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Major Isewater

LJ challenging SL ?

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In today’s Post 

‘ 'Depends what your ambition is' - Lee Johnson outlines Bristol City's position in the transfer window ‘

Clearly spelling out to SL that we will not get promoted without spending the necessary.

Added a little swipe at M. Ashton before explaining how difficult the January market is.

For all those calling LJ a ‘ Yes man ‘ , Shut up . 

I believe he’s toughening up as he réalisés that his job is on the line.

I believe it will be a very interesting end to this season . 

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I think Dave Fevs mentioned it yesterday too but at the game yesterday, we also discussed whether his refusal to make any subs for so long was his “Steve Cotterill” moment and a message to the board.

What I would say though is that he has been given more than enough resource in the transfer market to put the squad together he wants. 

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His days are numbered, irrespective of our league position at the moment if the season were to start tomorrow in my opinion we would be favourites to go down based on the way we've performed in the last 3 months, I cannot see LJ still being in charge come August 

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10 minutes ago, Kibs said:

I think Dave Fevs mentioned it yesterday too but at the game yesterday, we also discussed whether his refusal to make any subs for so long was his “Steve Cotterill” moment and a message to the board.

What I would say though is that he has been given more than enough resource in the transfer market to put the squad together he wants. 

Could be ....or it could be he just doesn't trust his bench. 

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59 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

In today’s Post 

‘ 'Depends what your ambition is' - Lee Johnson outlines Bristol City's position in the transfer window ‘

Clearly spelling out to SL that we will not get promoted without spending the necessary.

Added a little swipe at M. Ashton before explaining how difficult the January market is.

For all those calling LJ a ‘ Yes man ‘ , Shut up . 

I believe he’s toughening up as he réalisés that his job is on the line.

I believe it will be a very interesting end to this season . 

Lee does this on occasion and if I were being objective and fair it’s the one area I have modicum of sympathy with.

I don’t think it’s a simple framework to comply with and I don’t how easy it would be to did replacement who could.

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45 minutes ago, Kibs said:

I think Dave Fevs mentioned it yesterday too but at the game yesterday, we also discussed whether his refusal to make any subs for so long was his “Steve Cotterill” moment and a message to the board.

What I would say though is that he has been given more than enough resource in the transfer market to put the squad together he wants. 

He brought a quality striker in who got injured. He’s been trying to find an alternative, though free transfers were limited (Rodri) we still haven’t replaced that

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1 hour ago, Major Isewater said:

In today’s Post 

‘ 'Depends what your ambition is' - Lee Johnson outlines Bristol City's position in the transfer window ‘

Clearly spelling out to SL that we will not get promoted without spending the necessary.

Added a little swipe at M. Ashton before explaining how difficult the January market is.

For all those calling LJ a ‘ Yes man ‘ , Shut up . 

I believe he’s toughening up as he réalisés that his job is on the line.

I believe it will be a very interesting end to this season . 

Is there a link to this? It's hard to know who is saying what a d if you are quoting the the post or LJ in places. 

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Interesting that LJ has spoken out 3 times in the last couple of weeks, clearly saying that the recruitment is all down to Ashton. 
 

I’ve made the point on here many times but people seem keen to not want to believe it. It’s all too easy to berate the manager for all of the signings. 
Most people’s argument against me was that LJ never says anything about the transfer policy, never speaks out about his frustration. 
 

Well, he’s very subtly hinted about it 3 times this last week or so and putting the pressure onto Ashton to deliver. 
 

Perhaps people will start to realise now that it’s Ashton’s responsibility and LJ only plays a small role in the identification, recruitment and ratification of incomings. 
 

 

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9 minutes ago, 054123 said:

I don’t think it’s a simple framework to comply with and I don’t how easy it would be to did replacement who could.

It is simple enough to LJ who clearly understands the ‘sustainability’ policy from SL. Very few other managers would accept that policy - SC for example and why SL trusts LJ 

Those who call for LJs head should be careful what they wish for.

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His team, his players, his everything! Can’t argue about the current league position but the boring stuff we have endured so long is about team Management! The coach is on another of his bad spells. Good to get the three points yesterday but the middle of the field was the big problem again, plenty of skill there but not enough belief.

we get the points and the team are rewarded - watch social media the next 10 days, they will be having a ball on the money many of them have not earned - has to change, starting at the top with a Coach or Manager that can get the respect of the players!

