Ron W Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 We've been in this sort of position before and gone on excellent runs out of nowhere. It wouldn't be surprise if that happens again. That said, we could be in the bottom half soon. If he doesn't get a result sharpish I can't think of many reasons to have any hope he'll turn it round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Tbf only GJ has taken us to a position as high as his son has, and the football he played certainly wasn’t great Well Jimmy Lumsden took us to a 9th place finish in the second tier in 1991 ... I’d say that’s on a par with LJ ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Well Jimmy Lumsden took us to a 9th place finish in the second tier in 1991 ... I’d say that’s on a par with LJ ... 8th is higher than 9th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, RedEyez said: Don’t really think he can be held accountable for individual errors and a sending off which was essentially our downfall . Thought we played quite well with 10 men at times He's a football manager. It's the territory. Individual errors continuously happening are a sign of a greater malaise within the squad. Watching games live it seems to me we are brittle and that certain players seem favoured and undroppable whilst others seem to be hooked far too easily. Not a meritocracy basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, Notbarrymanc said: The best manager we’ve had in my life time. Get rid because he’s Going through a dip in form How old are you 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notbarrymanc Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, city1983 said: Joe Jordan. gary johnson steve cotterill probably danny Wilson Johnson certainly not the worst manager we’ve ever had but plenty of better managers playing better football I really hope you’re not being serious. None of the above have anything like the track record Lee has. You only need to look at seasonal finishes. Unfortunately this seems like another case of don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone, just like we had with GJ way back when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, JBFC II said: 8th is higher than 9th Yes, but circumstances and situations were sooooo different - an equal achievement in my eyes - and we won more games in that 1990/1991 season than LJ did last season - totally admit I’m clutching at straws and dodgy stats to support my point - but it has to be recognised that LJ has been given more support from the owner than any other manager in our history - even relatively speaking - so to me Jimmy Lumsden’s achievement was as impressive as anything LJ has done - and I know it was a fair old time ago but Alan Dicks’ achievements also put LJ in his shadow, although it has to be said that Dicks did enjoy a fair amount of loyalty from the club’s hierarchy at the time - but it wasn’t as fashionable to change manager several times a season back then so most managers were given fairly long term support ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, RonWalker said: We've been in this sort of position before and gone on excellent runs out of nowhere. It wouldn't be surprise if that happens again. That said, we could be in the bottom half soon. If he doesn't get a result sharpish I can't think of many reasons to have any hope he'll turn it round. You've contradicted yourself there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 Thoughts? We’re on a bad run and have failings / shortcomings as a team (as do every team). But 6 games ago we were 4th - which was a sign of success. IMO you can’t sack your manager after 5 losses that is knee jerk, fickle, foolish, deluded etc. If you wanted Johnson out 6 games ago when we were fourth then there’s no hope for you. LJ needs backing in Jan and for the rest of the season then we’ll see where we’re at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 Johnson straight red card at the end of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: You've contradicted yourself there Sort of, but I'm saying it could happen, that doesn't mean it will. The longer things go south the less faith I think we can have that LJ will pull it out of the bag again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 We are 2 points off the playoff's and the top six place LJ supposedly can never deliver. We have progressed our league position every season he has been in charge. We are on points to games the 16th best team in the whole country in the last calendar year. LJ is like Wenger at Arsenal, Moyes at West Ham or Mick McCarthy at Ipswich totally under appreciated for for he has done - the idea we can get a new manager who guaranteed to improve us or take us t the next level is so ridiculous and naive. Not to mention the potential upheaval change in staff and restructuring the players to suit the new mans style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, brad blit said: Generally speaking im in the LJ stay camp, our squad has never been so talented and it’s only a bad patch like any team can have. However it’s becoming very obvious the “fluid, fast paced, attacking” football we once had has gone, and this new ‘ lets be solid, frustrate the opposition and sneak wins by odd moments of individual quality’ is wearing thin to everyone. LJ will be here untill summer, but I have a feeling he’ll be gone on then as I can’t see us being in the Top 6 which will be SL minimum requirement The thing with this let's be solid thing is patently not working. How many goals have we shipped in at home now? With this style of play nothing is going to change anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 LJ in before