Bar BS3 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 How about, rather than all these expert predictions of impending struggle, collapse and imminent relegation... We just give it a chance and judge the coming months on what actually happens. We've taken a massive gamble, (which I don't agree with) but let's at least give Deano a chance to do well, rather than making it impossible by dooming him to fail, before he's even started..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said: How about, rather than all these expert predictions of impending struggle, collapse and imminent relegation... We just give it a chance and judge the coming months on what actually happens. We've taken a massive gamble, (which I don't agree with) but let's at least give Deano a chance to do well, rather than making it impossible by dooming him to fail, before he's even started..! Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 I don’t think there is any hate towards DH on here and most see it as a fantastic opportunity for him. I don’t blame him for taking the job. It’s above where the anger is, and the lies about ambition and lack of communication. I will support DH and the staff to be successful but will not be spending a penny at the club in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Did this need a new thread or are you just trolling as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, RUSSEL85 said: I don’t think there is any hate towards DH on here and most see it as a fantastic opportunity for him. I don’t blame him for taking the job. It’s above where the anger is, and the lies about ambition and lack of communication. I will support DH and the staff to be successful but will not be spending a penny at the club in the near future. Toilets out of action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: How about, rather than all these expert predictions of impending struggle, collapse and imminent relegation... We just give it a chance and judge the coming months on what actually happens. We've taken a massive gamble, (which I don't agree with) but let's at least give Deano a chance to do well, rather than making it impossible by dooming him to fail, before he's even started..! No. He’s part of the previous regime. Out with the old in with the new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: How about, rather than all these expert predictions of impending struggle, collapse and imminent relegation... We just give it a chance and judge the coming months on what actually happens. We've taken a massive gamble, (which I don't agree with) but let's at least give Deano a chance to do well, rather than making it impossible by dooming him to fail, before he's even started..! Im not sure I can bring myself to be part of it. The last few years have just kept dragging me down to the point where I realised I wasn't going to the games because I enjoyed it but more out of habit of the last 30 odd years. I feel like my wife has left me, taken the kids, left the dog who has to go to the vets which is a £3k bill, then taken me to court and she has won the dog back, the house and I have to pay all her court costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Exactly this If we lose Fam and Elliason then the basis of the squad is this before we make a few signings to improve it. Doesn’t seem too bad as long as the 2-3 we bring in improve us. Personally I would prefer those to be in the RWB and 2 strikers areas Bentley Moore Kalas. Baker Vyner Walsh. Dasilva Nagy. Massengo Weimann. Wells Subs O’Leary, Hunt, Palmer, Rowe, Szmodics, Morrell, Semenyo, Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: How about, rather than all these expert predictions of impending struggle, collapse and imminent relegation... We just give it a chance and judge the coming months on what actually happens. We've taken a massive gamble, (which I don't agree with) but let's at least give Deano a chance to do well, rather than making it impossible by dooming him to fail, before he's even started..! People are allowed to make predictions about an impending appointment. As mentioned though, no one is angry with Holden - it’s at board level where the anger is directed. They raised fan expectations and are paying the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: How about, rather than all these expert predictions of impending struggle, collapse and imminent relegation... We just give it a chance and judge the coming months on what actually happens. We've taken a massive gamble, (which I don't agree with) but let's at least give Deano a chance to do well, rather than making it impossible by dooming him to fail, before he's even started..! How about giving a proper title to your thread instead of clickbait nonsense that has no benefit being on OTIB . Another time waster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Exactly this If we lose Fam and Elliason then the basis of the squad is this before we make a few signings to improve it. Doesn’t seem too bad as long as the 2-3 we bring in improve us. Personally I would prefer those to be in the RWB and 2 strikers. Bentley Moore Kalas. Baker Vyner Walsh. Dasilva Nagy. Massengo Weimann. Wells Subs O’Leary, Hunt, Palmer, Rowe, Szmodics, Morrell, Semenyo, Watkins. Let all hope Vyner, Walsh, Morrell, Moore, Semenyo Szmodics, O'Leary can all step up, add Massengo and Watkins and it looks a fairly weak to me. Why are we gambling after taking 4 years trying to establish ourselves with rookies and a head coach with no experience? SL has lost the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Horsman Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Exactly this If we lose Fam and Elliason then the basis of the squad is this before we make a few signings to improve it. Doesn’t seem too bad as long as the 2-3 we bring in improve us. Personally I would prefer those to be in the RWB and 2 strikers areas Bentley Moore Kalas. Baker Vyner Walsh. Dasilva Nagy. Massengo Weimann. Wells Subs O’Leary, Hunt, Palmer, Rowe, Szmodics, Morrell, Semenyo, Watkins. That team would spend a lot more time in the bottom 6 than the top 6!