Lots being said about lack of subs yesterday, how many of those on the bench could or would have changed the game? And would the couch have messed it up again, with his recent record, most likely!

luckily for him it was the sub that set the goal in motion - a midfielder we don’t see enough of, constantly not allowed to show what he can do as he’s not played in his best position.

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12 minutes ago, Harry said:

Interesting that LJ has spoken out 3 times in the last couple of weeks, clearly saying that the recruitment is all down to Ashton. 
 

I’ve made the point on here many times but people seem keen to not want to believe it. It’s all too easy to berate the manager for all of the signings. 
Most people’s argument against me was that LJ never says anything about the transfer policy, never speaks out about his frustration. 
 

Well, he’s very subtly hinted about it 3 times this last week or so and putting the pressure onto Ashton to deliver. 
 

Perhaps people will start to realise now that it’s Ashton’s responsibility and LJ only plays a small role in the identification, recruitment and ratification of incomings. 
 

 

Hang on there...don’t go saying stuff like that....you’ll have some all over you like a rash about your pro LJ agenda. Take off those rose tinted glass sir!

No seriously, I think you could well be right, there seems to have been historically, and maybe still is (Kasey Palmer) some disparity between LJ and MA on transfers. It’s improved recently, but clearly LJ feels like he’s had enough of taking all the responsibility for the success of our transfer policy when perhaps he doesn’t have anywhere near all the say. 

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We put all our eggs in the Nketiah basket as a loan striker, while Swansea have got Rhian Brewster, who looks the real deal up front.

i have some sympathy for LJ in that his frontline still doesn’t play together that well, one exception yesterday being the one that Fam blazed over after Weimann’s intelligent cross. The Afobe injury was a massive blow and if we don’t get anybody in January, and Afobe is still out come March or April, I could understand his frustration.

However I am still in the camp that I don’t think LJ has what it takes to get us to the Premiership, even if we did make the playoffs.

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9 minutes ago, dave36 said:

His team, his players, his everything! Can’t argue about the current league position but the boring stuff we have endured so long is about team Management! The coach is on another of his bad spells. Good to get the three points yesterday but the middle of the field was the big problem again, plenty of skill there but not enough belief.

we get the points and the team are rewarded - watch social media the next 10 days, they will be having a ball on the money many of them have not earned - has to change, starting at the top with a Coach or Manager that can get the respect of the players!

Lots being said about lack of subs yesterday, how many of those on the bench could or would have changed the game? And would the couch have messed it up again, with his recent record, most likely!

luckily for him it was the sub that set the goal in motion - a midfielder we don’t see enough of, constantly not allowed to show what he can do as he’s not played in his best position.

COYR

working at the airport and have already seen many of the players flying out this morning. Points win prizes and as long as the points are coming its hard to see Lansdown changing things. He cant cash in a good performance but another 3 points on the board  could be worth so much.

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1 hour ago, Major Isewater said:

In today’s Post 

‘ 'Depends what your ambition is' - Lee Johnson outlines Bristol City's position in the transfer window ‘

Clearly spelling out to SL that we will not get promoted without spending the necessary.

Added a little swipe at M. Ashton before explaining how difficult the January market is.

For all those calling LJ a ‘ Yes man ‘ , Shut up . 

I believe he’s toughening up as he réalisés that his job is on the line.

I believe it will be a very interesting end to this season . 

I had heard that he had 3 games to sort it out or he would be gone, whatever sorting it out meant but winning yesterday probably means his tenure is safe for now

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23 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

He brought a quality striker in who got injured. He’s been trying to find an alternative, though free transfers were limited (Rodri) we still haven’t replaced that

I think this might be part of the problem, Johnson said earlier this month that Afobe   remains our player, so presumably we are paying his wages.

1 minute ago, Dr Balls said:

We put all our eggs in the Nketiah basket as a loan striker, while Swansea have got Rhian Brewster, who looks the real deal up front.

i have some sympathy for LJ in that his frontline still doesn’t play together that well, one exception yesterday being the one that Fam blazed over after Weimann’s intelligent cross. The Afobe injury was a massive blow and if we don’t get anybody in January, and Afobe is still out come March or April, I could understand his frustration.

