bcfc01 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 ..Losing 0-4 at half time home to Manchester City. Cements them in the bottom three. Hope we see them next year and hopefully they get a nice welcome from the EFL re their dubious FFP activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, bcfc01 said: ..Losing 0-4 at half time home to Manchester City. Cements them in the bottom three. Hope we see them next year and hopefully they get a nice welcome from the EFL re their dubious FFP activities. Be interesting to see if the EFL takes appropriate action. Interesting also Bournemouth also could face problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 I hope we don't see them next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Love to see it!! Their injuries, their current position plus of course, the effect on morale if they get a real hammering here, will set up a tough old final stint to the season for them...let's hope Watford continue to pull away, pile more pressure on Aston Villa and increase their chances of rejoining the EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 punk Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 i am enjoying every second of aston villa's decline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Absolutely loving watching this. Apart from the Gas I hate their arrogant bell-end fans with a passion. Hope Man City get another 4 second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Yeah.....Villa getting torn apart by Man City.........a joy to watch............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: Yeah.....Villa getting torn apart by Man City.........a joy to watch............... Hopefully Man City don’t take their foot off the throttle too much second half! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: I hope we don't see them next season Now THAT would be the cherry on top of the promotion cake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 5. Keep going, MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Can’t stand villa , always do villa on the train , nice short trip. Although we don’t play well or get results up there ! We want 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, AppyDAZE said: 5. Keep going, MC It took Pep and his boys two games and 180 minutes plus added time to put this many past Flinty, Frankie and co... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Got no interest in Villa coming down. They are blatantly better than us whereas clubs like Watford we would have a chance of finishing above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 With Watford on the rise, Bournemouth on the slide, Vile losing 5 or 6 to Man City, hurting the goal difference, the bottom 3 might be set as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Got no interest in Villa coming down. They are blatantly better than us whereas clubs like Watford we would have a chance of finishing above If the EFL get their act together and Villa come down, they could end up with a penalty that sends them to League 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Love it! They spent an absolute bucket load in the summer on some pretty random and average players and it's great to watch them fail horribly. If we ever reach the prem we'd approach it like Burnley have, and I'm sure, build a cohesive squad and improve slowly year on year. I love when so called big clubs have a fall from grace and think the only thing they have to do is throw money at it and they will relive the glory days and it doesn't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Got no interest in Villa coming down. They are blatantly better than us whereas clubs like Watford we would have a chance of finishing above Cheats shouldn't prosper though, don't you agree? The points penalty they'd be looking at if true could be 11 pts at best, maybe 15-20 pts...think they'd struggle to get above us then? Down down deeper and down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, bcfc01 said: If the EFL get their act together and Villa come down, they could end up with a penalty that sends them to League 1... Is that realistic? Genuine question btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Drinkwater has been embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, lenred said: Is that realistic? Genuine question btw. 15-20 pts could push them into a relegation scrap. Who knows who they would lose in the summer too- not sure they'd go down again but it could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: 15-20 pts could push them into a relegation scrap. Indeed. But how will they receive the reduction in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 Man City are in cruise control. 6 up no need to press the accelerator............... Shame really I’d love to see them put another 3 or 4 past Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, lenred said: Indeed. But how will they receive the reduction in the first place? Well it's not guaranteed but there is a strong feeling that they breached FFP. There are doubts about the validity of their stadium sale...their losses will have been huge. They list as an operating figure £50m or maybe it was more in 2017/18 and that was with £33m of parachute payments! I saw a £60m loss for last season mooted. Some will of course have been deductible- academy etc but based on precedent, for an exceeding of their loss of say £15m over the limit over 3 years- and they would be, that's 12 points. Deliberate breach, that's another 3. Escalating losses- well maybe that could be another charge but it could also be included under 'Deliberate'? You might knock off one for compliance with say soft embargo in 2018 summer window, while there were issues but that's up for debate- that could've been for tax bill and not FFP. So it's a matter of opinion. Or it could simply be all included under an aggravated breach- 12 + 9-1. Loss limit alone looks like 12 though and being conservative I'd say 11 minimum. Also don't forget the other clubs...Birmingham for the heinous offence of under £10m, over, admitting to it and signing Pedersen under a soft embargo, possibly escalated due to other clubs anger. Got 9 points and some rolling transfer restrictions. Well imagine what the rest of the Championship will think of Aston Villa and their actions as they lost quite a bit more and benefitted financially from their promotion...the League is ultimately run by the clubs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider hoss rules Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Drinkwater has been embarrassing. I'm sure the commentator said he'd only played 3 PL games in 21 months....... all against City! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Well it's not guaranteed but there is a strong feeling that they breached FFP. There are doubts about the validity of their stadium sale...their losses will have been huge. They list as an operating figure £50m or maybe it was more in 2017/18 and that was with £33m of parachute payments! I saw a £60m loss for last season mooted. Some will of course have been deductible- academy etc but based on precedent, for an exceeding of their loss of say £15m over the limit over 3 years- and they would be, that's 12 points. Deliberate breach, that's another 3. Escalating losses- well maybe that could be another charge but it could also be included under 'Deliberate'? You can knock off one for compliance with say soft embargo in 2018 summer window, while there were issues but that's up for debate. Or it could simply be all included under an aggravated breach- 12 + 9-1. Loss limit alone looks like 12 though and being conservative I'd say 11 minimum. Thanks. Will the EFL enforce it though after they’ve been out of the league for a season? Or will they just brush it under the carpet? Would take balls to charge them imo and the EFL don’t have a great track record on that score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, lenred said: Thanks. Will the EFL enforce it though after they’ve been out of the league for a season? Or will they just brush it under the carpet? Would take balls to charge them imo and the EFL don’t have a great track record on that score. Even the EFL under Harvey- who was pretty woeful in a lot of respects and frankly not the ideal man for the EFL CEO role-pursued Bournemouth for their fine and Leicester for theirs, and was dogged with QPR. Rick Parry and possibly even Debbie Jevans strike me as significantly different to Harvey. All of this clampdown has accelerated since the former (Harvey) went and the latter 2 arrived/stepped up. Only time will tell of course though. Put it this way, just a personal view, but IF Harvey was still in charge, I reckon Bury would have been allowed to start the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 (SIX) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, kivsy said: Can’t stand villa , always do villa on the train , nice short trip. Although we don’t play well or get results up there ! We want 6 Wish granted. Now let's have 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 How much do they want for Aguero . He’d do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Even the EFL under Harvey- who was pretty woeful in a lot of respects and frankly not the ideal man for the EFL CEO role-pursued Bournemouth for their fine and Leicester for theirs, and was dogged with QPR. Rick Parry and possibly even Debbie Jevans strike me as significantly different to Harvey. All of this clampdown has accelerated since the former (Harvey) went and the latter 2 arrived/stepped up. Only time will tell of course though. Well here’s hoping that they a) go down and then b) get the punishment they deserve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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