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3 minutes ago, Red DNA said:

You assume they like YES men because it suits your opinion, in reality they’re businessmen and they like MONEY - which comes from success, just not at all costs risking the progress we’ve made in the last 10 years or so  

We always were just punters even back in the ‘60s when I first went AG, and it was the working class in the standing areas and business men (suits..🙄) in the best seats in the ground.

They do consider fans opinions but they are the ones with the power and the responsibility to take us forward in the way they think is best for everyone - not just to suit a few classless kids painting on some scabby old bedsheets. 

With the current COVID situation many clubs are fearful of the unknown in respect of income and funds for transfers so as SL is a money man - who despite already ‘giving’ us millions , would probably prefer not to risk losing money at this time so I think it will be Dean Holden. 

Why did they sack lee Johnson then???? I get the austerity / COVID argument. But it falls down as surely Johnson was sacked for failing to make the playoffs. Fans then think we are going to bring in a man who can break us into the top 6, but oh no we are going to appoint the assistant who has been here for some of the most dull footy ever witnessed down the gate.

if we are watching the purse strings who better to steer us through COVID and whatever comes but Johnson. Absolutely brainless stuff.

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1 minute ago, Crackers Corner said:

So you genuinely believe that anyone on a forum who disagrees with the clubs approach should support another team?

 

No the post I was replying to said there would be a fan revolt everyone has an opinion but to be constantly attacking the board and the owner hanging banners up basically having a meltdown  is something I don't endorse. If Holden gets the job he obviously interviewed very well and they have decided its in the best interests of the club at this present time  Hughton may have asked for too much money and the club couldn't afford it we weren't there at the interviews, if it is Holden give him a chance and support the club that's what I will be doing 

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33 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said:

I actually think that on this occasions thousands will rebel and be very unhappy. Some will give him a chance. A huge majority won’t 

Nah, they’ll sit at their keyboards tapping out rubbish for a few weeks, then buy the feed if results are OK.

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19 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Not this time, not 1 person ive spoken too want him, the reaction on Facebook the post here and twitter gives a better indication and I've seen little support on that front ether,

 

There really won't be.

There will be the usual bedwettters on here and Facebook saying they will cancel season tickets and support a local non league team but in reality they won't. 

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13 minutes ago, Red DNA said:

You assume they like YES men because it suits your opinion, in reality they’re businessmen and they like MONEY - which comes from success, just not at all costs risking the progress we’ve made in the last 10 years or so  

Respect for sticking with the club for so long...I started watching in 1969...but I hate to say that 10 years ago we finished 10th in the Championship...we've dropped 2 places.

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24 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said:

IF it is DH then surely the contract will only be a 1 year rolling contract to steady the ship through Coronavirus, and then appoint a Top Man when the Pandemic is over.....on the other hand, this is Bristol City

Now you know it will be a 4 year contract that is extended after the first run of good results!

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Does it matter? 
Leeds, West Brom, Brentford and Fulham miles better than us.

Cardiff, Swansea, Forest better than us

Preston, Derby, Millwall about the same.

Don’t care who was manager, current squad is not good enough.

Think of our squad and name those who would get in the top 4 teams. 
 

oh, sorry. Callum O’Dowda ............

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3 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

Someone that I know has contacts within Ashton Gate has been told that it looks nailed on for Holden.

To me, if true, it shows that Lansdown speak with forked tongue. Publicly states that he want Premier League for City but will not employ the best available.

Yet another cheap and easy choice.

Depressing if confirmed. Given the public statements weeks back and the time that has passed it would be an extraordinary choice.

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16 minutes ago, !james said:

There really won't be.

There will be the usual bedwettters on here and Facebook saying they will cancel season tickets and support a local non league team but in reality they won't. 

I wouldn't be so sure I've already done so the last few years not buying a season ticket instead Ive brought a membership and picked games but that won't even happen if Holdens appointed!! 

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22 minutes ago, milo1111 said:

Why did they sack lee Johnson then???? I get the austerity / COVID argument. But it falls down as surely Johnson was sacked for failing to make the playoffs. Fans then think we are going to bring in a man who can break us into the top 6, but oh no we are going to appoint the assistant who has been here for some of the most dull footy ever witnessed down the gate.

if we are watching the purse strings who better to steer us through COVID and whatever comes but Johnson. Absolutely brainless stuff.

Yes i also understand the Covid argument and the need for stability, I probably would prefer Holden to LJ though, a fresh face if nothing else, who knows maybe he'll work wonders, maybe not,  I'm probably not as disappointed as I should be, sort of past that now, season on TV anyway probably ... just get on with it really ...

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My absolutely outsider opinion is that Holden is not up to the task of  head coaching a Championship team. His few games for me seemed like a show performance and that game against Swansea tactically was one of the most unprofessional  game I've ever seen. I felt embarassed during those last 25 minutes. The Boro game was a 'new coach push' and during the games it seemed that after 70 mins stamina wore off and he was unable to shake up the game. But this is just my personal opinion.