However I am still in the camp that I don’t think LJ has what it takes to get us to the Premiership, even if we did make the playoffs.

You seriously believe that the club just look at one player at a time? The only people putting all their eggs in one basket, were on this forum.

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2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I think this might be part of the problem, Johnson said earlier this month that Afobe   remains our player, so presumably we are paying his wages.

You seriously believe that the club just look at one player at a time? The only people putting all their eggs in one basket, were on this forum.

So were we in for Brewster or did the Ryan Kent episode scupper our chances of getting a loan from Liverpool?

It’s all gone very quiet from the club about bringing anyone in up front, only Rodri leaving. That could be good news that Afobe might be back sooner than originally thought. But “limited options” up front is a valid gripe from LJ, with only Semenyo on the bench, who has shown little evidence that he can play at this level.

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Some people are so blinded it’s unreal!

LJ trying to send a message to Lansdown about needing to spend on transfers.

LJ not trusting the players on the bench... they are players he signed ffs!!!

Put the two together and what do you get... an owner fed up of seeing his money thrown away on players who LJ then decides he doesn’t want!

People are quick to point out the money raised by transfers yet chose to ignore the money LJ has been given to spend on players he doesn’t even think are good enough!

Hopefully Lansdown is planning on seeing out this season, keep the money this month and give it to the new manager in the summer.

Edit: Haven’t seen anything regarding Palmer yesterday. Why was he not even on the bench?

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38 minutes ago, BCFC Richard said:

Is there a link to this? It's hard to know who is saying what a d if you are quoting the the post or LJ in places. 

The quote is in quotation marks .

Sorry I should have put a link in but I’m not up to OTIB standards and will probably be replaced on here if we get promoted.

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1 hour ago, Galway Red said:

His days are numbered, irrespective of our league position at the moment if the season were to start tomorrow in my opinion we would be favourites to go down based on the way we've performed in the last 3 months, I cannot see LJ still being in charge come August 

Last 3 months = 20 points from 15 games. Not great, but not relegation form.

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41 minutes ago, Harry said:

Interesting that LJ has spoken out 3 times in the last couple of weeks, clearly saying that the recruitment is all down to Ashton. 
 

I’ve made the point on here many times but people seem keen to not want to believe it. It’s all too easy to berate the manager for all of the signings. 
Most people’s argument against me was that LJ never says anything about the transfer policy, never speaks out about his frustration. 
 

Well, he’s very subtly hinted about it 3 times this last week or so and putting the pressure onto Ashton to deliver. 
 

Perhaps people will start to realise now that it’s Ashton’s responsibility and LJ only plays a small role in the identification, recruitment and ratification of incomings. 
 

 

I listened to LJ on the radio as I drove back yesterday...and for all my scepticism about him I'm increasingly with you on this. 

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2 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

I do think that Matty Taylor needs to come back. Him on the bench yesterday would have given LJ some options, and would have been just the sort of game Taylor could have influenced on 70 minutes. Get him home.

Taylor won’t be coming back. 
Even if by the remotest of remote chances he did there is no way of knowing what sort of mind set he would bring with him.

 He is , of course, a pro but also a human being. He is happy where he is , at his home town club , getting game time and scoring goals . Does anyone really think that he’d bust a gut for City if he returned ?

 

No doubt Matty and Oxford would love to make the deal permanent so let’s move on . He is considered surplus to requirements at Ashton Gate and we need to find his replacement for everyone’s good . 

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2 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Some people are so blinded it’s unreal!

LJ trying to send a message to Lansdown about needing to spend on transfers.

LJ not trusting the players on the bench... they are players he signed ffs!!!

Put the two together and what do you get... an owner fed up of seeing his money thrown away on players who LJ then decides he doesn’t want!

People are quick to point out the money raised by transfers yet chose to ignore the money LJ has been given to spend on players he doesn’t even think are good enough!

Hopefully Lansdown is planning on seeing out this season, keep the money this month and give it to the new manager in the summer.

One thing I do find very hard to believe is that LJ would have created his own problem by signing Smodicz and Palmer when we already had Paterson (who seemed bamboozled to find himself at Derby). If it comes out for all that MA was directly responsible for the KP signing I wouldn’t be surprised.

