QuedgeRed Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Thought some would find this amusing. Basically what this forum has been saying for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Sounds like he wasn't putting any effort in at WBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Not all loans work out, as we know only too well. The name of Ryan Kent comes to mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Or Rose for that matter. Thought he was rubbish when he came here. Looked completely disinterested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Akira said: Or Rose for that matter. Thought he was rubbish when he came here. Looked completely disinterested. Still looks rubbish to me. Every time I watch Spurs with my North London friend I take the piss and it's usually easy with plenty of ammunition supplied! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 I’m not defending Pulis but 4 years ago maybe Gnabry wasn’t ready back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Are people forgetting he had just recovered from a really bad knee injury at the point in time when he was loaned out to WBA..He was out for like half a year, don't blame him for not being a world beater in the 2014-2015 season, confidence and fitness must've been shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Akira said: Or Rose for that matter. Thought he was rubbish when he came here. Looked completely disinterested. Rose had a couple of very good games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Plenty of lemons brought into our club. Pulis was dull but made us harder to beat, which was actually what we needed at the time in my opinion - although why he was selected over David Moyes is still puzzling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Elokobi looked decent.... for a couple of minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Akira said: Or Rose for that matter. Thought he was rubbish when he came here. Looked completely disinterested. He WAS disinterested. Thought playing here for experience was beneath him. Completely different attitude from Caulker, who we got the best out of, but was sadly later derailed by his own demons. Tammy also showed that a great professional does his best for whatever club he is at, bides his time, and takes his chances when they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: He WAS disinterested. Thought playing here for experience was beneath him. Completely different attitude from Caulker, who we got the best out of, but was sadly later derailed by his own demons. Tammy also showed that a great professional does his best for whatever club he is at, bides his time, and takes his chances when they come. What makes you think he was disinterested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Leko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Riaz said: What makes you think he was disinterested? His performances. Clearly putting in less effort than he did when back in the Prem on loan to Sunderland, where he faced better opponents. Clearly had pace and on the ball ability but spent most of his time here jogging aimlessly down the wing and not becoming involved much in active play. When he wasn't injured. These kids that play for elite clubs are lauded and feted to high heaven based on potential and youth football, paid money their mates can only dream of, and many are already big-time charlies when they come to clubs in lower divisions on loan. Some, like Tammy, use the experience of coming here to make friends, learn, and as a springboard on to greater things. Others don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: His performances. Clearly putting in less effort than he did when back in the Prem on loan to Sunderland, where he faced better opponents. Clearly had pace and on the ball ability but spent most of his time here jogging aimlessly down the wing and not becoming involved much in active play. When he wasn't injured. These kids that play for elite clubs are lauded and feted to high heaven based on potential and youth football, paid money their mates can only dream of, and many are already big-time charlies when they come to clubs in lower divisions on loan. Some, like Tammy, use the experience of coming here to make friends, learn, and as a springboard on to greater things. Others don't. So its your opinion that he was disinterested then. Could have been just a young player still learning the game. Lets be fair, Millen was the manager at the time and we very poor. And tactics was not millens strong point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Riaz said: So its your opinion that he was disinterested then. Could have been just a young player still learning the game. Lets be fair, Millen was the manager at the time and we very poor. And tactics was not millens strong point. He was disinterested off the pitch too, walked round like he owned the place. And Caulker didn’t have any problem being a young player learning his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, RonWalker said: He was disinterested off the pitch too. Go on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Riaz said: So its your opinion that he was disinterested then. Could have been just a young player still learning the game. Lets be fair, Millen was the manager at the time and we very poor. And tactics was not millens strong point. Well, amazingly, he suddenly got better on his next assignment when playing at a higher level, where he'd have faced much tougher games. But it wasn't the end result. It was the effort. The effort he made here was minimal. And he had that Ryan Kent "I don't want to be here" face all the time as well. Compare and contrast with Caulker, who was immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Makes me laugh when fans say players dont try. I cant imagine how anyone would play football and not try. So ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Riaz said: Go on.... Sorry, I realised it was a bit vague and edited it. Basically a proper PL big shot around the training ground, in his own head at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Riaz said: Makes me laugh when fans say players dont try. I cant imagine how anyone would play football and not try. So ridiculous To some footballers it’s simply a job and like all of us if we don’t like the our work environment then we are unlikely to do our best. That certainly applies to some players and one was Rose and it’s so ‘ridiculous’ to think otherwise that it doesn’t apply to some other players as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Riaz said: Makes me laugh when fans say players dont try. I cant imagine how anyone would play football and not try. So ridiculous You obviously didn't know me at school! But, it's not so much the thought "I'm going to not make much effort and be deliberately shit" it's more not wanting to be somewhere, not feeling much of a connection with the team and from that low psychological point basically not giving your best. We've all seen it bags of times from certain players at City in the past. Fingers crossed, it's not a charge I'd ever level at anyone here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Riaz said: Makes me laugh when fans say players dont try. I cant imagine how anyone would play football and not try. So ridiculous I can imagine some players looking for a move, or not liking the manager and trying to get them the sack not trying. A minority for sure but there must be examples of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, Riaz said: Makes me laugh when fans say players dont try. I cant imagine how anyone would play football and not try. So ridiculous Yeah Tomlin gave maximum effort when he was here after he signed permanently, pretty much like what got reported by every other clubs fans once he got his permanent move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 43 minutes ago, Riaz said: Makes me laugh when fans say players dont try. I cant imagine how anyone would play football and not try. So ridiculous It’s not so much not trying, it’s not trying as much. Look at Spurs last weekend when they lost the ball. Static compared to the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Robbored said: To some footballers it’s simply a job and like all of us if we don’t like the our work environment then we are unlikely to do our best. That certainly applies to some players and one was Rose and it’s so ‘ridiculous’ to think otherwise that it doesn’t apply to some other players as well. Well yes, but if they have the “just a job” mentality, they still need to do well to progress in there career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Loon plage said: I can imagine some players looking for a move, or not liking the manager and trying to get them the sack not trying. A minority for sure but there must be examples of that. Maybe subconsciously. But no one benefits from not playing well. Football is highly competitive and there’s always someone willing to take your place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Riaz said: Well yes, but if they have the “just a job” mentality, they still need to do well to progress in there career Rose was less than impressive on loan at City but ended up playing for England so he obviously impressed somewhere..... Being Yorkshire boy maybe he didn’t like Bristol or the area or maybe he had been reluctant to go on loan? Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Robbored said: Rose was less than impressive on loan at City but ended up playing for England so he obviously impressed somewhere..... Being Yorkshire boy maybe he didn’t like Bristol or the area or maybe he had been reluctant to go on loan? Who knows? He was played on the left wing while he was with us, which might not have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: He was played on the left wing while he was with us, which might not have helped. I would say he was more left midfield/wingbackat the time think Joe bryan type position..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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