Never to the dark side Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 According to one of the Brentford sites Thought it would have been more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Never to the dark side said: According to one of the Brentford sites Thought it would have been more than that. Quite remarkable according to one fan on brentfords forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 How come they are claiming to of sold out but only 1045 are coming? Surely we offered them more than that, especially as they aren’t renowned for noise or aggro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: How come they are claiming to of sold out but only 1045 are coming? Surely we offered them more than that, especially as they aren’t renowned for noise or aggro. Maybe that’s all the club requested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: Maybe that’s all the club requested? Are away clubs charged for any unsold tickets? I only ask as I assumed that tickets were just sold with no risk to the away team, so I don’t understand why a club would only request a certain amount of tickets if more are available? And it’s not like we are going to sold any unsold tickets in the Atyeo for our own fans, is it? Even the top half of the Atyeo holds more than 1045 supporters doesn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1,045 Bees fans coming tomorrow. That's a mighty big helicopter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Any one else find it frustrating that a club with half our support and lets face it if the roles were reversed today and we were third in the league we would have taken at least 3 times as many fans, yet here we are below them in the table again. I look at them and think a bit Like Bournemouth as well what have they got or are doing that were not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, pillred said: Any one else find it frustrating that a club with half our support and lets face it if the roles were reversed today and we were third in the league we would have taken at least 3 times as many fans, yet here we are below them in the table again. I look at them and think a bit Like Bournemouth as well what have they got or are doing that were not? I am sure there are many Sunderland, Portsmouth, Stoke, etc fans thinking similar thoughts, there is not much correlation between the two things generally. As for Bournemouth, what they had was someone willing to destroy the FFP rules and the luck to achieve promotion before it bit them on the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 48 minutes ago, handsofclay said: 1,045 Bees fans coming tomorrow. That's a mighty big helicopter. Sneaky crafty Cockney raid plans ...surprise approach from the West up the Bristol Channel and over Clevedon.. All our troops caught off guard deployed on M4 and rail networks from the East. Looks like they mean business, chaps, could this be it? Brentford turn nasty at turn of the decade? Apocalypse Now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I am sure there are many Sunderland, Portsmouth, Stoke, etc fans thinking similar thoughts, there is not much correlation between the two things generally. As for Bournemouth, what they had was someone willing to destroy the FFP rules and the luck to achieve promotion before it bit them on the arse. Were they punished at all? didn't know that, seems we might be the only ones that actually stick to the rules, didn't QPR do something similar? and as for the other clubs you mentioned yes it must be frustrating for them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 31, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1045 was their initial allocation, which they have not yet sold out Like mentioned above they haven't asked for anymore as the cost of printing unsold tickets lies with Brentford, so unless the tickets were flying out in advance they wont be asking for anymore now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Slightly off topic but I see City are 11/4 to beat Brentford tomorrow, that's very long odds for a home team, only Newcastle v Leicester 9/2 have longer odds out of all the home teams in all league games tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, weepywall said: Slightly off topic but I see City are 11/4 to beat Brentford tomorrow, that's very long odds for a home team, only Newcastle v Leicester 9/2 have longer odds out of all the home teams in all league games tomorrow. Brentford are odds on favourites with Bet365 and Paddy Power with a load of others offering evens. We are big underdogs for this game according to the bookies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, bcfc01 said: Brentford are odds on favourites with Bet365 and Paddy Power with a load of others offering evens. We are big underdogs for this game according to the bookies... A City and Newcastle double pays 19/1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSTAF Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, phantom said: 1045 was their initial allocation, which they have not yet sold out Like mentioned above they haven't asked for anymore as the cost of printing unsold tickets lies with Brentford, so unless the tickets were flying out in advance they wont be asking for anymore now That is truly shocking. Flying high, two hours up the road should be bringing at least 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, weepywall said: Slightly off topic but I see City are 11/4 to beat Brentford tomorrow, that's very long odds for a home team, only Newcastle v Leicester 9/2 have longer odds out of all the home teams in all league games tomorrow. This game