Andrew_V1 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 I’ve posted a few times my thoughts on this complete farce however I feel compelled to point to another issue ignoring all the obvious issues of Holden being completely unqualified for a job like this (please don’t quote uefa badges at me) it also feels like a complete set up in that two thirds of the failed experiment have been dumped yet he will get a promotion. This is just my conclusion drawn from the outside but is it possible Holden is a bit of a snake and this is more than a simple yes man scenario but in fact the ultimate corporate suck up that so many of us have to endure in our normal working lives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossitl Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 weeks in and I fail to see how he could have come out on top of the list of managers being banded about. If this news is true he’s an easy choice. I hope he proves us all wrong but there’s not many fans that see this as an ambitious appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: So, who do we think we'll be appointing as HC/manager in December? Ashley Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Taking the weekend to think it over? =\ Wtf is going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WirralRobin Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 He could still turn it down yet according to Gregor....... Imagine the chaos if he did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Andy082005 said: Please don’t fall into the trap of accepting this bullshit appointment if it happens This appointment is nothing more then an insult to every one of us. Every season we get the same old bullshit promises, things don’t work out and we put it down to misfortune and hope for better next season This will be the first time they have just blatantly lied to us all. The fans shouldn’t just roll over and accept it, and if we do it just proves how weak and tepid our support has become over the last few years Im still holding at at the fact it’s a rumour....but if we appoint Holden, then **** Lansdown Accept your views, I will accept what I want.... strange times, significant revenue lost for the foreseeable future, I am disappointed with the decision after a farcical 5 weeks but it’s not holdens fault....and if this is true and he accepts I support the club and dean... he is gonna need all the support he gets. i understand you and many will be angry but what do you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, OldlandReddies said: Clearly other candidates were not prepared to take a salary drop. The player salary cap announcement is imminent as well so that will have a big impact. Maybe the full financial implications were not known until recently? We and most other clubs are right in the shit now because of Covid. This is simply about survival until the virus goes and we get back to full stadiums Appreciate your opinion but don’t buy the financial side of it. Doing this all over again in 5 months if Dean does not work out, and even worse a drop to the 3rd tier (can’t be ruled out, where are the new players coming from if we can’t afford an external managerial appointment) alongside the complete negativity from the consumer (fans on this occasion) is actually more damaging financially than paying a salary for a manager that could push us on and also ignite the imagination of a fan base who were primed for it. If finances are so tight that we can’t afford £1-1.5m a year for a proven and successful manager then we are in a very dire state, it maybe also goes without saying that if that’s the case, there’s a few places towards the top of the club where we could trim some pretty healthy salaries to support probably the most important position in the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Nah. He won’t last a season You don't know that though, do you..?! You may be right - but you may not be..! So how about getting behind him, in the hope that he might actually turn out well..?! Or, maybe, even just give him a chance..?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: Clearly other candidates were not prepared to take a salary drop. The player salary cap announcement is imminent as well so that will have a big impact. Maybe the full financial implications were not known until recently? We and most other clubs are right in the shit now because of Covid. This is simply about survival until the virus goes and we get back to full stadiums Except we won’t be anything like “filling” our stadium unless Dean hits the ground running...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Monkeh said: No they lied to us again They treat us with contempt and expect us to lap it up Im through with them I want them out of my club This is from a happy clapper Absolutely correct. These past 5+ weeks have shown me what an absolute disgrace the people running the club really are. They dont give a shit about the fans. Its not just the appointing Holden. Its the silence. Using the media to try and "soften the blow", its the ******* lies. Lies and lies. The corporate s*******n that is BS. The ego maniac Ashton. It helped me realise thats whats been going on for a long time imo. The ownership is appaling. It is jobs for the boys. People need to realise that now. Theres a reason Lansdown could not wait to get shot of Cotterill. Im angry as ****. And ive lost ALL enthusiasm for football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Congrat's to the Robins lotto winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Take the weekend to think it over? Preseason starts on Monday. Sod this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Andrew_V1 said: I’ve posted a few times my thoughts on this complete farce however I feel compelled to point to another issue ignoring all the obvious issues of Holden being completely unqualified for a job like this (please don’t quote uefa badges at me) it also feels like a complete set up in