Ska Junkie Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 A back line containing Baker, Kalas and Mariappa (assuming Alfie Mawson is a long term injury) doesn't sound bad to me although it could be a tad harsh on Moore and particularly Vyner. I guess Vyner could revert to RB although Mariappa has played there a fair bit too according to a couple of Watford fans I know. They were sad to see him go which doesn't sound too alarming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Now confirmed as signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: We don’t have to play 3 centre backs. Play two and have one back up. And one injury or suspension and we’re screwed . We need another centre half , simple as that. one with prem experience , even better. It’s a condensed season and it been proven that injuries are up massively on other seasons. It makes sense imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class not gas Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Think this will be a good signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class not gas Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Please merge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said: Just my opinion but by the sounds of it anyone who disagrees with you has to be wrong , please name me a top six championship side who you think would play Moore and vyner Bristol City. Albeit top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: A back line containing Baker, Kalas and Mariappa (assuming Alfie Mawson is a long term injury) doesn't sound bad to me although it could be a tad harsh on Moore and particularly Vyner. I guess Vyner could revert to RB although Mariappa has played there a fair bit too according to a couple of Watford fans I know. They were sad to see him go which doesn't sound too alarming. I think Baker will see chances limited, high wages for a player so injured. I expect him to be behind Mariappa, Kalas and even Vyner and Moore who I think are better in a back 3 and will be here next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Excellent signing. This isn’t some random centre back, he’s got loads of Prem and Championship experience and could be another mentor to Moore and Vyner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, marcofisher said: I think Baker will see chances limited, high wages for a player so injured. I expect him to be behind Mariappa, Kalas and even Vyner and Moore who I think are better in a back 3 and will be here next season. A fit Baker will certainly not be behind Moore & Vyner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Until January? 11 games. I wonder if this is a commitment to going back to 3-5-2 or he just comes in for Vyner in a 4. We'll see I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 55 minutes ago, Robbored said: Why do you think signing an experienced CB creates a problem? Surely with both Mawson and Baker out injured cover is needed in central defence? I’ve explained above already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: Then we come onto Mariappa’s demands. He knows he’s in demand and can drive a hard bargain. In Williams’s case it is rumoured that he had a low basic wage but large appearance fee. He also had a clause that said if he made x appearances his 6 month deal would be automatically extended to the end of the season. That is the kind of deal I would like for Mariappa, but beggars can’t be choosers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, marcofisher said: I think Baker will see chances limited, high wages for a player so injured. I expect him to be behind Mariappa, Kalas and even Vyner and Moore who I think are better in a back 3 and will be here next season. Baker wouldn’t be behind Moore & vyner imo. Taylor has slipped down the pecking order after the horror show v Norwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: And one injury or suspension and we’re screwed . We need another centre half , simple as that. one with prem experience , even better. It’s a condensed season and it been proven that injuries are up massively on other seasons. It makes sense imo Well he has only signed until January so I am fine with it now anyway! He comes with my blessing which I am sure is very important to him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Very sensible signing given it’s a short term deal. I’m glad we haven’t locked him in for two years as was rumoured yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Thats a sensible deal for a very experienced player who will provide much needed cover. Good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 And the great thing is that he's already had Covid-19, so hopefully his antibodies will mean he won't join our sick list with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 @Davefevs any stats on Mariappa Dave . Is he a ball playing centre half etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted November 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 23:56, ollywhyte said: Should Mawson be out for a significant period of time, will we be looking to the free transfer list to bolster our defensive options? Especially if we are going to continue with 3 CBs? Mariappa is currently a free transfer, a few years younger than Ashley Williams and has played over 20 games a season for Watford in the Premier League over the past 3 or 4 years IIRC A contract until January would seem a sensible move with option to extend beyond that? No worries Deano. Do I get any commission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: @Davefevs any stats on Mariappa Dave . Is he a ball playing centre half etc ? Don’t think he is. Similar to Bakes and Kalas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Good signing this on paper, brings plenty of experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Prinny said: Until January? 11 games. I wonder if this is a commitment to going back to 3-5-2 or he just comes in for Vyner in a 4. We'll see I guess! We have to be aware we’re extremely short at right back or RWB, we have Hunt and currently nobody else with the loss of Sessegnon. Vyner could cover but then leaves us short at centre back. Talk of Mawson potentially being back next month is encouraging. We have eleven games between 31 November and 31 December. Many coaches have spoken of the likelihood of increase of injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tin Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Interesting that the contract is only until January, that makes sense if he's match fit. I doubt he's ready to be dropped straight into the starting XI and this suggests to me that we can expect Baker and Mawson back early in the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 I worried the deal would have been longer but a short term deal with our injury problems and a chance to look at him seems to make perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 Proportionate and sensible signing, hopefully he can reach match fitness quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Why do you think signing an experienced CB creates a problem? Surely with both Mawson and Baker out injured cover is needed in central defence? I think we have to be careful to not rule out EVERY experienced player just because we have had a few bad experiences with some in the past. Don’t get me wrong we seem to have had our fair share of journeyman wasters that have come in over the year’s but equally we have had some really good experienced pro’s that have done well for us. With all due respect to Vyner and Moore they aren’t IMO the answer to promotion at this level - they will almost certainly need help over the course of the season.. As we have seen already this season lose Kalas and we then look extremely vulnerable in central defence. As with any signing i will reserve proper judgement until they have played but certainly on paper Mariappa is exactly what we need right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Sounds like an intelligent bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: A fit Baker will certainly not be behind Moore & Vyner! He would be if we play him as a sweeper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted November 11, 2020 Report Share Posted November 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: A fit Baker will certainly not be behind Moore & Vyner! Ability wise no, but he will be behind Mariappa and Kalas, and forward planning would dictate that we would use Vyner and Moore at points for future planning when Baker will probably not be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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