RedLionLad Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Northern Red said: Why do you never show your face after a win? Let's hope he's not posting anything next Sunday eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Bicester Red said: Got to admit I am fed up of hearing LJ after the defeats SAME old over and over 2 seasons of poor home form Playing at home like we are away But he does not change it he has taken us as far as he can If SL wants to keep wasting his money, then stick with LJ It is time to move on to the next step A manager who knows this division and has been there before That is how to move onto the next step But SL is to friendly with LJ now And is blinded on the next step So I think we will be getting more of the same this and next season Is that a poem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 He hasnt a clue when setting us up at home and has been like that for a few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Northern Red said: Why do you never show your face after a win? His best input on this forum was when he started a thread during the Ipswich game last season when we were 2-1 down saying Johnson has to go, backfired pretty quickly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 47 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Alternatively we've just been beaten and people are pissed off. Maybe a bit early to panic yet but the signs are there that we might be on another of our frequent downturns, what I'm getting at is that more people liked that post or agreed with it than might have been expected given our league position, it doesn't take much for the forums confidence in LJ to waver given our past history of these type of runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handballbygordonparr Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Stick with LJ - we only lose at home occasionally and there is always a very good reason for our totally inept performances. It's wrong for us to expect a point or two from 2 home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Crikey, did people actually go to the game? Our team of professional footballers made mistakes more or less every minute of the match, probably every 30 seconds of the second half. Misplaced pass, poor touch, unnecessary tackle, bad handling, overhit long ball, missed shot, unmarked attacking opponent, misplaced pass, poor touch, misplaced pass, misplaced pass, misplaced pass. How on earth do you pin this on the manager? A majority of the players were absolutely shocking, you can't do much if so called professionals (bar Ashley Williams and at a push Eliasson) all look like they've been on the lash the night before. I have kept quiet about this but it's not the first bad home game where the real difference is opponents execute crisply and accurately, we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 He can't get a team to even pass a ball. The basics. I've been saying it for ages. I'm glad LJ doesn't run a firm of plumbers. If they regularly got the basics wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 8 hours ago, nickolas said: Yet he’s the one who has purchased all these little mini-mees who play as he did ( tippy tappy shite and get bullied by more physical players ). We have spent huge sums both in fees and wages down the last few years. Cant help but think we should be spending ( as per Bristol Rugby ), on a top coach who can get the best out of players. And yes i know we are ‘still 7th’ etc, but i just have a feel of inevitibility about a season that again promises so much but lets us fall just short again. Rarely overly impressed with LJ as a player for his dad tbh, but I must say overall as a manager I think he's done a decent enough job, just that he's bought into the scientific side of things a bit much, we're a bunch of blokes playing football ffs not a set of pawns in a strategic game of chess.. As a player I thought if he had gone into hairdressing instead of football his speciality cut would have been 'short back and sides' much like his ball playing on the field . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Olé said: Crikey, did people actually go to the game? Our team of professional footballers made mistakes more or less every minute of the match, probably every 30 seconds of the second half. Misplaced pass, poor touch, unnecessary tackle, bad handling, overhit long ball, missed shot, unmarked attacking opponent, misplaced pass, poor touch, misplaced pass, misplaced pass, misplaced pass. How on earth do you pin this on the manager? A majority of the players were absolutely shocking, you can't do much if so called professionals (bar Ashley Williams and at a push Eliasson) all look like they've been on the lash the night before. I have kept quiet about this but it's not the first bad home game where the real difference is opponents execute crisply and accurately, we don't. @Olé - it’s just not one match though is it? It’s been this way for a couple of years now. It’s his squad, his tactics, setup. Just like in any other workforce it’s the Manager in the firing line when his or hers team underperform and rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Olé said: Crikey, did people actually go to the game? Our team of professional footballers made mistakes more or less every minute of the match, probably every 30 seconds of the second half. Misplaced pass, poor touch, unnecessary tackle, bad handling, overhit long ball, missed shot, unmarked attacking opponent, misplaced pass, poor touch, misplaced pass, misplaced pass, misplaced pass. How on earth do you pin this on the manager? A majority of the players were absolutely shocking, you can't do much if so called professionals (bar Ashley Williams and at a push Eliasson) all look like they've been on the lash the night before. I have kept quiet about this but it's not the first bad home game where the real difference is opponents execute crisply and accurately, we don't. My take - a bit like a striker fluffing his lines because he can't handle the moment, right at the crucial time - I think our players are over-coached and think too much too