On the other hand if I was in Holden' shoes I would've punched this McGregor guy after the second time he asked about future coaching of Bristol City. And still he managed to ask it on EVERY pre / post presser an i***t.

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21 minutes ago, Chappers said:

Nah, they’ll sit at their keyboards tapping out rubbish for a few weeks, then buy the feed if results are OK.

Think I would ask and try to get a refund on my season ticket, he’s been part of the problem, which you could see in a few of those games when he was in charge, looked very much like the Johnson performances we’ve seen for most of the season.

I am all for people being given the chance, but the bloke doesn’t fill me with confidence, with performances and his interviews after the match, but this is  Bristol City and it’s an easy option for them, not one that I think would get the fans excited, or to encourage more to buy season tickets, or go and watch. Might be wrong, only time will tell.

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46 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Not this time, not 1 person ive spoken too want him, the reaction on Facebook the post here and twitter gives a better indication and I've seen little support on that front ether,

 

Is there a difference between not wanting him and him not being their no1, no2, etc choice.

I think a lot will depend on how he is presented to us (assuming he gets it).  If it’s all BS and smarm from MA, then it isn’t going to go down well. I’m not saying that is acceptable, but it’s not one for MA to use @CodeRedas his speech writer is it? 😂

Finally, what if Holden’s backed with the right signings?  If it was Benkovic back on loan, Brewster from Liverpool doesn’t suddenly change things?

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3 minutes ago, Chappers said:

Just think, the tantrum brigade give up their SC, we then have a promotion season and one in the Premiership, both with restricted attendances. And because number of ST’s exceeds capacity, no new ones are issued.

You lost me at promotion season 😁

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Just now, Davefevs said:

Is there a difference between not wanting him and him not being their no1, no2, etc choice.

I think a lot will depend on how he is presented to us (assuming he gets it).  If it’s all BS and smarm from MA, then it isn’t going to go down well. I’m not saying that is acceptable, but it’s not one for MA to use @CodeRedas his speech writer is it? 😂

Finally, what if Holden’s backed with the right signings?  If it was Benkovic back on loan, Brewster from Liverpool doesn’t suddenly change things?

He won't be in charge of signings 

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5 minutes ago, mossey said:

Think I would ask and try to get a refund on my season ticket, he’s been part of the problem, which you could see in a few of those games when he was in charge, looked very much like the Johnson performances we’ve seen for most of the season.

I am all for people being given the chance, but the bloke doesn’t fill me with confidence, with performances and his interviews after the match, but this is  Bristol City and it’s an easy option for them, not one that I think would get the fans excited, or to encourage more to buy season tickets, or go and watch. Might be wrong, only time will tell.

You can't get a refund on a season ticket unfortunately. Its stated in the terms and conditions. 

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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Is there a difference between not wanting him and him not being their no1, no2, etc choice.

I think a lot will depend on how he is presented to us (assuming he gets it).  If it’s all BS and smarm from MA, then it isn’t going to go down well. I’m not saying that is acceptable, but it’s not one for MA to use @CodeRedas his speech writer is it? 😂

Finally, what if Holden’s backed with the right signings?  If it was Benkovic back on loan, Brewster from Liverpool doesn’t suddenly change things?

Agree tbh, Ashton has pulled out some surprisingly good signings/ sell ons, he has brought some decent money into the club which I think this is overlooked somewhat. My only hope is that if Dean is appointed and if he does terribly (well any head coach for that matter) that the board are more decisive in their future firing/ recruitment policy.

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5 minutes ago, Hunsupport said:

My absolutely outsider opinion is that Holden is not up to the task of  head coaching a Championship team. His few games for me seemed like a show performance and that game against Swansea tactically was one of the most unprofessional  game I've ever seen. I felt embarassed during those last 25 minutes. The Boro game was a 'new coach push' and during the games it seemed that after 70 mins stamina wore off and he was unable to shake up the game. But this is just my personal opinion.

On the other hand if I was in Holden' shoes I would've punched this McGregor guy after the second time he asked about future coaching of Bristol City. And still he managed to ask it on EVERY pre / post presser an i***t.

The most Unprofessional game you’ve ever seen?

All game?

Or just the last 25 minutes....when he went shit or bust, 1-0 down in a game where a result would still give us an outside chance of playoffs.  A period where within 34 seconds are going gung-ho, we earned a penalty to have the chance to grab an equaliser!!

I might be in the minority, I was post-match, but I still don’t know what other options he had, other than go for it.  Should he have just carried on as we were and end up losing 1-0 with a whimper?

For 65 minutes we actually outpassed Swansea, but let ourselves down in the final third.

So what if it the final 25 he went 4312, but with many attacking players on the pitch.  He had nothing to lose.

He might not be the right man, but I saw a caretaker manager do a decent job in 5 games, who picked up a few results that didn’t look like happening under LJ, who had taken us on a 9 game winless run....a worse run than Hull City were on..  The criticism of the job he did is unwarranted.  It’s not his fault the board have failed to appoint someone and left us in a position where he is being considered.  If he gets the job (I don’t think he should get it either) it’s the failings of those above him.

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