the game and LJ in after the game my only negative point after today was I thought Taylor Moore should have started over Williams ( I said that before the game by the way ) as he is more equipped to deal with Brentford’s pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: LJ in before the game and LJ in after the game my only negative point after today was I thought Taylor Moore should have started over Williams ( I said that before the game by the way ) as he is more equipped to deal with Brentford’s pace We seemed better ( more solid) earlier in the season with Kalas and Moore at the centre of a back 4 and Nagy just in front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, BCFC Richard said: We are 2 points off the playoff's and the top six place LJ supposedly can never deliver. We have progressed our league position every season he has been in charge. We are on points to games the 16th best team in the whole country in the last calendar year. LJ is like Wenger at Arsenal, Moyes at West Ham or Mick McCarthy at Ipswich totally under appreciated for for he has done - the idea we can get a new manager who guaranteed to improve us or take us t the next level is so ridiculous and naive. Not to mention the potential upheaval change in staff and restructuring the players to suit the new mans style. So are you actually implying we stick with LJ to make that next step?? If so you are clearly blinkered.... If you went to Charlton boxing day you would have witnessed a deeper problem in the camp and once that happens you either normally remove the players who have questioned the managers tactics or the manager goes. Personally we're in a catch 22 so get loans in if we can and see where we end up but to move forward LJ and Co have to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Red Exile said: His father arrived with a track record of success, and delivered. His son isn't in the same league. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, kevinmabbuttshair said: Like father like son Not quite fair on Johnson Snr. He worked a minor miracle on a then shoe string budget, as opposed to Johnson Jnr who has spent more and more year on year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, kevinmabbuttshair said: Like father like son Certainly true with the dull, pedestrian and uninspired football they serve up............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, formerly known as ivan said: Not quite fair on Johnson Snr. He worked a minor miracle on a then shoe string budget, as opposed to Johnson Jnr who has spent more and more year on year. I think he said he needed three windows to sort out the team , withstanding the players we have sold , I think this is his eighth coming up , shouldn’t be long now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 47 minutes ago, northsomersetred said: Not my quotes but sums the little tosser up 'The Peter Principle. Managers are over promoted until they pass their level of competence. Senior was a short jovial man with a larger than life demeanour, Junior is a short man' 'This is in stark contrast to the last manager whom ALL players had full respect for whether they were playing or not. Junior is spiteful and ducks players over to prove a point. Players previously knew what to expect and what was required (including fans).. these days I think many just expect the worst.' 'It's a naturally not nice personality mixed with having the pish ripped out of him growing up, due to his height, added with a dash of nobody taking him seriously as an adult, due to his height, which has caused it tbf.' What a cock you are..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoPal Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 The clueless little 'big man' isn't half as clever as he thinks he is. Time is up LJ, but SL will never dismiss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northsomersetred Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 oh dear. littleman syndrome strikes again https://twitter.com/declinedpayment/status/1212422934607863811?s=12&fbclid=IwAR3CuGQmbS1jV9JmsCttvpFiWnsDW0xlTFW-NA5HGR29nT5qcjsPMmKrVj0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: Certainly true with the dull, pedestrian and uninspired football they serve up............ You took your time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Red Exile said: His father arrived with a track record of success, and delivered. His son isn't in the same league. And did pretty well for us - was also sacked in a higher position than we are now I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 56 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Name a manager who’s been allowed to spend as much on transfers and sign as many players in the last 30 years? Name a manger who’s raised as much revenue for the club as LJ - not just the last 30 years either - ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Name a manger who’s raised as much revenue for the club as LJ - not just the last 30 years either - ever. Points get you promoted, not self generated income. Good coach probably, good manager less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 Johnson out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Domingo Roldan Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 Will hold the club back for years. You will find most of them at Bristol Magistrates recently being fined for blocking the M32. Anti-democracratic & suck seeds through straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Domingo Roldan Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 * democratic even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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