often. When things start to go a little wrong the thinking overtakes the doing. With LJs over-emphasis in turning every aspect of the game into a scientific formula that would fill any whiteboard, I'm pretty sure where the responsibly lies most of the time. And yes, the players bear some of the responsibility too. Blinded by science. LJ probably couldn't fill a buffet plate without organising the sausages as wing-backs, the sandwiches in their role as defensive midfielders. I see the same problem in national level power chair football. The unhappiest players are those that are coached relentlessly, who cannot move a wheel without being told where to be and what to do. When the coaching changes they become free sprits able to express their talent. Of course there is a happy balance. Does LJ provide it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Red Exile said: 'be more aggressive in our simplicity' Proof positive,,chats absolute shit. 10 hours ago, Red Exile said: and labels the whole squad 'powder puff'. Made in his own image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Olé said: Crikey, did people actually go to the game? Our team of professional footballers made mistakes more or less every minute of the match, probably every 30 seconds of the second half. Misplaced pass, poor touch, unnecessary tackle, bad handling, overhit long ball, missed shot, unmarked attacking opponent, misplaced pass, poor touch, misplaced pass, misplaced pass, misplaced pass. How on earth do you pin this on the manager? A majority of the players were absolutely shocking, you can't do much if so called professionals (bar Ashley Williams and at a push Eliasson) all look like they've been on the lash the night before. I have kept quiet about this but it's not the first bad home game where the real difference is opponents execute crisply and accurately, we don't. You actually are Lee,, aren't you??... Throwing the whole squad under the bus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: My take - a bit like a striker fluffing his lines because he can't handle the moment, right at the crucial time - I think our players are over-coached and think too much too often. When things start to go a little wrong the thinking overtakes the doing. Oh I do agree with that. I almost added in my post that if people want to blame LJ for anything it's not that the players are making so many mistakes themselves, but that they do so looking overcome by the pressure of what they're supposed to be doing, which I wouldn't expect to be the case with doing the basics right - unless they're seriously over-thinking things. When someone pointed out how many goals we're conceding yesterday in reference to the perception our attack is at fault, I said at the time that it sometimes looks like players are so busy thinking about what they need to do next to aid our complex pattern of attacking play, that they screw up what they're supposed to be doing now with their first touch or pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, glos old boy said: His squad/players and his team selection, he also works/trains with them most days he in fact should man up and take the blame for his "powderpuff" midfield and non existant strikeforce. We have had many posts/threads about our missing players and now apart from one they are back so why are we not kicking on? We should recall our Welsh international midfielder and start him and Smith replacing Naggy and Mass; if we fail to bring in a PROVEN striker in this league this next window we should all walk away in dis-belief; We have been here before failing to invest in proven players then falling away from great position, the signs are there again being possibly only a couple more defeats away from a below midfield position, glass half empty outlook for sure. With Sheff Weds up next, who smashed Forest its not looking great. Talking of Sheffield we could/should easily be matching Utd`s flying position not flaffing around like we are.....go for it F.F.S. wake the hell up. I have that feeling in me water that say's we are embarking on one of "those runs" Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Olé said: Crikey, did people actually go to the game? Our team of professional footballers made mistakes more or less every minute of the match, probably every 30 seconds of the second half. Misplaced pass, poor touch, unnecessary tackle, bad handling, overhit long ball, missed shot, unmarked attacking opponent, misplaced pass, poor touch, misplaced pass, misplaced pass, misplaced pass. How on earth do you pin this on the manager? A majority of the players were absolutely shocking, you can't do much if so called professionals (bar Ashley Williams and at a push Eliasson) all look like they've been on the lash the night before. I have kept quiet about this but it's not the first bad home game where the real difference is opponents execute crisply and accurately, we don't. I felt a lot of that was because the players didn’t know what to do. If you’re under pressure then you’re going to make mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city1983 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 12 hours ago, RUSSEL85 said: We will probably beat Sheffield Wednesday away now I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Super said: He hasnt a clue when setting us up at home and has been like that for a few seasons. And that's the gist of it. We have been the same at home now for the last 2 years. He has no idea how to approach and set up for home games. This isn't a little run of games. It's been 2 years! We will never get top 6 unless we sort out our home form. He has given no indication in the last 2 years he can do it, so why do people think he can now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just now, Andy082005 said: And that's the gist of it. We have been the same at home now for the last 2 years. He has no idea how to approach and set up for home games. This isn't a little run of games. It's been 2 years! We will never get top 6 unless we sort out our home form. He has given no indication in the last 2 years he can do it, so why do people think