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2 minutes ago, RedNachos said:

Saw this on the Bristol city hashtag. Follower count makes it pretty sketchy, but definitely adds up with some of the narratives the 'ITK people' are sharing.

Would fit with a toxic ownership, look what they did to Pearson, who in his right mind would want to work for them narrative. 
 

I remember years ago, when SOD was appointed, he remarked that BCFC was respected as a club, within the football industry. I wonder how many people on the inside would say that today?

As a bit of a digression, regarding the Wade Elliott question, of course no sensible supporter would actively canvass his appointment to this particular job at this precise moment: minimal experience in the role, and that was pretty disastrous, but BCFC aside, it actually wouldn't surprise me if he made a go of it somewhere else eventually. Cheltenham is and was a basket case and probably already beyond salvation when he took it on. I doubt anyone else would have fared any better and if you wanted to criticise him, it would probably be for his decision making in agreeing to accept the job in the first place. From what I've seen of him, which admittedly is not a huge amount, he is quite an impressive bloke. Intelligent, articulate, seems to be good with people, successful career as a player behind him, none of which guarantees anything, of course, but I have a hunch he'll resurface somewhere at some point*, if he hasn't already, and with a better outcome. (*Anyone actually know what he's up to these days?)

As long as the denouement consists of the slimy evil owner being unmasked as the real villain and banged up for life, with his son and accomplice also given a lengthy spell of community service, coupled with a life ban from ever holding office in any football club again, I don't much care what TV soap you base it on or who's in the cast. What we've actually got at the moment is something more akin to Some Mothers Do Have 'Em, with wall-to-wall farce, but minus the laughs, and with JL as the hapless Frank Spencer. You'd have to come up with a far more sinister parallel for SL himself, though: I can't think of one devious and dangerous enough off the top of my head at the moment.  

3 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said:

But would it not be Pearson by proxy? Not that that would necessarily be a bad arrangement, it's highly likely that Curtis is probably in regular contact with Nige. 

As far as I'm concerned, that would be an argument in favour of appointing him, rather than a reason not to, though as I already said, I'm not actually advocating it.  

11 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said:

Fleming until the end of the season

That actually is not entirely beyond the bounds of possibility, in my opinion (and no, I don't know anything, apart from the relevant history that we're all aware of). Nor am I advocating it, thought the one redeeming aspect would be that it might provide some continuity and help preserve at least a little of the culture instilled by Pearson, which would be a small consolation.

8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Simple as.

Despite all his much vaunted business acumen and experience, he really has painted himself into a corner, hasn’t he? The club is imbedded, as far as I can see, in a complex nest of companies from which it’s nigh on impossible to extract it as a stand alone entity. He’s deprived the club of arguably its most valuable material asset that it used to own outright (the stadium), can’t restore it to them, and no sane investor wants to buy a club without the security of having its own ground. Nor do they want all the other corporate baggage that it’s now inextricably tied up with.  But the man’s an entrepreneurial genius, apparently. I know nothing of business, but it starts to look to me like one of the most spectacular own goals in corporate history.

4 hours ago, mattjb said:

  Voted ‘sell’ . Can’t see any way they can turn this around now, even if the new man does well and we win games. The mistrust would still be there. 

Your last sentence, beyond a doubt. Not only have they made complete and utter fools of themselves, but they have revealed themselves in the most cack handed way to be thoroughly disingenuous. 

Having shown themselves to be totally lacking in professionalism, they have gone a step further and demonstrated beyond question that they are also, frankly, untruthful.

There’s no coming back from that.

5 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I don’t think there’s any way back from a PR/supporter relations POV.

People just don’t trust the owners footballing judgement. Their track record with managerial appointments is poor and it seems they value someone who won’t challenge them too much.

 

Don’t trust their integrity, either.

2 minutes ago, Harry R said:

Leave him in place to take training, then sack him when the new man is appointed.

If he resigns, no payout, so he stays waiting to be sacked.

Is my guess.

I should probably know this, as it presumably must have been spelled out somewhere, but I’m still unclear as to whether all the personnel who have gone were dismissed, or if some chose to leave in the wake of Pearson’s sacking. Can anyone enlighten me?

8 minutes ago, firstdivision said:

Perfectly well written, albeit subjective, article but it doesn’t tell us anything new. It’s a rehash of everything that’s on here.  And few people outside Bristol give a flying fig about our club so it’s not exactly taking our dirty laundry to a national audience. I speak as someone who lives in London.

More interesting is James Piercy’s piece about the last weeks of the messiah. 

For those of us who don’t know, could you enlighten us as to where the article you refer to may be found?

1 hour ago, Countryfile said:

Has Rowett worked under a DOF?
 

My money is on Tinnion being appointed DOF, the new Head Coach reporting to him.

