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11 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Undoubtedly starting to show what he can do again as you say, always been technically sound.

Your point LB wise, I do and I don't agree. LB with a diamond in front of him, perhaps not. A more symmetrical setup ie some kind of 4-3-3 with a wide left or winger pushed high, I think the cover would improve things.

In a flat back 4 he gets targeted every time . He was earlier this season and it was awful to watch . He will never make it it a four in my view . It’s too much of a liability .  But see no reason why he cannot play in midfield . 

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24 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

In a flat back 4 he gets targeted every time . He was earlier this season and it was awful to watch . He will never make it it a four in my view . It’s too much of a liability .  But see no reason why he cannot play in midfield . 

Time will tell. He's 23/24, age on side- cover in front might help

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4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Time will tell. He's 23/24, age on side- cover in front might help

My reasoning is the volume of diagonals that come his way , less the attacking threat on the ground more the aerial weakness . Early this season he was tried there and it was brutal . So Nige moved Baker there . I honestly cannot see Nige putting Jay in as a RB in a four . I don’t think he’s going to grow anymore ! So he’s just too small for a RB . But left side of midfield yes .    If he was 6 ft it would be different . As a LB he is a weak point and liability . Unless we decide we are going 3 at the back but 433 has been the direction Nige says he wants . 

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21 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

My reasoning is the volume of diagonals that come his way , less the attacking threat on the ground more the aerial weakness . Early this season he was tried there and it was brutal . So Nige moved Baker there . I honestly cannot see Nige putting Jay in as a RB in a four . I don’t think he’s going to grow anymore ! So he’s just too small for a RB . But left side of midfield yes .    If he was 6 ft it would be different . As a LB he is a weak point and liability . Unless we decide we are going 3 at the back but 433 has been the direction Nige says he wants . 

I still feel that he can play LB in a back 4 but it really depends on the spacing between him and his LCB.  If he can play tighter to the right sided opponent then diags become less of an issue.  Early season I felt he tending to play closer to Atkinson to enable him to settle in.  Baker at LB v Cardiff felt like horses for courses.  Preston too, had they played Potts.  I’m also a big believer in pressing the man on the ball to make the diag harder to hit.

The kind of stuff that comes together on the training ground.

Digressing slightly, Saturday felt like one of the v.few times we’ve played with a “flat three” in midfield and I thought we covered the width of the pitch pretty well, even if Scott was below par.  We’ve normally played a two and one in the hole and that has exposed our full-backs / wing-backs because the two have too much ground to cover.  If you couple that 3 in midfield (flat) with a front 3, complimenting a back 4 then maybe we get back to early days of “Dasilva the Left Back”.  We’ll see though.

 

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58 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I still feel that he can play LB in a back 4 but it really depends on the spacing between him and his LCB.  If he can play tighter to the right sided opponent then diags become less of an issue.  Early season I felt he tending to play closer to Atkinson to enable him to settle in.  Baker at LB v Cardiff felt like horses for courses.  Preston too, had they played Potts.  I’m also a big believer in pressing the man on the ball to make the diag harder to hit.

The kind of stuff that comes together on the training ground.

Digressing slightly, Saturday felt like one of the v.few times we’ve played with a “flat three” in midfield and I thought we covered the width of the pitch pretty well, even if Scott was below par.  We’ve normally played a two and one in the hole and that has exposed our full-backs / wing-backs because the two have too much ground to cover.  If you couple that 3 in midfield (flat) with a front 3, complimenting a back 4 then maybe we get back to early days of “Dasilva the Left Back”.  We’ll see though.

 

Braver man than me , never in a million years do I see JD as a LB in a 4 . Will get murdered every week . If we need to talk about a LB being covered and protected to perform then it’s a lost cause for me . He will continue to get targeted . He is not defensively good enough for such a platform . I like a lot about Jay but not as a defender in a back 4. Will be happy to be proven wrong . I guess he will get a lot of practice to improve as every game he will have balls launched to him as he did early season . He will be the weak link . I am not sure Tanner is going to be strong enough either in a 4 . But maybe we are going for 3 at the back , then that’s a different story . 

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7 hours ago, billywedlock said:

Braver man than me , never in a million years do I see JD as a LB in a 4 . Will get murdered every week . If we need to talk about a LB being covered and protected to perform then it’s a lost cause for me . He will continue to get targeted . He is not defensively good enough for such a platform . I like a lot about Jay but not as a defender in a back 4. Will be happy to be proven wrong . I guess he will get a lot of practice to improve as every game he will have balls launched to him as he did early season . He will be the weak link . I am not sure Tanner is going to be strong enough either in a 4 . But maybe we are going for 3 at the back , then that’s a different story . 

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9 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I still feel that he can play LB in a back 4 but it really depends on the spacing between him and his LCB.  If he can play tighter to the right sided opponent then diags become less of an issue.  Early season I felt he tending to play closer to Atkinson to enable him to settle in.  Baker at LB v Cardiff felt like horses for courses.  Preston too, had they played Potts.  I’m also a big believer in pressing the man on the ball to make the diag harder to hit.

The kind of stuff that comes together on the training ground.

Digressing slightly, Saturday felt like one of the v.few times we’ve played with a “flat three” in midfield and I thought we covered the width of the pitch pretty well, even if Scott was below par.  We’ve normally played a two and one in the hole and that has exposed our full-backs / wing-backs because the two have too much ground to cover.  If you couple that 3 in midfield (flat) with a front 3, complimenting a back 4 then maybe we get back to early days of “Dasilva the Left Back”.  We’ll see though.

 

On that last point, Dave, do you think that was one reason why HNM struggled when he came on? It was almost like it forced him into expending all that energy just going round in circles, instead of up and down and across the pitch? 

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