Smith? That was 2007 but seems so long ago. Thanks Robin. Andy, that's him. Can't believe I've lost 10 years! Wow! Only 2007. Always felt sorry for him. He was energetic but despite playing for a few English clubs, he never scored a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, CiderCraig said: I loved his song, 'Runaway', with his sisters, great group. I pushed him out of the room.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 John Burns who arrived from Forest as part of the Jim Brennan deal. At the time, Tony P***s heralded him as the next Roy Keane. He wasn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Red Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, David Brent said: I pushed him out of the room.. Haha, then I'll get the other three, bend the drummer over....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: John Burns who arrived from Forest as part of the Jim Brennan deal. At the time, Tony P***s heralded him as the next Roy Keane. He wasn’t. £100k valuation in the deal; I don't think Pulis believed his own hype there. Just a headline grabber for the BEP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 O'Dowda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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