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: Let all hope Vyner, Walsh, Morrell, Moore, Semenyo Szmodics, O'Leary can all step up, add Massengo and Watkins and it looks a fairly weak to me. Why are we gambling after taking 4 years trying to establish ourselves with rookies and a head coach with no experience? SL has lost the plot. Finances is the reason. We lose £16m per year. Just now, Andy Horsman said: That team would spend a lot more time in the bottom 6 than the top 6!!! With 3 new signings to improve it I think it would do okay. Amazing how young players can improve when given time to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Andy Horsman said: That team would spend a lot more time in the bottom 6 than the top 6!!! Would it? Lots of talent throughout that side, not top 6 ready by any means but mid table with the potential to be pushing for the play offs in the next couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, Smokey said: Im not sure I can bring myself to be part of it. The last few years have just kept dragging me down to the point where I realised I wasn't going to the games because I enjoyed it but more out of habit of the last 30 odd years. I feel like my wife has left me, taken the kids, left the dog who has to go to the vets which is a £3k bill, then taken me to court and she has won the dog back, the house and I have to pay all her court costs. How did you feel when we were in League One mediocrity for years struggling then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, JBFC II said: Would it? Lots of talent throughout that side, not top 6 ready by any means but mid table with the potential to be pushing for the play offs in the next couple of years Agreed especially if you add 3 new signings to it. The next vital step is to get these signings bang on. Recruitment been mixed in recent years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, RedRoss said: How did you feel when we were in League One mediocrity for years struggling then? Pissed off but we're not that same club anymore, its taken longer than it should but we have moved forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: How about, rather than all these expert predictions of impending struggle, collapse and imminent relegation... We just give it a chance and judge the coming months on what actually happens. We've taken a massive gamble, (which I don't agree with) but let's at least give Deano a chance to do well, rather than making it impossible by dooming him to fail, before he's even started..! No!!! No!!!.......... No!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Agreed especially if you add 3 new signings to it. The next vital step is to get these signings bang on. Recruitment been mixed in recent years If we can get around 8-9 million for Eliasson and diedhiou (on the cheap side because of the current climate) then that money has to be reinvested well I agree. Hopefully we can utilise the loan system well as well, something that you’d hope the new coaching team (if the current rumours are accurate) should have the contacts to help us with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Would it? Lots of talent throughout that side, not top 6 ready by any means but mid table with the potential to be pushing for the play offs in the next couple of years We just sacked a manager because mid table wasn't good enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, MATT BCFC said: We just sacked a manager because mid table wasn't good enough... after he’d been given 4 years to achieve the aim of the play offs. I’d be very surprised if they told Holden that it was play offs or bust this season, especially considering the financial uncertainties of the current situation meaning we won’t be spending big money on new signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, MATT BCFC said: We just sacked a manager because mid table wasn't good enough... because austerity hadn’t hit by then. It will hit now. Going to be a shock to some for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 43 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: How about, rather than all these expert predictions of impending struggle, collapse and imminent relegation... We just give it a chance and judge the coming months on what actually happens. We've taken a massive gamble, (which I don't agree with) but let's at least give Deano a chance to do well, rather than making it impossible by dooming him to fail, before he's even started..! PLEASE don’t call him ‘Deano’. Don’t know why, but it does my head in, grrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: How about, rather than all these expert predictions of impending struggle, collapse and imminent relegation... We just give it a chance and judge the coming months on what actually happens. We've taken a massive gamble, (which I don't agree with) but let's at least give Deano a chance to do well, rather than making it impossible by dooming him to fail, before he's even started..! I think you have to disassociate support for the new manager with support for the actions of the club, the board, the owner, the chairman and Mark Ashton. Almost all of us wish Holden the best. But it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t lament the abject failure of the recruitment process, pretend to be happy about it or not make predictions about how we think it will go. The club have let us all down, and their complete silence on the manager situation while allowing Gregor to effectively act as a human shield for their complete incompetence, treats supporters with contempt. Personally I’m not ready to move on yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Agreed especially if you add 3 new signings to it. The next vital step is to get these signings bang on. Recruitment been mixed in recent years For me Dave, it’s about only adding upgrades, whichever position they happen to be in. We can’t afford to bring in “squad fillers”...we have those. They are obvious positions that look like they need strengthening, but for sake of playing devils advocate and simplicity, buying a CB for £2m could save you conceding the goals a £8m striker score you. We need smart recruitment, even if that’s loans. Sitting here this lunchtime as a starting point here is a simplistic view of our squad:: GK RB Unless Vyner is Hunt’s deputy CB LB Rowe is Dasilva’s cover CM Lots of numbers but would like a dominant one AM Wingers - lets just leave that until we see if Holden even plays them FW but that’s woukd change to If Diedhiou is sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Smokey said: Pissed off but we're not that same club anymore, its taken longer than it should but we have moved forward. So you recognise we've progressed in recent years. You were pissed off before and the last few progressive years have made you not want to go even more? I don't get it? On the one hand you accept we've moved on from a time that made you pissed off but your still pissed off about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: because austerity hadn’t hit by then. It will hit now. Going to be a shock to some for sure. The situation wouldn’t have come to a shock to us. At the time of LJ’s sacking, projections weren’t that different to they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Regardless of what you think about Holden's appointment (and personally I think it sucks), the way the club has gone about it has been lamentable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsHeadIs Red Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, Southport Red said: PLEASE don’t call him ‘Deano’. Don’t know why, but it does my head in, grrrrr What about Holdie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: The situation wouldn’t have come to a shock to us. At the time of LJ’s sacking, projections weren’t that different to they are now. The shock to fans will be that mid table will be acceptable next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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