Ashton is clearly a top negotiator but he is also full of shit and his own biggest fan from what I can see. Some of the BS he comes out with such as that DNA claptrap is utterly cringeworthy on the simple basis that it has proven to be so wrong.

I think some people are getting blinded by a hatred for LJ to bash him for stuff that simply isn’t his doing.

MA and dare I say the owner are not whiter than white in terms of how the club is run (however it’s the owners money so he can do as he pleases, get that).

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We can speculate on here but none of us really knows the truth about what’s happening with transfers... I believe ashton is targeting players with the potential for profits on future transfers, and this stance has been set up by lansdown.

these aren’t necessarily players that lj needs, but the fact is our squad is full of less physical ball playing mid fielders, and 1 left back and 2 main strikers.

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4 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

We can speculate on here but none of us really knows the truth about what’s happening with transfers... I believe ashton is targeting players with the potential for profits on future transfers, and this stance has been set up by lansdown.

these aren’t necessarily players that lj needs, but the fact is our squad is full of less physical ball playing mid fielders, and 1 left back and 2 main strikers.

Good point. It does sometimes seem that our squad is more of an investment portfolio than a team.

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1 minute ago, Simon bristol said:

We can speculate on here but none of us really knows the truth about what’s happening with transfers... I believe ashton is targeting players with the potential for profits on future transfers, and this stance has been set up by lansdown.

these aren’t necessarily players that lj needs, but the fact is our squad is full of less physical ball playing mid fielders, and 1 left back and 2 main strikers.

100% this. We have so many bang average (at Championship level and that’s what counts for us) midfield players it’s embarrassing and they are with us solely on the basis they will “hopefully” make us a penny or two.

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13 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

100% this. We have so many bang average (at Championship level and that’s what counts for us) midfield players it’s embarrassing and they are with us solely on the basis they will “hopefully” make us a penny or two.

Yes, the signing of palmer after smodzics signed bore that out.. thats 4.5 million for people not actually even in the squad, competing with odowda who got a new contract to maintain his transfer value and pato who was already on the books too.

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1 hour ago, Harry said:

Interesting that LJ has spoken out 3 times in the last couple of weeks, clearly saying that the recruitment is all down to Ashton. 
 

I’ve made the point on here many times but people seem keen to not want to believe it. It’s all too easy to berate the manager for all of the signings. 
Most people’s argument against me was that LJ never says anything about the transfer policy, never speaks out about his frustration. 
 

Well, he’s very subtly hinted about it 3 times this last week or so and putting the pressure onto Ashton to deliver. 
 

Perhaps people will start to realise now that it’s Ashton’s responsibility and LJ only plays a small role in the identification, recruitment and ratification of incomings. 
 

 

Actually, if you listen to the 10 minute press conference, he doesn’t say that at all. 

4mins 50 onwards in the press conference LJ says, and I quote - “The talent ID is down to me”

He goes on to say the negotiations etc are down to MA. 

I’m not sure why you are so desperate to relinquish any responsibility from LJ for the signings we have made?

29 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

I listened to LJ on the radio as I drove back yesterday...and for all my scepticism about him I'm increasingly with you on this. 

Listen to the 10 minute press conference

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38 minutes ago, Dr Balls said:

So were we in for Brewster or did the Ryan Kent episode scupper our chances of getting a loan from Liverpool?

It’s all gone very quiet from the club about bringing anyone in up front..

I would have no Idea who our targets are, as far as Brewster is concerned, I believe someone on here mentioned their coach worked with our U18s? Which would give them some advantages.All I know is that Ashton said that all the deals are always being worked on, transfer window or no.

As for your second point, the club never discloses it’s targets, everything we think we know comes from speculation and leaks. Maybe they have got better at keeping secrets?

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2 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

In today’s Post 

‘ 'Depends what your ambition is' - Lee Johnson outlines Bristol City's position in the transfer window ‘

Clearly spelling out to SL that we will not get promoted without spending the necessary.

Added a little swipe at M. Ashton before explaining how difficult the January market is.

For all those calling LJ a ‘ Yes man ‘ , Shut up . 

I believe he’s toughening up as he réalisés that his job is on the line.

I believe it will be a very interesting end to this season . 

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1 hour ago, Kibs said:

I think Dave Fevs mentioned it yesterday too but at the game yesterday, we also discussed whether his refusal to make any subs for so long was his “Steve Cotterill” moment and a message to the board.