worries me. They have the ability to rip us apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, pillred said: Any one else find it frustrating that a club with half our support and lets face it if the roles were reversed today and we were third in the league we would have taken at least 3 times as many fans, yet here we are below them in the table again. I look at them and think a bit Like Bournemouth as well what have they got or are doing that were not? To be fair, we have been ahead of Brentford after 19 of the 25 games so far this season, 2 of which were the 1st two games of the season and the others the most recent games where they have been on top form and we lost 4 in a row. So despite us having a rubbish striker up front, LJs tombola to pick players, no identity, fans staying away, we are 2 points behind Brentford (who everyone wants to emulate) and 1 point behind Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider_boy Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, grifty said: fans staying away Generally agree with you, but not sure how serious some of your comments in the second line are - I thought our home attendance have been pretty decent this season, c.21k average? LJ's tombola doesn't seem to be getting quite as much use this season. Watkins starting the last game seemed odd, but LJ obviously saw something in training/something he'd been working on with Watkins given he scored after 4 minutes and very nearly scored an identical goal later on too. Of course, if he hadn't scored we would all be moaning about the weird team selection again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longyears Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Brentford have the joint best defensive record in the division - that is why they are odds on favourites ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, weepywall said: Slightly off topic but I see City are 11/4 to beat Brentford tomorrow, that's very long odds for a home team, only Newcastle v Leicester 9/2 have longer odds out of all the home teams in all league games tomorrow. You might be interested to know that home wins are becoming less likely for a lot of sides. Probably reflects the relative evenness of the division and tactical trends. The average home win % in the Championship this season is 45% or so I read online. My rough calculations had it lower but regardless it's somewhere between 40-45%...below 50% certainly! Means that for every 20 Championship games, only 8-9, possibly 10 at a push result in a home win this season. Strikingly low, wouldn't you say? Possibly reflected in the odds to an extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Brentford take a good average of their home attendances to away games - around 10% or so which is a better percentage than us. 1045 for tomorrows game is about right. As for our attendances, based on tickets sold the average is 21,742 which puts us 9th in the division. Not bad at all. Superfluous as to how many are in the ground - the average paying support is 21,742. (surprised to see Huddersfield and Cardiff getting such good support) Championship average attendance Home attendances Average home attendance Lowest Highest Total Capacity * %Full 1 Leeds Utd 35,198 34,552 35,731 422,379 37,890 92.9% 2 Nottm Forest 27,681 24,577 29,314 304,492 30,445 90.9% 3 Derby County 26,569 24,697 28,454 318,829 33,600 79.1% 4 West Brom 24,054 21,803 25,566 264,590 26,445 91.0% 5 Sheffield Wed 23,922 22,059 28,028 287,070 39,752 60.2% 6 Stoke City 22,779 20,216 25,359 296,133 27,740 82.1% 7 Cardiff City 22,690 20,884 24,724 272,286 33,280 68.2% 8 Huddersfield 22,142 20,062 23,805 287,840 24,500 90.4% 9 Bristol City 21,742 19,742 23,573 260,903 27,000 80.5% 10 Birmingham City 20,455 18,161 22,059 245,455 30,015 68.2% 11 Middlesbrough 19,805 17,961 25,313 257,467 34,742 57.0% 12 Fulham 18,134 16,856 18,878 235,746 25,700 70.6% 13 Charlton 17,323 13,488 21,808 207,874 27,111 63.9% 14 Swansea City 16,378 14,162 20,270 212,911 20,750 78.9% 15 Reading 15,034 12,495 16,918 180,410 24,161 62.2% 16 Preston 14,010 10,093 19,165 182,135 23,408 59.9% 17 Blackburn 13,977 11,401 18,726 181,703 31,154 44.9% 18 Millwall 13,934 10,021 17,109 153,272 20,146 69.2% 19 QP Rangers 13,822 11,921 16,186 179,682 18,439 75.0% 20 Barnsley 13,720 11,510 17,598 178,361 23,009 59.6% 21 Hull City 11,649 9,826 16,326 151,443 25,404 45.9% 22 Brentford 11,421 10,417 12,305 137,052 12,305 92.8% 23 Wigan Athletic 10,914 8,965 14,819 120,050 25,133 43.4% 24 Luton Town 10,052 10,004 10,068 120,619 10,226 98.3% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Brentford take a good average of their home attendances to away games - around 10% or so which is a better percentage than us. 1045 for tomorrows game is about right. As for our attendances, based on tickets sold the average is 21,742 which puts us 9th in the division. Not bad at all. Superfluous as to how many are in the ground - the average paying support is 21,742. (surprised to see Huddersfield and Cardiff getting such good support) Championship average attendance Home attendances Average home attendance Lowest Highest Total Capacity * %Full 1 Leeds Utd 35,198 34,552 35,731 422,379 37,890 92.9% 2 Nottm Forest 27,681 24,577 29,314 304,492 30,445 90.9% 3 Derby County 26,569 24,697 28,454 318,829 33,600 79.1% 4 West Brom 24,054 21,803 25,566 264,590 26,445 91.0% 5 Sheffield Wed 23,922 22,059 28,028 287,070 39,752 60.2% 6 Stoke City 22,779 20,216 25,359 296,133 27,740 82.1% 7 Cardiff City 22,690 20,884 24,724 272,286 33,280 68.2% 8 Huddersfield 22,142 20,062 23,805 287,840 24,500 90.4% 9 Bristol City 21,742 19,742 23,573 260,903 27,000 80.5% 10 Birmingham