We already have the non playing side covered off with the recent changes in responsibilities, bring the football side into line and hey presto the Lansdowns regain control.

The whole NP sacking is about control, with his personality, knowledge and determination NP had taken control away from SL and JL, they want that back.

Lot of truth in that last point. The irony is that they correctly appointed someone of experience with a strong personality to rescue them from a total mess of their own making, and to change the whole culture of the club to something less glaringly dysfunctional.  They then sack him when he does those things so competently, and becomes, in their conspicuous absence, the visible face of BCFC, because they are then resentful that he’s shouldered a role and responsibility that they’ve abdicated from and consequently feel threatened by him.
 

Pathetic, really, isn’t it ?

4 minutes ago, FNQ said:

Probably worth a tenner on Curtis Fleming.. . He’s a nice guy, will do as he’s told and gets on well with the players… oh, and he won’t cost much.

It certainly wouldn’t surprise many people, based on past experience.

8 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I fell out of love with footie, not City.  I had to stop playing (I bloody loved playing) through injury at 30/31 having had 4/5 years of trying to and failing to overcome a ruptured ACL.  I watched City from afar, HTV news on a Monday night, but that was about it, until I started taking Joe in 13/14 under SOD.  So I had 10+ years “away”.

I saw the decline from Div 1 to Div 4.

I missed the GJ years.

I was back for Cotts Tier 3 success.

Some real downs and ups.

Today feels like a huge down from a promising position.

Well, some of us have been through a pretty much uninterrupted period of well over half a century, in my case from the early sixties, and I can tell you the only thing that surpasses this is the club almost going out of existence in 1982. The clowns who steered City into that catastrophic financial position, who included Stephen Kew, if I remember rightly, were in some respects of a similar ilk to the Lansdowns, and every bit as arrogant, stupid and detached from reality.

Sometimes it’s not just what you do, but how it’s done. The way that NP has been hung out to dry and shafted for personal, not football reasons, is really quite despicable. Like countless others, I have defended SL in the past against what at the time was very unfair criticism, but you can’t defend the indefensible and the only feeling I have towards the ownership now is one of complete and utter contempt. There is now a profound distrust among the fan base that will never be overcome, regardless of whether the Lansdowns stay or go in the long run.

One of the lowest points I’ve ever experienced in sixty-odd years of following this club. 

If it weren’t so so infuriating and serious, I’d find the idea that the “Board” might act positively hilarious. It would, I suppose, at least indicate that somebody’s still alive up there. Current indications are that rigour mortis has already set in. (And by the way, what Board?)

I have only the RB radio commentary to go on, but from what I’m hearing, regardless of the final outcome, this has been a pretty heroic performance in the circumstances, which is - among other things - another tribute, if any more were needed, to what Pearson has managed to do with threadbare resources. I am so, so peed off with the massive leadership vacuum at the top of the club: a near total abdication of responsibility.

1 minute ago, bcfc01 said:

Where you going ?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

For me, a point would be an achievement.

It wouldn’t be an achievement. It would be a bloody miracle.

8 minutes ago, phantom said:

Love all the doom and gloom before a ball has been kicked 

We're not expecting that bench to play 90 minutes, starting 11 should be good enough to give Cardiff a game 

I'm going for an away win 

8 minutes ago, DownendRed97 said:

3-0 City today, Cornick, Mehmeti & Weimann. Always believe COYR

This is optimism on an epic scale. In fact, it’s beyond that: it’s positively delusional. Fair play to you for positivity, but if you’re proven right, I’ll be coming to you for next week’s winning lottery numbers.

2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

 

Jesus! That’s telling us we’re absolutely down to the bare bones. Struggling to get a competitive team on the field.

11 hours ago, cidered abroad said:

A very dependable defender who I feel was underrated by many City fans. Possibly because he didn't have as much pace as others but his reading of games was superb.

RIP Gordon with our thanks

You're right. As someone else said, he could look a a bit ungainly, but that was deceptive. He was, in fact, quite a cultured player, with an accurate left foot and a very good football brain, if somewhat limited by the aforementioned lack of pace and the proverbial QE2 turning circle. He was also a good captain and leader. I recall the cohort of youth/reserve team players who were introduced into the senior side when we were struggling a bit as a club (John Giles was one whose name I remember), and I have a clear memory of him looking after the young lads, shouting instructions and encouragement. I had considerable respect for him as a footballer and recall the team of which he was a member with great affection - especially Jantzen, who was very talented and one of my favourite City players of all time.  Good memories: a very different era. 

3 minutes ago, redsince1994 said:

Working nicely for me on android

 

https://soccerinhd.com/live/leeds-united-vs-bristol-city

Yep, one that works, finally. Thank you for that.

Just now, Dollymarie said:

I just get this every 20-30 seconds 

Me too (to coin a phrase…)

How do you say “thanks, but no thanks” in emoji?