What I would say though is that he has been given more than enough resource in the transfer market to put the squad together he wants. 

No, wasn’t me, but I did think he delayed and delayed and delayed making a sub because the game could’ve gone either way.  In some ways why break up the eleven on the pitch, who are tuned into the game.  So he left it late, 5 mins from the end.  I was a bit critical of it last night, but on reflection this morning, I probably would’ve done similar.

1 hour ago, Harry said:

Interesting that LJ has spoken out 3 times in the last couple of weeks, clearly saying that the recruitment is all down to Ashton. 
 

I’ve made the point on here many times but people seem keen to not want to believe it. It’s all too easy to berate the manager for all of the signings. 
Most people’s argument against me was that LJ never says anything about the transfer policy, never speaks out about his frustration. 
 

Well, he’s very subtly hinted about it 3 times this last week or so and putting the pressure onto Ashton to deliver. 
 

Perhaps people will start to realise now that it’s Ashton’s responsibility and LJ only plays a small role in the identification, recruitment and ratification of incomings. 
 

 

Depends what you’re calling recruitment Harry?  If you’re talking about doing the deal, I don’t think any of us doubt that MA’s job, and SL signs off the £s.

But you’ve previously stated that he’s been given players he doesn’t want.

This was LJ yesterday:

"That bit [securing targets] is not down to me. Without putting too much pressure on Mark Ashton, that’s his job. The pressure of winning football matches and the talent ID is down to me but it’s his job to do his very best.

"I just think that there’s not much moving because it’s like a house chain.

Here’s the link:

That to me is pretty clear that Lee is heavily involved in identifying the players within the “process”, and he’s said often enough that he has final say.  I think absolving Lee for the players we have and blaming MA is disingenuous.

Don't get me wrong, pressure on MA to actually get players over the line.

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2 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

In today’s Post 

‘ 'Depends what your ambition is' - Lee Johnson outlines Bristol City's position in the transfer window ‘

Clearly spelling out to SL that we will not get promoted without spending the necessary.

Added a little swipe at M. Ashton before explaining how difficult the January market is.

For all those calling LJ a ‘ Yes man ‘ , Shut up . 

I believe he’s toughening up as he réalisés that his job is on the line.

I believe it will be a very interesting end to this season . 

Agree to some what. However if LJ hasn’t toughened up by now and got the balls to challenge SL then why is LJ still at the club. The January market is claimed to be “difficult” but they probably always are. I do not think LJ is a yes man but if only know he has startled to grow some balls its probably to late for us this season. In November and December it was lets wait too January voiced by many on OTIB and it is now January the 19th and if any of you are aware that we made a significant signing I must of missed some thing I stand corrected. OK we have just won a few games with a clean sheet but can any of you honestly say you are happy with the recent performances over the last two months and hand on hearts if we do make the play offs we will get promoted. It will be a very interesting end to the season but the bigger picture like Prem football is what we all want, wish for and need.

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1 hour ago, Harry said:

Interesting that LJ has spoken out 3 times in the last couple of weeks, clearly saying that the recruitment is all down to Ashton. 
 

I’ve made the point on here many times but people seem keen to not want to believe it. It’s all too easy to berate the manager for all of the signings. 
Most people’s argument against me was that LJ never says anything about the transfer policy, never speaks out about his frustration. 
 

Well, he’s very subtly hinted about it 3 times this last week or so and putting the pressure onto Ashton to deliver. 
 

Perhaps people will start to realise now that it’s Ashton’s responsibility and LJ only plays a small role in the identification, recruitment and ratification of incomings. 
 

 

But previously he has always maintained that he had final day on all transfers, so either M Ashton has gone rogue or Johnson is trying to throw him under the bus to save his own skin. 

And for me it would simply confirm why I think hes had his time, blames his team for his shortcomings, and now is trying to blame somoene else rather than take an ounce of responsibility. 

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2 hours ago, cityloyal473 said:

I would say that a manager who has been supported like no other in our history is in no position to be questioning the commitment or ambition of others. 

What about Alan Dicks 

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2 minutes ago, Spud55 said:

But previously he has always maintained that he had final day on all transfers, so either M Ashton has gone rogue or Johnson is trying to throw him under the bus to save his own skin. 

