richyy66 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Jack Rodwell MK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, BigTone said: Oh dear. He's done sweet FA since the day he signed for us so why is he the promised one now ? Ok, he did ok at Coventry.....big swinging Mickey !!! As I said, no guarantees, but you could see how he wants to play in the games he played for us. He was one of the best players in L1, as I said exactly the player we would be tying to sign if he wasn't ours. Have you written off Williams because we haven't seen him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: As I said, no guarantees, but you could see how he wants to play in the games he played for us. He was one of the best players in L1, as I said exactly the player we would be tying to sign if he wasn't ours. Have you written off Williams because we haven't seen him? No I haven't, but we've seen Walsh some while back and he just didn't cut it. So many people on here see him as the messiah. .Come on, grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: Great post @JonDolman. I'm surprised just because he's not played for us, people are happy to write him off without seeing him, while at the same time saying you've no proof if he's good enough you haven't seen him. If he was a Coventry player full time , he is the exact type of player we would have tried to sign. One of the best players in L1, and a good age. From what I've seen, he's 2 footed, plays with his head up and tries to play forward. Things we struggle with (Bakinson apart). Add Williams to the mix, a combative, mobile, box2box MF ( Going from what I've read ) then that sounds like a very good pairing. No guarantees, but I'm really looking forward to seeing them together. My view is.....I’m gonna wait and see. Said that all along. I see little point in writing him off nor claiming he’s the messiah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Just now, BigTone said: No I haven't, but we've seen Walsh some while back and he just didn't cut it. So many people on here see him as the messiah. . Come on, grow up. Can you point out where I've called him the Messiah . When he played his 10 or 15 games for us he was 20 and had a handful of games under his belt. That's why he went on loan, play games, get experience and improve. Did you decide Brownhill was shite after 10 games? I don't remember him pulling up trees early on . So how by saying I'm looking forward to seeing them as a pair calling him the Messiah, pretty stupid comment IMO. I watched a couple of promising performances for Cov last year, I'm looking forward to seeing if he can do that in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Come on now. Most of us are not as daft as the club would like us to believe. Wont sign contract, wants to leave, will leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Just now, TomThumb84 said: Come on now. Most of us are not as daft as the club would like us to believe. Wont sign contract, wants to leave, will leave. Sorry re-posted that when trying to quote myself. By the way, I think he is a very good footballer. Just don’t think he fancies us and will move on. Mind you, wouldn’t we all right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Can you point out where I've called him the Messiah . When he played his 10 or 15 games for us he was 20 and had a handful of games under his belt. That's why he went on loan, play games, get experience and improve. Did you decide Brownhill was shite after 10 games? I don't remember him pulling up trees early on . So how by saying I'm looking forward to seeing them as a pair calling him the Messiah, pretty stupid comment IMO. I watched a couple of promising performances for Cov last year, I'm looking forward to seeing if he can do that in the Championship. Anyone looking forward to this “Williams/Walsh” axis of glory may be a tad disappointed. 1) Walsh will be gone in Jan 2) Don’t think we will have enough points on board to use this utopian midfield dream-team, and will dig in and scrape 50 points with Dean getting a shot again next year in a non-covid world (hopefully). Happy Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Can you point out where I've called him the Messiah . When he played his 10 or 15 games for us he was 20 and had a handful of games under his belt. That's why he went on loan, play games, get experience and improve. Did you decide Brownhill was shite after 10 games? I don't remember him pulling up trees early on . So how by saying I'm looking forward to seeing them as a pair calling him the Messiah, pretty stupid comment IMO. I watched a couple of promising performances for Cov last year, I'm looking forward to seeing if he can do that in the Championship. In fairness you didn't but so many on here seem to think he is the be all and end all of footballers. Ffs he isn't else he would have featured ages ago when he first signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, BigTone said: In fairness you didn't but so many on here seem to think he is the be all and end all of footballers. Ffs he isn't else he would have featured ages ago when he first signed. He did, not regularly, but played a bit. Just the fact he looked like he plays with his head up, has 2 good feet, and plays forward. Now he may not have been ready, but Johnson couldn't make his mind up with players, and he said he couldn't play in a 2. Which seemed odd after buying him . TBH , I think some may be living on hope, there is very little in the team to hold on to. But Holden said he wanted to build around Walsh & Williams, it is all potential until they have a run o games. I think Massengo could be a good player, he's gone backward since he's been with us. Nagy is important to Hungary, here he's in and out. I'm optimistic , but from history you don't know what we will turn those players into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 Given the amount of time he's been out it does seem that he wants away which is a shame. I think a lot of people are looking forward to a Williams\Walsh combination. That Stoke 45 minutes when he literally ran the show was impressive, so he has the talent. It looks like its down to the coaching staff to convince him otherwise. So he's