City 20,455 18,161 22,059 245,455 30,015 68.2% 11 Middlesbrough 19,805 17,961 25,313 257,467 34,742 57.0% 12 Fulham 18,134 16,856 18,878 235,746 25,700 70.6% 13 Charlton 17,323 13,488 21,808 207,874 27,111 63.9% 14 Swansea City 16,378 14,162 20,270 212,911 20,750 78.9% 15 Reading 15,034 12,495 16,918 180,410 24,161 62.2% 16 Preston 14,010 10,093 19,165 182,135 23,408 59.9% 17 Blackburn 13,977 11,401 18,726 181,703 31,154 44.9% 18 Millwall 13,934 10,021 17,109 153,272 20,146 69.2% 19 QP Rangers 13,822 11,921 16,186 179,682 18,439 75.0% 20 Barnsley 13,720 11,510 17,598 178,361 23,009 59.6% 21 Hull City 11,649 9,826 16,326 151,443 25,404 45.9% 22 Brentford 11,421 10,417 12,305 137,052 12,305 92.8% 23 Wigan Athletic 10,914 8,965 14,819 120,050 25,133 43.4% 24 Luton Town 10,052 10,004 10,068 120,619 10,226 98.3% Disappointing figures for Blackburn IMO. They`re having a pretty good season and will have plenty of away support at Ewood Park given how close they are to lots of other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, Cider_boy said: Generally agree with you, but not sure how serious some of your comments in the second line are - I thought our home attendance have been pretty decent this season, c.21k average? LJ's tombola doesn't seem to be getting quite as much use this season. Watkins starting the last game seemed odd, but LJ obviously saw something in training/something he'd been working on with Watkins given he scored after 4 minutes and very nearly scored an identical goal later on too. Of course, if he hadn't scored we would all be moaning about the weird team selection again. Oh I wasn’t being serious in the 2nd paragraph, just picking out some of the more used sticks to beat the club with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 hours ago, handsofclay said: 1,045 Bees fans coming tomorrow. That's a mighty big helicopter. That's a bloody swarm of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 City could easily increase the average attendance of 21,742 by giving more tickets to the away clubs. A lot of clubs wouldn’t take a bigger allocation - eg Luton - but some would fill the Atyeo if tickets were available. Obviously the loss in income, caused by a reduced away allocation, isn’t an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 hours ago, WhistleHappy said: Sneaky crafty Cockney raid plans ...surprise approach from the West up the Bristol Channel and over Clevedon.. All our troops caught off guard deployed on M4 and rail networks from the East. Looks like they mean business, chaps, could this be it? Brentford turn nasty at turn of the decade? Apocalypse Now? Oh no. I’ve gone all nostalgic..... More years ago than I care to remember. Christmas Eve. The Granary. Bristol’s finest take the stage. Colonel Kilgore’s then thrashed their way through several fun filled hours of surfadelic rockabilly.... I’m back there now. Oh to be young again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, weepywall said: Slightly off topic but I see City are 11/4 to beat Brentford tomorrow, that's very long odds for a home team, only Newcastle v Leicester 9/2 have longer odds out of all the home teams in all league games tomorrow. Millwall were the same price to beat them the other day 19 minutes ago, pongo88 said: City could easily increase the average attendance of 21,742 by giving more tickets to the away clubs. A lot of clubs wouldn’t take a bigger allocation - eg Luton - but some would fill the Atyeo if tickets were available. Obviously the loss in income, caused by a reduced away allocation, isn’t an issue. We don't give the away club the maximum amount as we like to keep Ashton Gate as a fortress, we would obviously get less points at home if the away end was filled with noisy fans..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 The only downside of reduced allocations- and it's about 2,300- is that it's a race to the bottom. Or could be anyway. OTOH I can see the upside of course- away from the pitch, and less in numbers- plus easier for a home club to manage of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: You might be interested to know that home wins are becoming less likely for a lot of sides. Probably reflects the relative evenness of the division and tactical trends. The average home win % in the Championship this season is 45% or so I read online. My rough calculations had it lower but regardless it's somewhere between 40-45%...below 50% certainly! Means that for every 20 Championship games, only 8-9, possibly 10 at a push result in a home win this season. Strikingly low, wouldn't you say? Possibly reflected in the odds to an extent. I always do a Championship Accy with 4 home wins , 4 draws and 4 aways . It’s amazing how often this occurs . As yet I’ve never managed to get the correct matches to fit the formula, but it will happen. The odds are always worth a quid to get about £15,000 back , just hope it doesn’t take 15,000 Saturdays to come in ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, wood_red said: Millwall were the same price to beat them the other day We don't give the away club the maximum amount as we like to keep Ashton Gate as a fortress, we would obviously get less points at home if the away end was filled with noisy fans..... Not done too well over recent seasons in general when Atyeo packed with away fans tbf. I don't go away often now but I have to say our away fans represent better than we do at home. Just saying that from my odd away games and mates comments so I really believe a packed Atyeo helps the visitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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