Team for - Derby (A) - Sat 30th Jan 15:00 - Matchday thread

[bcfc01]

A wasted 50 minutes or so.

Analysis of Citys first half performance;

CRAP.

 

[Curr Avon]

City were still on the coach for the first half hour, but the injury to Bieliik and the long interval has helped them settle. Still in it.

[Red Exile]

Looked better towards the end of that. For me we have - as we often had in the LJ era - some of the most talented and individually skilled players in the club’s history, all the clubs in the bag you could wish for. What we lack is a proven and experienced manager to organise them. No one thought Dean Holden was that man. 

[italian dave]

1 minute ago, Monkeh said:

Derby look fine on the pitch, we can't use that as an excuse for how poorly we've played

They train on it (apparently)? 

But agree we're playing poorly regardless. 

[Slack Bladder]

I think we would struggle to get a penalty on target at the moment

[bexhill reds]

1 minute ago, Shockwave said:

What game are Odowda and the commentator watching? 

Robins TV, can’t be saying anything that’s off corporate message. 

[Leveller]

Just now, Shockwave said:

What game are Odowda and the commentator watching? 

"a fairly even contest apart from the goal" apparently!! A good description of the last five minutes, perhaps. Pity about the rest.

[MarcusX]

3 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said:

Hard to fault him too much as he is being asked to do a job which he’s not familiar of, but this Vyner in midfield experiment needs to end, he has no long term future in this position & its clear as day he isn’t good enough when on the ball for it. We have plenty of options for midfield so no need of it.

Who?

HNM and Bakinson on the bench, the former has struggled and the latter isn’t looking like the player at the start of the season.

For all the midfielders we have signed on, we just don’t have much quality available in there.

This has been dreadful 

[phantom]

Derby very clever in getting their pitch so bad.
Makes it a bit of a leveller and hinders passing teams. 
Get one back and we'll win

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

2 minutes ago, Sturny said:

Keep playing like we did in those last 15 minutes and we'll get something I reckon 

Probably cramp!

[Denbury Red]

Where are the balls for Wells to run onto - it’s what he did really well for QPR - why not give him some service!

[maxjak]

It's come to the point...........where discussing precipatation is more interesting than the standard of football being displayed by our team, says it all, does it not?

[steviestevieneville]

Don’t like posting during the game because it’s just emotion . That first 35 minutes though we’re diabolical . No pressure on the ball, being played around , too much space front to back . Passive . Why do we start games so poorly . This isn’t isolated . 

[finbarr_in_z]

3 minutes ago, BCFC_95 said:

This is from a Derby fan on Twitter RE the pitch:

 

“groundsman hasn't been paid, that's why pitch is in a state, they've trained on the pitch at least twice this week also, reason behind pitch being poor definitely sinister, wouldn't surprise me if Moor Farms being compromised In some sort, or it's being sold off?”

Radio Derby said that Derby had trained on this pitch twice this week. Must have been wearing wellies.

[Andy082005]

So is there anyone out there that still thinks Holden is the man to take this club forward? 

 

[Ska Junkie]

That wasn't great was it? We're still in it though which is the only positive I can see.

[Top Robin]

To be fair we looked the better team in the last 15 mins

[steviestevieneville]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

City will be alright a 4-4-2 Stevie.

[ashton_fan]

We were better after the break for their injury. Quite pleased to be only one goal down and still in the game.

[chinapig]

1 minute ago, Red Exile said:

Looked better towards the end of that. For me we have - as we often had in the LJ era - some of the most talented and individually skilled players in the club’s history, all the clubs in the bag you could wish for. What we lack is a proven and experienced manager to organise them. No one thought Dean Holden was that man. 

Ashton thought he was, and that's all that counts I'm afraid.

[Bar BS3]

1 minute ago, Sturny said:

Keep playing like we did in those last 15 minutes and we'll get something I reckon 

Agreed. 

Of course it's not been great and we certainly need to do more - but I think people are moaning for the sake of it, to an extent. 

It been fairly even, nothing of much note from either team. 

Tried to pass it around (which is silly on this surface) 

I'd actually like to see us go direct, get Martin on, try and get something from it and get out of that shot Hole. 

Need to take the game by the scruff of then neck now in the second half. 

Can we...? 

[Monkeh]

Just now, Top Robin said:

To be fair we looked the better team in the last 15 mins

Doesn't matter when you don't really create or shoot,

[Red Army 75]

Imagine spending your hard earned cash travelling around the country watching this shit . Awful football 

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

1 minute ago, Andy082005 said:

So is there anyone out there that still thinks Holden is the man to take this club forward? 

 

Dean Foldin'

[Lew-T]

Missing that presence in midfield. Simply no excuses for that pitch though, there are better pitches up on the downs even at this time of year!

[italian dave]

1 minute ago, Top Robin said:

To be fair we looked the better team in the last 15 mins

Fair? I think you're in the wrong place mate!

[Mr Hankey]

3 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Who?

HNM and Bakinson on the bench, the former has struggled and the latter isn’t looking like the player at the start of the season.

For all the midfielders we have signed on, we just don’t have much quality available in there.

This has been dreadful 

As you say, HNM, Bakinson & even Rowe (which is his main position) all of which i would have ahead of Vyner....this isnt me rubbishing Vyner, but he has no future in midfield & i dont believe he is doing a job more capable than the others could. Just running about and being a product of the academy shouldnt mean he has a right to be playing.

Dont get me wrong, i fully agree with you, it is dreadful.

[City_USA]

1 minute ago, Red Exile said:

Looked better towards the end of that. For me we have - as we often had in the LJ era - some of the most talented and individually skilled players in the club’s history, all the clubs in the bag you could wish for. What we lack is a proven and experienced manager to organise them. No one thought Dean Holden was that man. 

Agreed. I would have loved to see what Neil Warnock could have done with this squad. At the very least he would have brought some passion and more effective football.

[Portland Bill]

5 minutes ago, 054123 said:

This is the most interesting point of discussion of the day

Very much so

 

[Kashmir]

3 minutes ago, phantom said:

Derby very clever in getting their pitch so bad.
Makes it a bit of a leveller and hinders passing teams. 
Get one back and we'll win

We won’t