off then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 20, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 Let's be honest we've a sad knack of coaching the talent out of flare players so who knows what we'll get I'm starting to believe there's more to it, but January and how soon he plays again will answer that question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, richyy66 said: Jack Rodwell MK 2 Yes, being on loan to Coventry from a Championship club and then being injured is akin to signing from the Premier League Champions for 80k a week and then not playing... Liam Walsh is about as Jack Rodwell MK2 as Luke Ayling is George Best MK2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 The little I seen of Walsh, I liked him and Everton fans were gutted he left. I'd was really interested in leaving his best approach would be to play well for us in the championship and prove he can play at this level, so I don't agree with the conspiracy theories on here. Would still like an update on his injury though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 9 hours ago, BigTone said: Stop players buying quad bikes is my opinion. I blame Ashton for this !! Yeah. Difficult mind, what with the Foul-ers being en route from BTM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted December 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 According to Gregor we are looking at the end of February at the earliest. I smell something fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: According to Gregor we are looking at the end of February at the earliest. I smell something fishy. Put your socks on then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: According to Gregor we are looking at the end of February at the earliest. I smell something fishy. Genuinely lost interest in whether he returns or not or stays or not. Poor Adam Nagy will have probably started 30 consecutive games in 3 months by the time he is ever fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: According to Gregor we are looking at the end of February at the earliest. I smell something fishy. We need to come to sort of arrangement with him that we just release him from his contract so he can go sign for whoever he wants now. Save us in wages until the end of the season when he'd leave for nothing anyway. Guaranteed if we did this, he'd start for a team first week of Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 Where are people getting Williams out for most of the season from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, grifty said: We need to come to sort of arrangement with him that we just release him from his contract so he can go sign for whoever he wants now. Save us in wages until the end of the season when he'd leave for nothing anyway. Guaranteed if we did this, he'd start for a team first week of Jan. What a ridiculous thing to say. Obviously he won't be playing for us or anybody else in the first week of Jan. The club have made absolutely clear he's injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Where are people getting Williams out for most of the season from? Replied in the other thread , Dave . Holdens words were. Williams hopefully back before the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 One thing that’s annoyed me about Holden is when it coming to questioning of injuries he doesn’t like to give lots of detail. very frustrating when it just feels like they’re getting further and further away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 I think we’re at a point now where they should probably give a detailed analysis of what’s gone wrong like the updates we had from Steve Allen regarding Pisano etc just to stop any conspiracy theories & general anger towards this from fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 That’s good - we can get Walsh fit for his new Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 28 minutes ago, Carey 6 said: I think we’re at a point now where they should probably give a detailed analysis of what’s gone wrong like the updates we had from Steve Allen regarding Pisano etc just to stop any conspiracy theories & general anger towards this from fans. Can’t do that if the conspiracies are true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said: Replied in the other thread , Dave . Holdens words were. Williams hopefully back before the end of the season Ah, just heard. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 So Walsh is definitely going to reach a full year without competitive football and Williams could actually follow suit. Weimann could do as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, markcarter said: Agreed. He talks a lot until he’s asked about injuries at which point he becomes sulky, monosyllabic and evasive. Given the truly exceptional circumstances of two players who have injuries that have stopped them playing a competitive game since March and supporters having no idea what the injuries actually are, let alone a prognosis and timetable for recovery, this is treating supporters with contempt and is a massive reversal from previous practice, which has never been explained to us. Unacceptable. Yep. Just to show basic respect to the supporters would be brilliant. Not a lot to ask. According to a friend - you can only give generalized information about a players injuries like an estimated return date. You can give an eta because that is something that effects the business you cannot however go in to full details of injuries as that breaks medical confidentiality. Pisano had to sign a specific waiver to allow staff to discuss in detail what had happened. I don't know the specifics of what is happening right now but was told that players often don't want all info released particularly if they might be moving clubs as it can put off potential interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 23, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, mozo said: So Walsh is definitely going to reach a full year without competitive football and Williams could actually follow suit. Weimann could do as well. That's some serious injuries they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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