Hes ran out of players to throw under the bus

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While LJ has been known to throw others under the bus to save himself and seemed more than happy to sign a no doubt contract that set out many details, including his job remit etc, he can only work with what he is given.

Ultimately there is only one man who decides what that is and its not MA.

LJ will not rock the boat to much incase he falls out, chances of signing someone exp and who we need this month nil, chances of a loan after everyone else has finished, fair; and chances of signing/loaning someone who wont actually play much; quite high.

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17 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

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No, wasn’t me, but I did think he delayed and delayed and delayed making a sub because the game could’ve gone either way.

Sorry Dave, I read a lot of posts yesterday!! 😄

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2 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

In today’s Post 

‘ 'Depends what your ambition is' - Lee Johnson outlines Bristol City's position in the transfer window ‘

Clearly spelling out to SL that we will not get promoted without spending the necessary.

Added a little swipe at M. Ashton before explaining how difficult the January market is.

For all those calling LJ a ‘ Yes man ‘ , Shut up . 

I believe he’s toughening up as he réalisés that his job is on the line.

I believe it will be a very interesting end to this season . 

Always someone else's fault

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6 minutes ago, Spud55 said:

But previously he has always maintained that he had final day on all transfers, so either M Ashton has gone rogue or Johnson is trying to throw him under the bus to save his own skin. 

And for me it would simply confirm why I think hes had his time, blames his team for his shortcomings, and now is trying to blame somoene else rather than take an ounce of responsibility. 

Where the issue might arise is availability. If we get to a point where Mark Ashton can only say, “the only deal I can get for you is......”, what does he do? The choice is he either takes a player that wasn’t his first choice, or he tries to go with what he has already. Either decision is going to get him criticised by the supporters, because we can’t see behind the scenes in that process.

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2 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

In today’s Post 

‘ 'Depends what your ambition is' - Lee Johnson outlines Bristol City's position in the transfer window ‘

Clearly spelling out to SL that we will not get promoted without spending the necessary.

Added a little swipe at M. Ashton before explaining how difficult the January market is.

For all those calling LJ a ‘ Yes man ‘ , Shut up . 

I believe he’s toughening up as he réalisés that his job is on the line.

I believe it will be a very interesting end to this season . 

Intresting because from time to time we've all questioned the club's ambitions... yes the stadium has taken shape and foundations are being layed and people have mentioned we are only 1pt off top 6 BUT paying big money & wages is not in our DNA something that SC challenged and then moved on. So now it looks like Lee has challenged it or covered is arse it will make for an interesting few weeks. Eddie was never coming as I previously posted purely down to what wages we would pay just like bringing DG here few season's back only to waste his time by offering pocket money. We all have to question IF NOT NOW THEN WHEN??? there is no better time to inject the money and buy the quality needed than now in a open division....

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2 minutes ago, kevinmabbuttshair said:

Always someone else's fault

Always a reason to have a dig.

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2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Where the issue might arise is availability. If we get to a point where Mark Ashton can only say, “the only deal I can get for you is......”, what does he do? The choice is he either takes a player that wasn’t his first choice, or he tries to go with what he has already. Either decision is going to get him criticised by the supporters, because we can’t see behind the scenes in that process.

He should do what every other manager had to do and work with what he's got, there isn't a manager on planet earth that gets their first choice player every time, why should Johnson be immune? The man is as per usual doing everything to try and deflect any scrutiny from himself, and he's running out of players to scapegoat so has now turned to his boss. 

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I don’t know what to make of our transfer business. @Leveller said it seems like our squad is more an investment portfolio than a team. Think that sums it up for me too. 
 

Feels like there are too many people involved. Like major people involved. LJ has to sign off on it, MA has to sign off on it, SL has to sign off on it who else? Then we have SL saying his preferred squad size is 22 with 2 for each XI on the pitch. Yet we have established with those out on loan we have over 30 players who you would call squad players. Why is this not being followed? We seem to have the restrictions of what we will pay players but no restrictions on how many? 
 

The squad is a mess. There are far too many players to start. Then there are far too many not good enough. For the money we make on players we just waste it on wages for dross. So for me I can’t blame any one person. Too many different voices and they need to sort it out. 

