Davefevs Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Genuinely can’t remember us playing 433 last season but may well be wrong. I dont believe fam has the movement to play up top on his own, he doesn’t move defenders about enough, but if we can get players closer to play off him then 433 might work with wiemann and Eliasson energy . Worth a try I don’t think we’ve played a pure 433 under LJ. Stoke last season 2nd half was a mix of systems, and possibly more 4141, with Pack allowing Walsh and Brownhill to get closer to Fam, so would be interesting to see a true 433. I partly think teams have sussed our 532 out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: @steviestevieneville you know I’m not one who is over fussed by formations, and I think it is more about the players, e.g. we were no better second half 442 than we were 1st half with 5311 on Wednesday. What injuries has done is restrict certain players from starting, e.g. Eliasson doesn’t for 532/5212, Palmer doesn’t fit 442, etc, and I guess a back 5 means only 5 midfield / forwards, etc. The squad has looked a bit unbalanced. I’m starting to see the light of a 433. I think it gives us variation without imbalance and rotation too. Injury doubts make tomorrow’s team selection tough, but something along the lines of (not saying this will be the team): Bentley Pereira | Moore | Williams | Rowe Brownhill | Nagy | Massengo Watkins | Diedhiou | Eliasson There could rightly be some chuckles that I’ve put Watkins in, but there is some thought behind it. He does like to attack the back stick, and would give us a good option at the far post for Eliasson’s cross and is happy on either flank. The defence really is interchangeable with Hunt, Kalas, Baker and Dasilva. (A first choice back 4 in its own right) The midfield 3 is supplemented by Smith and O’Dowda. The frontline by Palmer, Szmodics, Semenyo and Weimann, etc All without having to change the system. Players picked on merit, fatigue, not because of system. Very good point on Watkins , Dave . He could well suit that wide forward role. As I posted earlier, I think 433 would suit the whole squad . Agree it’s more about the players but as you well know 442 just gets overrun in midfield and I’d personally like to see Brownhill , Nagy and massengo together. you can also play smith, Rowe, defensive midfield (when jay’s back ) O’dowda attacking from the 3 plus plenty of permutations either side of a main striker. right that’s that sorted, now we just need to get that arsenal lad back from Leeds and sign Bowen from hull for £20m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Very good point on Watkins , Dave . He could well suit that wide forward role. As I posted earlier, I think 433 would suit the whole squad . Agree it’s more about the players but as you well know 442 just gets overrun in midfield and I’d personally like to see Brownhill , Nagy and massengo together. you can also play smith, Rowe, defensive midfield (when jay’s back ) O’dowda attacking from the 3 plus plenty of permutations either side of a main striker. right that’s that sorted, now we just need to get that arsenal lad back from Leeds and sign Bowen from hull for £20m Don’t forget your bendy Bully’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I don’t think we’ve played a pure 433 under LJ. Stoke last season 2nd half was a mix of systems, and possibly more 4141, with Pack allowing Walsh and Brownhill to get closer to Fam, so would be interesting to see a true 433. I partly think teams have sussed our 532 out too. Slightly off topic but as we’re talking multiple systems , it was interesting listening to ex Arsenal players talking about Emery today. Saying how he switched from 3 at the back to 4 at the back 47 times since he’s been in charge and kept confusing the players , that inevitably they lost faith in him. Sound familiar ? Not that I’m suggesting LJ has lost the players at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Don’t forget your bendy Bully’s Well done , you’re from stoke and you’ve won a speed boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC OF SWEDEN Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 If Kalas and Moore is out, it must be like this, 4-3-2-1 .....................Bentley......................... ........Hunt, Williams, Baker, Row........ ....Massengo, Nagy(or Smith), Brownhill... Weimann............................. ........,.Eliasson ......................Famara......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 I don’t think O’Dowda will play. He went off injured on Weds and when did he ever return quickly. He doesn’t get little knocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, daored said: 4-2-3-1 Bentley Pereira Baker Williams Rowe Nagy Massengo Semenyo. Brownhill Eliasson Didehiou Semenyo big opportunity A big opportunity to do what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 hours ago, daored said: 4-2-3-1 Bentley Pereira Baker Williams Rowe Nagy Massengo Semenyo. Brownhill Eliasson Didehiou Get Brownhill as an attacking midfielder supporting Dodehiou, Eliasson playing wide and Semenyo big opportunity Weiman instead of Semenyo. Good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 Famara and Eliasson starts. COD on the bench, unusual. When Watkins played we have never lost by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 29, 2019 Report Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, RedM said: I don’t think O’Dowda will play. He went off injured on Weds and when did he ever return quickly. He doesn’t get little knocks I think LJ said deadleg, so depending on severity he could make it. Whether he deserves a game is a whole different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 22 hours ago, Prinny said: Step 1: Pick Eliasson Step 2: Pick the two competent strikers we have up front.. Step 3: Don't pick O'Dowda and Wright. ..... Step 5: Profit. Just Step 4 to see today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Quite like our side today. Although would rather have Moore than Baker. Hoping Weimann is wide and Diedhiou up top on his own as that means Eliasson more freedom as the other winger with 3 central midfielders covering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Prinny said: Just Step 4 to see today. This management lark is easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC OF SWEDEN Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 29/11/2019 at 20:52, BCFC OF SWEDEN said: If Kalas and Moore is out, it must be like this, 4-3-2-1 .....................Bentley......................... ........Hunt, Williams, Baker, Row........ ....Massengo, Nagy(or Smith), Brownhill... Weimann............................. ........,.Eliasson ......................Famara......................... Hm......100%.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 minute ago, BCFC OF SWEDEN said: Hm......100%.. Nothing like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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