that two thirds of the failed experiment have been dumped yet he will get a promotion. This is just my conclusion drawn from the outside but is it possible Holden is a bit of a snake and this is more than a simple yes man scenario but in fact the ultimate corporate suck up that so many of us have to endure in our normal working lives? What complete farce? Please restrict your answer to KNOWN FACTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Regardless of what they decided, he's clearly not the best candidate. He's the cheapest Might be best candidate who agreed to fit in with the clubs policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Redpool said: No, because you’re happy to swallow the same constant shit without putting your foot down and standing up to the owners. I hope every other ST vents their frustration trying to earn a refund, and ticket sales drop. The club deserves nothing from its customer base. Perhaps some people aren’t ‘happy to swallow the same constant shit’ but still want to support the club they love instead of asking for refunds when we’re actually in a much better position than we were even 6 years ago. Obviously nearly everyone is disappointed by the appointment, but that doesn’t mean people can’t still support the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, WirralRobin said: Oh wow, imagine if he turned it down after all this! I really hope he turns the fckrs down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bullbag said: Then why did we bother having talks & Interviews with CH and other candidates if they knew they couldn't afford their salary? Sorry I think you're some way off here. Don't try and make excuses for this shambles of a club. We don't even know who they interviewed do we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillzider Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, And Its Smith said: Might be best candidate who agreed to fit in with the clubs policies. Probably the only candidate to fit in with the clubs policies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, And Its Smith said: Might be best candidate who agreed to fit in with the clubs policies. That probably rules out most qualified managers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Actually. That really annoys me. If he wants the job, take it. Don’t take a weekend to decide over a gift horse of a job that’s way above your station and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Roe said: Taking the weekend to think it over? =\ Wtf is going on DH is taking a look at what the thoughts of OTIB are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh93 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 I’m not surprised he’s thinking it over, especially after the backlash over the last few days and the banners tied to the gate Who would accept a position if you know the fans are already against the appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 hours ago, RedRock said: If this appointment goes tits up then when it comes to looking for a replacement I think our reputation will have taken a battering and any high profile manager won't be interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said: You don't know that though, do you..?! You may be right - but you may not be..! So how about getting behind him, in the hope that he might actually turn out well..?! Or, maybe, even just give him a chance..?!! Good luck to the guy. He will need it as he is being hung out to dry . He is not qualified, nor is he ready for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 If ever a job offer confirmed that we are firmly stuck in second place in the BS hierarchy then this is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Think it over . What an absolute shit show . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Please don’t fall into the trap of accepting this bullshit appointment if it happens This appointment is nothing more then an insult to every one of us. Every season we get the same old bullshit promises, things don’t work out and we put it down to misfortune and hope for better next season This will be the first time they have just blatantly lied to us all. The fans shouldn’t just roll over and accept it, and if we do it just proves how weak and tepid our support has become over the last few years Im still holding at at the fact it’s a rumour....but if we appoint Holden, then **** Lansdown You'd prefer someone with a proven track record..? Someone who would guarantee us success..? Like.... Steve Coppell perhaps..?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, Dastardly and Muttley said: Actually. That really annoys me. If he wants the job, take it. Don’t take a weekend to decide over a gift horse of a job that’s way above your station and experience. That is exactly why he wants to take the weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Atticus said: Absolutely correct. These past 5+ weeks have shown me what an absolute disgrace the people running the club really are. They dont give a shit about the fans. Its not just the appointing Holden. Its the silence. Using the media to try and "soften the blow", its the ******* lies. Lies and lies. The corporate s*******n that is BS. The ego maniac Ashton. It helped me realise thats whats been going on for a long time imo. The ownership is appaling. It is jobs for the boys. People need to realise that now. Theres a reason Lansdown could not wait to get shot of Cotterill. Im angry as ****. And ive lost ALL enthusiasm for football. Ha ha ha ha ha. Not a single thing is known with any certainty, yet on the basis of rumours from the local rag, you’re all going apesh*t. What a ****ing joke. The only absolute disgrace is this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggyRed Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 He’s thinking about it? That ******* sums it up for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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