Vincent Vega Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Because he gets exceptional results from the players for the first season or two. He never manages to make it through the third season, I wonder why? Usually won the trophies by then though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenRobin Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Ha Screw Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said: When Spurs win the Fa Cup next summer I’m coming back to this thread! Ok. I'll be on the "Play Off heartache once again" threads.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 @JamesBCFC In a fair few cases yes, this has gone quite wrong in Year 3 and we'll never know how it would have panned out, but I'm quite sure that Inter would have loved him to have stayed for a third season- absolutely loved him to. He left Inter on the highest note, winning the treble before Real Madrid came calling- the first and still only treble ever for an Italian side. Likewise you can bet that if Porto had been able to keep him- and had they kept him in 2004, then a decent chunk of players may also have stayed- they very much would have. His record of trophies is great- his record of legacy is definitely more mixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Really? Jose won trophies at Utd inc one of the Euro cups, even though taking over a car crash, he won the league with Chelsea in second spell, and he’s won trophies at every club he’s been at, hardly a strange appointment, Poch has won best part of nothing so far as a manager Spurs have the potential to be a huge club they just need to loosen the purse strings a little and have the right person in charge perhaps Jose will be that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 If Jose gets a large sum of money to spend, then the question needs to be asked - did the board not trust Poch with this or did he never ask for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedred31 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Can’t think of a club less suited to the special one as Spurs. He’s all strong defensive spine, discipline and organisation. Spurs fans grow up to expect open, free flowing football. They often don’t get it, but that has to be the aim, or their fans just won’t buy it. Like Pauli’s at Ashton Gate- just never going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Mourinho is just a poor man’s Steve Cotterill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 hours ago, NOTBLUE said: As I keep pointing out to them,they’re becoming like the London equivalent of Newcastle. How do you keep pointing it out to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: He never manages to make it through the third season, I wonder why? He did at Chelsea ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Super said: So you just ignore the mess he always leaves a club? He leaves the biggest clubs in the world in a mess?! Really?! Of course he doesn’t .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 19/11/2019 at 22:00, Northern Red said: Mourinho and Levy doesn't seem like a natural fit, does it? But apparently Levy wanted to sign Mourinho back in 2007, and has now finally got his man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 hours ago, Super said: In five years at Tottenham, Mauricio Pochettino had a net spend of just £109m. In Jose Mourinho's first 2 months at Manchester United, he had already spent £166.5m You sure about those figures? Mourinho took over at Old Trafford in May 2016 - then in June, July and August that year he spent: £30m on Eric Bailly £zero on Ibrahimovic £26.3 on Mkhitaryan £89m on Pogba Total: £145.3m .... and over the last five seasons Spurs apparently spent £322.3m on players and recouped £227.7m when selling players - that gives a net spend of £94.6m ... https://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Bollox to Mourinho, the blokes an absolute always has been. Was it 7 times he said in his post match interview about how ‘lucky’ we were when we deservedly beat Man Utd at AG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 hours ago, pillred said: Spurs have the potential to be a huge club they just need to loosen the purse strings a little and have the right person in charge perhaps Jose will be that man. They’ve spent over £322m on players in the last five years .... but apparently they don’t pay the top whack salaries ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: They’ve spent over £322m on players in the last five years .... but apparently they don’t pay the top whack salaries ... It sounds a lot but at £64 million a season compared to the BIG clubs that's peanuts, even though to us in the championship it sounds a ridiculous amount of money, but as far as salaries that's what I meant they need to loosen the purse strings to attract the world class players, perhaps under Jose they are at last going to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 It’s potentially a great move from Spurs. In their self imposed financial restraint, Pochettino couldn’t win anything. Maybe Jose will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 19 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Because he gets exceptional results from the players for the first season or two. He never manages to make it through the third season, I wonder why? There is coaching theory that head coaches/Managers lose efficiency after three seasons in a role. The first three seasons are the period to attain success more easily - Their impact as coaches after three seasons diminishes as part of a natural psychology.. One of the Coaches who espouses this as a belief is Pep Guardiola. He felt he spent one season too long at Barcelona. Man City? Jose Mourinho uses a coaching method known as tactical periodisation. The game has five elements and those elements have timescales to be internalised into the squad. Here again the theory is that success is periodized. Seasons two and three are the most likely timescale for success. Mourinho and the fourth? Gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 15 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: How do you keep pointing it out to them? 15 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: How do you keep pointing it out to them? As a club,over the last few years,not winning anything,but they’re a massive club...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, RedDave said: It’s potentially a great move from Spurs. In their self imposed financial restraint, Pochettino couldn’t win anything. Maybe Jose will. It will end in tears. He may win a trophy, He will spend lots of money, he will fail to bring youngsters through, He will fall out with players then he will leave Spurs in a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 49 minutes ago, Super said: It will end in tears. He may win a trophy, He will spend lots of money, he will fail to bring youngsters through, He will fall out with players then he will leave Spurs in a mess. More chance of a trophy than under Pochettino. He won’t spend a penny more than Poch would have as Spurs transfer activity doesn’t really involve the manager. Levy won’t allow a mess to be created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 16 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: They’ve spent over £322m on players in the last five years .... but apparently they don’t pay the top whack salaries ... They don’t pay top whack. Relativity speaking they pay good wages with big incentive bonuses. But no Spurs player is on over £300k per week which is what I would consider top whack nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 19 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: He leaves the biggest clubs in the world in a mess?! Really?! Of course he doesn’t .... Didn’t Chelsea win the league with the next manager after Jose left 2nd spell, hardly a mess! Man Utd were already well into their nose dive when Jose came in and he still won the Euro Cup and League Cup was it. Yet Poch wins nothing at all ever and gets lauded as some kind of football genius, insane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BS4 on Tour... Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Didn’t Chelsea win the league with the next manager after Jose left 2nd spell, hardly a mess! Man Utd were already well into their nose dive when Jose came in and he still won the Euro Cup and League Cup was it. Yet Poch wins nothing at all ever and gets lauded as some kind of football genius, insane! I agree with you - Josè does not leave clubs in a mess. Hiddink was the Chelsea manager after Jose’s second spell - he didn’t win the league, but, as you say, Chelsea was hardly in a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 20/11/2019 at 08:36, sephjnr said: Jose's firebrand personality for one, for another he will stand up for the need to spend money - last year he spent as much in one week as Poch had spent over 5-and-a-half years to this date. On 20/11/2019 at 09:32, BS4 on Tour... said: Did he? When was that week last year and who did he buy? As far as I can recall, last season Man Utd only brought in Diogo Dalot, Fred, Lee Grant and Paul Woolston .... and Jose was sacked in December 2018. The Fred transfer was rumoured to have cost Man Utd just over £50m - yet Levy authorised Spurs player purchases totalling £30m in the summer of 2014, £50m in the summer of 2015, nearly £70m in the summer of 2016 ... and Levy allowed Poch to spend over £100m on players to join Spurs in the summer of 2017 .... I think you’ve got Diane Abbott doing your sums ... Love how people post unsubstantiated tripe that is probably made up and then totally ignore a post questioning their stats and suggesting they are totally incorrect - sounds a lot like social media in the build up to the general election ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 21/11/2019 at 18:16, phantom said: Fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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