CotswoldRed Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fjmcity said: Does he though, does he really? or is he taking a longer term view of the performance of his asset and will judge in due course what is right for said asset. he ain’t stupid, and that’s why Johnson is still in a job. He doesn't get a free pass on stupidity because he's rich. Not from me and certainly not when it comes to his football decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: 1 point off the play offs. Whilst our league position can’t be denied , Fulham, Weds, Millwall, Swansea, Forest and Brentford have all changed their management teams in the last 12-14 months and they are all above us . Yes some have changed for reasons other than sackings but all have refreshed their approach , their coaching and tactics . We’ve stagnated unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: 1 point off the play offs. Be honest with yourself my friend we simply are no where near good enough especially under LJ guidance or lack of..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Badger08 said: Can you see how pathetic and childish you sound calling him a dwarf? Are you a grown man? You're making @FrozenRobin look like Stephen Fry. Chill out, it was a 3rd FA Cup game. What do you see in Lee Johnson? Serious question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, REDOXO said: I agree. What is Long Term here though? I’m not sure, I Get the feeling he is going to have a long look at it at the end of the season to be honest, finishing lower than last year I think would be a real sticking point for steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Some embarrassing characters after a defeat. I would somewhat understand you we're basing this on the overall football we've been playing recently but the self entitled arrogance that we should definitely be beat a team like Shrewsbury is laughable. It's the cup anything can happen we should know this better than anyone. I didn't go but I listened on the radio and Shrewsbury sounded like they played a good game and we didn't take our chances. Doesn't mean LJ should be sacked for this but the pressure is building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 It isn't good enough. If we bring in 2 or 3 this window and we are no better then I'm not sure what can be said to support him. I'd keep him and see how he does. But I see the same mistakes in his teams sheets and tactics. Either he doesn't know that what he does is not right. Or he does, but does it anyway. I didn't watch today but it sounded fairly 50/50 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, bengalcub said: Win on sat and im happy , massive over reaction based on liverpool kids in the next round .... play offs is our aim not fa cup run .... get a grip We lose.......what then? Because believe me, the pressure will be at absolute boiling point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: He doesn't get a free pass on stupidity because he's rich. Not from me and certainly not when it comes to his football decisions. Not saying it’s because he’s rich, just that he’s sensible and sees the culture in other football clubs and previously at his for excessive manager turnover and would like to avoid that. I think if we finish lower than last season will really get him thinking as he is all about progression, albeit happy if it’s slow and sustainable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: His chance conversion ratio is pretty decent actually. Not able to comment tonight having listened on Radio. Thats surprising. It seems like every game he misses from 6 yards out with no one around him haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 I’m joining section82 in their silent protest at the Barnsley game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: We lost a game of football. We did it to 4 or 5 prem teams last year so don’t act like a spoilt child when we lose to a lower league team swings and roundabouts Too many slides though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Fjmcity said: I’m not sure, I Get the feeling he is going to have a long look at it at the end of the season to be honest, finishing lower than last year I think would be a real sticking point for steve Maybe. Finishing 7th is not an option and would be hair splitting!....SL expects top 6 no matter what. But if you are SL right now, you are utterly devastated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Fjmcity said: Not saying it’s because he’s rich, just that he’s sensible and sees the culture in other football clubs and previously at his for excessive manager turnover and would like to avoid that. I think if we finish lower than last season will really get him thinking as he is all about progression, albeit happy if it’s slow and sustainable Sacking LJ would mean we'd given a manager 4 years. That's not knee jerk or akin to the culture you perhaps allude to. He wouldn't be accused of it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tears in rain said: Issue I have with everyone saying 1 point off play offs is that no ones thinking about our track record. Last few years we’ve been 2nd and then 5/6th and still managed to not make the play offs False position yeh maybe, I just think we always fall off the pace and never recruit strongly whilst all the other sides make a push for it. When it really matters at the business end of the season we fall away. Johnson had not built a team with the resilience and toughness both physical and mental to win games of this nature. Tonight was a classic. A game against the best team in world/ Europe/ Premiership at home and we again come up short. He clearly cannot see what is staring him in the face that he has weaknesses that he is unable to sort out. And tragically for us his boss is similarly unable to see them. The sad thing is deep down most of us knew we would lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fjmcity said: Not saying it’s because he’s rich, just that he’s sensible and sees the culture in other football clubs and previously at his for excessive manager turnover and would like to avoid that. I think if we finish lower than last season will really get him thinking as he is all about progression, albeit happy if it’s slow and sustainable Sacking LJ would mean we'd given a manager 4 years. That's not knee jerk or akin to the culture you perhaps allude to. He wouldn't be accused of it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Absolutely no recognition of the wider context here at all. Is Johnson getting the best from this squad? Is he motivating them to win the biggest matches? Does he know his best team? How he wants us to play? Are