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7 minutes ago, Allwaysred said:

Intresting because from time to time we've all questioned the club's ambitions... yes the stadium has taken shape and foundations are being layed and people have mentioned we are only 1pt off top 6 BUT paying big money & wages is not in our DNA something that SC challenged and then moved on. So now it looks like Lee has challenged it or covered is arse it will make for an interesting few weeks. Eddie was never coming as I previously posted purely down to what wages we would pay just like bringing DG here few season's back only to waste his time by offering pocket money. We all have to question IF NOT NOW THEN WHEN??? there is no better time to inject the money and buy the quality needed than now in a open division....

We spent big in the summer we broke our transfer record we have players on big wages who cant even get in match day squad dont think you can say SL hasnt spent money he loses £25 mill a year so we can support city😂

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1 hour ago, Harry said:

Interesting that LJ has spoken out 3 times in the last couple of weeks, clearly saying that the recruitment is all down to Ashton. 
 

I’ve made the point on here many times but people seem keen to not want to believe it. It’s all too easy to berate the manager for all of the signings. 
Most people’s argument against me was that LJ never says anything about the transfer policy, never speaks out about his frustration. 
 

Well, he’s very subtly hinted about it 3 times this last week or so and putting the pressure onto Ashton to deliver. 
 

Perhaps people will start to realise now that it’s Ashton’s responsibility and LJ only plays a small role in the identification, recruitment and ratification of incomings. 
 

 

Don't think there's a chief scout anymore and they're not recruiting one to replace. 

Mark Ashton has more or less overruled it to take a bit more of a hands on approach.

Time to suck it up and make it happen.this window.

This season may be the telling of a few management staff's roles. Otherwise I can see a lot of change in the summer to push things forward even more so.

 

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I didn't read anything into the lack of subs other than that we didn't need them. We weren't playing badly, we were certainly creating chances, no-one on the bench was more likely to stick one away, and there certainly wasn't any hint (that I heard) of the crowd getting restless. And, as @Davefevs says, there was a flow and pattern to the game; I think Pato ran out of steam and bringing on O'Dowda changed that as little as possible. Also, I'm not sure who he'd have taken off earlier; there wasn't anyone having a bad game yesterday. 

On the LJ quote that @Major Isewater began this with, it seems to me that all LJ is saying is what plenty of us on here often say which is that, for all that we're a selling club etc, if we really want to take that final step we have to balance that with either

a) not selling our 3-4 best players at the end of every season and having to rebuild: at some point we have to keep a Webster or a Reid and keep the spine of our team, or the back four, together.

b) not be totally reliant on promising players from lower leagues or unknowns from France, but invest in a proven Championship player even if that means spending big.

The big squad we now have doesn't help with the latter especially, because it limits the cash available. The comments about LJ identifying who we want and MA getting them are interesting. Presumably we identify numerous potential targets, on the basis that we'll only get a small proportion in; if MA actually gets more than expected then that results in a bigger squad than anticipated? Clearly it's not that simple, and there must be a degree of prioritising and discussion, but may explain for example our dearth of no 10s?

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12 minutes ago, Spud55 said:

But previously he has always maintained that he had final day on all transfers, so either M Ashton has gone rogue or Johnson is trying to throw him under the bus to save his own skin. 

And for me it would simply confirm why I think hes had his time, blames his team for his shortcomings, and now is trying to blame somoene else rather than take an ounce of responsibility. 

My understanding is that the recruitment team headed by MA find players that might be suitable. LJ is then informed of said players and LJ will make the final decision - it’s then over to MA to negotiate a deal.

LJ himself is not necessarily involved in recruitment but  knows that January is never a good time to buy/sell players and that even finding suitable players can be difficult. He’s not blaming anyone, he’s simply saying what the more informed posters already know................:cool2:

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2 minutes ago, Spud55 said:

He should do what every other manager had to do and work with what he's got, there isn't a manager on planet earth that gets their first choice player every time, why should Johnson be immune? The man is as per usual doing everything to try and deflect any scrutiny from himself, and he's running out of players to scapegoat so has now turned to his boss. 

So let’s say that’s the situation now. He is the one getting criticised for not having options off the bench up front and using Callum O’Dowda who could fall into that category you are talking about. Like I said, he gets criticised either way.

I wish to hell and back Afobe had stayed injury free and his personal tragedy hadn’t happened, 100% for his own sake. But as a club and a team I am sure we would be having an entirely different conversation right now.

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