he can now? It's the big fat elephant in the room that won't go away. I'm surprised he's not questioned or challenged on it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, CotswoldRed said: It's the big fat elephant in the room that won't go away. I'm surprised he's not questioned or challenged on it more. Probally because they are not allowed to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 LJ will never get us promoted and the football is absolute dross..... Still we can all look forward to Connor Wickham joining in January.... FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Allwaysred said: LJ will never get us promoted and the football is absolute dross..... Still we can all look forward to Connor Wickham joining in January.... FFS. How tall is Conor Wickham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 How injury prone is Connor wickham ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.V.F Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Olé said: Oh I do agree with that. I almost added in my post that if people want to blame LJ for anything it's not that the players are making so many mistakes themselves, but that they do so looking overcome by the pressure of what they're supposed to be doing, which I wouldn't expect to be the case with doing the basics right - unless they're seriously over-thinking things. When someone pointed out how many goals we're conceding yesterday in reference to the perception our attack is at fault, I said at the time that it sometimes looks like players are so busy thinking about what they need to do next to aid our complex pattern of attacking play, that they screw up what they're supposed to be doing now with their first touch or pass. Agree with this. If it is indeed the case players cannot handle/accommodate what is required of them, does that also lead to the conclusion we do not have the 'right' players in the squad (as talented as some are), to effectively carry out LJ's philosophy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Olé said: Crikey, did people actually go to the game? Our team of professional footballers made mistakes more or less every minute of the match, probably every 30 seconds of the second half. Misplaced pass, poor touch, unnecessary tackle, bad handling, overhit long ball, missed shot, unmarked attacking opponent, misplaced pass, poor touch, misplaced pass, misplaced pass, misplaced pass. How on earth do you pin this on the manager? A majority of the players were absolutely shocking, you can't do much if so called professionals (bar Ashley Williams and at a push Eliasson) all look like they've been on the lash the night before. I have kept quiet about this but it's not the first bad home game where the real difference is opponents execute crisply and accurately, we don't. Because it is a reflection of the Managers ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, glos old boy said: Maybe him thinking for a change; let them worry about us and lets knock them into the middle of next week and go for thier throats....Pride, Passion and Belief, smash em. Sling the laptop Lee football is simple enough What like 5-2 win, vs Huddersfield two weeks ago you mean? On the simple game, disregard analysis etc. Don't necessarily agree. Teams and tactics to name two have really evolved in recent times. 10 years ago and probably less, the bulk of sides at this level played 4-4-2 with wingers. Far from the case now! It's hard to say what the best tactical solution is but one thing I am sure of us that IF we want to be a side who dominate the ball, then 4-4-2 and certainly a more traditional type is a crap way to go about it these days in the main. Conversely 4-4-2 could be good If we're happy to have less possession but quick and perhaps strongly pressing counterattacking play. Think Millwall two seasons ago or even at times Birmingham under Monk. Unconvinced a side goes up with 4-4-2 now too, or it's quite rare- certainly a more traditional type. Does LJ know definitively what he wants, or is trying to achieve? Have my doubts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, J.V.F said: Agree with this. If it is indeed the case players cannot handle/accommodate what is required of them, does that also lead to the conclusion we do not have the 'right' players in the squad (as talented as some are), to effectively carry out LJ's philosophy? Or perhaps it is his philosophy that is flawed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.V.F Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Or perhaps it is his philosophy is flawed? Yes, perhaps so - either way there seems to be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der no.2 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Olé said: Crikey, did people actually go to the game? Our team of professional footballers made mistakes more or less every minute of the match, probably every 30 seconds of the second half. Misplaced pass, poor touch, unnecessary tackle, bad handling, overhit long ball, missed shot, unmarked attacking opponent, misplaced pass, poor touch, misplaced pass, misplaced pass, misplaced pass. How on earth do you pin this on the manager? A majority of the players were absolutely shocking, you can't do much if so called professionals (bar Ashley Williams and at a push Eliasson) all look like they've been on the lash the night before. I have kept quiet about this but it's not the first bad home game where the real difference is opponents execute crisply and accurately, we don't. Agreed Ole. Also i noticed yesterday that our players seemed not to be enjoying playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 17 hours ago, redsquirrel said: he doesn't look at all bothered by the defeat does he. two games with no spark would get a few managers showing a bit of remorse are you totally off your flipping rocker? what do you want him to do, send you a personalized letter of apology? crawl on his hands and knees begging forgiveness. Of the many people that need to get a grip, you're most certainly one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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