we making tangible progress any more? Ask yourself those questions before dismissing it as one game. Is he getting the best from his squad ? Who knows , perhaps wait for a new manager that’s comes in , that doesn’t work , then another which doesn’t work ,,,, o whoops Why did I wish for more when I should have been happy with a season on season progression is he motivating them to win big matches?? yes sometimes, look at our results this season does he know his best team he changes for what the situation requires another words depending on the opposition’ i remember watching us under SOD and most fans complaining he never changed his team and never had a plan B but now LJ has it wrong when he rotates are we making progress anymore yes year on year and imo only a fit Afobe or a quick striker away from playing how he wants us to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, glos old boy said: WHO brought him here and played him tonight? so yes its LJ`s fault,,,,,,,,,,,Shrewsbury and just about our best team and no bigger reason not to win, yet still its not LJ`s fault NO MORE EXCUSES. As someone posted earlier who’s scored a good majority of his chances so an off day rather than a regular occurrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, RedRoss said: Some embarrassing characters after a defeat. I would somewhat understand you we're basing this on the overall football we've been playing recently but the self entitled arrogance that we should definitely be beat a team like Shrewsbury is laughable. It's the cup anything can happen we should know this better than anyone. I didn't go but I listened on the radio and Shrewsbury sounded like they played a good game and we didn't take our chances. Doesn't mean LJ should be sacked for this but the pressure is building This is just the latest poor performance. It’s not about the cup,’ shock’ , we are going nowhere, anyone who understands the game can see that. There comes a time when players are tired of the same voice, the same training and the same efforts at motivating - it’s over, sadly it won’t come to the summer, but, it is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Radio Brizz Playing I could Be Happy!!! LMFAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Badger08 said: The most stable this football club has been in the history of me supporting it. Is that all you want? Serious question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Badger08 said: The most stable this football club has been in the history of me supporting it. BECAUSE OF HIM. If we slide, I will take stock then. But I'm looking at us 1 point off playoffs. I would argue it's because of Ashton and Lansdown bit hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Badger08 said: The most stable this football club has been in the history of me supporting it. BECAUSE OF HIM. If we slide, I will take stock then. But I'm looking at us 1 point off playoffs. It isn’t because of him it’s because of lansdown this isn’t a blip this is history repeating itself it happened last season it happened the season it happened the season before that it happened at barnsley it happened at Oldham enough is enough the man just isn’t a very good manager, i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, bengalcub said: Win on sat and im happy , massive over reaction based on liverpool kids in the next round .... play offs is our aim not fa cup run .... get a grip And we won't do either get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Cunnyfunt said: Its the plastic scousers I feel sorry for. Bang goes their big day out in one puff of smoke. Absolutely..........I'm pissed off about the result ,I hate losing, not about the hoops we'd have to jump through to get a ticket to see their ressies ! But as you say, bad day for Bristol plastics eferywhere . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Badger08 said: The most stable this football club has been in the history of me supporting it. BECAUSE OF HIM. If we slide, I will take stock then. But I'm looking at us 1 point off playoffs. But it’s not because of him really is it? It’s because he’s spunked so much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: Is he getting the best from his squad ? Who knows , perhaps wait for a new manager that’s comes in , that doesn’t work , then another which doesn’t work ,,,, o whoops Why did I wish for more when I should have been happy with a season on season progression is he motivating them to win big matches?? yes sometimes, look at our results this season does he know his best team he changes for what the situation requires another words depending on the opposition’ i remember watching us under SOD and most fans complaining he never changed his team and never had a plan B but now LJ has it wrong when he rotates are we making progress anymore yes year on year and imo only a fit Afobe or a quick striker away from playing how he wants us to play A very generous appraisal indeed. By the way, I didn’t have ask “have we made progress?”, I asked “are we making progress any more?”. A subtly but crucially different question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Don't worry you'll get an email from Mark Ashton next week wanting season ticket money well i can tell you what you can ******* shove that up your arse absolute bottle jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said: When it really matters at the business end of the season we fall away. Johnson had not built a team with the resilience and toughness both physical and mental to win games of this nature. Tonight was a classic. A game against the best team in world/ Europe/ Premiership at home and we again come up short. He clearly cannot see what is staring him in the face that he has weaknesses that he is unable to sort out. And tragically for us his boss is similarly unable to see them. The sad thing is deep down most of us knew we would lose. Think I was saying just this to a bunch of mates earlier as well, how many transfer windows has he had to get this squad right etc. So yeh completely agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Whilst our league position can’t be denied , Fulham, Weds, Millwall, Swansea, Forest and Brentford have all changed their management teams in the last 12-14 months and they are all above us . Yes some have changed for reasons other than sackings but all have refreshed their approach , their coaching and tactics . We’ve stagnated unfortunately. So have Cardiff reading qpr MIDDLESBORO, Derby , brum, Huddersfield , Stoke Barnsley and Luton and they are all below us ,,,, do your point is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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