The Original OTIB Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 It won't be Kalas (especially when he's throwing it), it won't be Baker (based on what we've seen), could it be Atkinson? We damn well need extra goals so surely they are working on hitting him from set pieces. I've not seen that so far. Yes, Flint is/was a bit of an anomaly, but surely one of or big lads can get a few and surely we can work on that. Was Flint coached or was it just his natural, aggressive way? How many headed goals have we scored from set pieces post Flint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Flint was better than most of the strikers we've had since for scoring headers! His height was a massive advantage obviously, Kalas hasn't got the size to get above opposition centre backs on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted August 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, OneTeamInBristol said: Flint was better than most of the strikers we've had since for scoring headers! His height was a massive advantage obviously, Kalas hasn't got the size to get above opposition centre backs on a regular basis. That's partly my point, Atkinson is about 6' 3" I think. Part of it is natural spring, of course, see Sergio Ramos, for example (only 6', I believe). Does Atkinson "Spring" I wonder, or is he largely a static unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: It won't be Kalas (especially when he's throwing it), it won't be Baker (based on what we've seen), could it be Atkinson? We damn well need extra goals so surely they are working on hitting him from set pieces. I've not seen that so far. Yes, Flint is/was a bit of an anomaly, but surely one of or big lads can get a few and surely we can work on that. Was Flint coached or was it just his natural, aggressive way? How many headed goals have we scored from set pieces post Flint? Not sure how many center backs since Flint left but there will be others that can google this info. It is a different game now from many years ago around center backs. Many years back City always had some great center backs that moved up when corners were taken like Collier, Rodgers back in the golden years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted August 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just now, City oz said: Not sure how many center backs since Flint left but there will be others that can google this info. It is a different game now from many years ago around center backs. Many years back City always had some great center backs that moved up when corners were taken like Collier, Rodgers back in the golden years Not a different game for Flint, still scoring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Not a different game for Flint, still scoring! He sure does. How about another Marion Pack ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted August 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, City oz said: He sure does. How about another Marion Pack ? Not a centre-back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Not a centre-back. I suppose what any one thoughts are in what is actually a centre back position these days. More apparent know where formations change week in and week out. Years ago it was normally a 4-4-2. Or a 4-3-3. Now some times a 4- 3- 2-1. Any way a center back to me was a number 5 or 6 shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 I recall NP suggesting that getting the delivery right was possibly the most important part of scoring set pieces. With Matty James, we certainly seem to have improved the quality of our balls into the box. Therefore I don't see why Kalas or Atkinson (or Baker if playing) couldn't get a few goals from set pieces this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 I remember under GJ, Jamie McCombe scored quite a few, mostly when he was chucked up top as an extra striker in games we were losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said: I remember under GJ, Jamie McCombe scored quite a few, mostly when he was chucked up top as an extra striker in games we were losing. Last minute winner at Doncaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Flint.......4 goals in 2 games.........he still has the knack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, myol'man said: Last minute winner at Doncaster Remember the overhead kick against someone like Crewe, at the Atyeo end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, The Horse With No Name said: Remember the overhead kick against someone like Crewe, at the Atyeo end? And the equaliser at the Riverside in the cup that took it to pens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 And yet we've scored 3 of our 5 goals so far from set pieces. Do we need the CBs to be the ones scoring from corners and FKs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claverham_Red Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claverham_Red Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Remember the overhead kick against someone like Crewe, at the Atyeo end? https://youtu.be/fa4yB6TsOPE v Hull, 1:45mins in. Good memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: And yet we've scored 3 of our 5 goals so far from set pieces. Do we need the CBs to be the ones scoring from corners and FKs? You seen this site: https://dataviz.theanalyst.com/season-reviews/2021/?competition_id=10&season_id=2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: You seen this site: https://dataviz.theanalyst.com/season-reviews/2021/?competition_id=10&season_id=2021 I had not. It has been bookmarked. From that you'd say Saturday's game is going to be two teams with a similar style, and similar goal-scoring threats. Set piece battle anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted August 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: And yet we've scored 3 of our 5 goals so far from set pieces. Do we need the CBs to be the ones scoring from corners and FKs? We need goals, from anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Given the fact we don't deal with crosses Flint and Morrison could really destroy us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Flint is a far better player than many on here gave him credit for. How many centre backs have scores a perfect hat trick and 20 goals in a season? Not many, even amongst those who take penalties (which Flint doesn’t). Most of our strikers in the past few years have a lower strike rate than Flint. As Baker is the only player left from the time of Flint here and played centre back with him during our best period in 2017/18, then NP should be trying to get the lowdown from him, and potentially how to both target Flint and stop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: Flint is a far better player than many on here gave him credit for. How many centre backs have scores a perfect hat trick and 20 goals in a season? Not many, even amongst those who take penalties (which Flint doesn’t). Most of our strikers in the past few years have a lower strike rate than Flint. As Baker is the only player left from the time of Flint here and played centre back with him during our best period in 2017/18, then NP should be trying to get the lowdown from him, and potentially how to both target Flint and stop him. Completely agree. I think Flint was superb, and improved massively during his time at City. His goal-scoring exploits (the variety as well as quantity) in that promotion season - we’re unlikely to ever see anything like that again from a centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Flint was good, talismanic. Had his deficiencies, but he also made opponents fear him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 Were many of Flints goals for us actually headers though..? Of course some were, but all his goals that spring to mind were scored with his feet, rather than it all being down to his height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 Adam locke, he was a decent wing back. He scored a couple of beauty headers. Used to like how he got forward. Not in flints leauge for scoring. i know. Scored a beauty that night at millwall, when they all ran on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 I wonder how many Aden will get on Saturday. Unfortunately at least one I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 Shaun Taylor got a few for us IIRC. Not in Flint`s league but a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Shaun Taylor got a few for us IIRC. Not in Flint`s league but a few. Taylor 7 goals in 105 apps. Flint 38 goals in 246 apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Taylor 7 goals in 105 apps. Flint 38 goals in 246 apps. Seemed like he got more - better than 1 in 15 anyway. That`s memory for you I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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