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Weird to see this thread so low on match day... I think there will be a reaction today, but I don't know what it will be so I'm going 2-0 but unsure to who.

Oh god not this again, only just recovered from the last time

This has been posted a lot And I'm extremely grateful every time it comes up as it gets me every time! 'And that's it really'

If anybody ever needed to know the power of OTIB... This thread has prompted people to bet on Lampard, hence then dropping the odds. Dropping the odds has caused all the pretend ITK Twitter accounts to start tweeting which further drops the odds as people lump on more. In a weird sort of paradox, this then comes back to OTIB with more and more people starting to believe it simply due to the thread now being 20 pages and more people tweeting, even though there's no subtance to any of this. It's now at the point in the cycle where people start to go 'maybe there is something in this' and it then gains more credibility before at 2pm Bristol Live confirm it's not happening. So with that in mind, for now, Welcome Frank...

Sorry, I really don't understand your point, I'm not allowed to judge him on the job he's doing now because he's only just started? Nor the similar job he did previously? What I can do though is judge him on some other job roles with a very different skillset and criteria? I'm not angry by the decision made to remove Pearson, I'm disappointed by the timing and feel like he's been shit on massively. What I'm angry about is the inconsistent communication, lack of ownership and culpability and lies from senior figures of this football club. If you're happy burying your head in the sand because of your previous issues with Pearson then full power to you. Edit - Apologies to everybody else for biting and derailing the thread, should know better...

When Tinnion was going to be 'poached' he was in a very different role to what he is doing now which is a key bit of context... I haven't seen anybody dispute the work Tinnion has done in terms of helping to build the pathway and a streamlined club from top to bottom. He's now gone from that where he was very successful to essentially running the entire football opetstion, something he's spectacularly failed at before. So people have every right to judge him on what he's doing here and now and judge him on the criteria that's relevant

Yeah but imagine how good he would be if Pearson had given him 30 minutes in the league cup... Of all the things that people are trying to throw and lobby against Nige, James Morton is a strange one...

Thought he deserved his own thread, I appreciate this may turn into an 'injury crisis' discussion which I don't want but really don't think that's down to any individuals. What he has done though is made us as a squad fitter over 90 minutes, we run more, we run longer and we run harder. (Got no metrics so only going off the eye...) I've loved watching him in the videos, doing the tour with new signings before murdering them with running with a big grin on his face. Talking to somebody senior at another club who said we've introduced loads of new technology and use different metrics behind the scenes since Rennie arrived which other clubs have been trying to copy and replicate. Whenever people refer to Nige as a dinosaur I always point out that the person he puts the most faith in is the Science, modern thinking Rennie. I think we will miss him and seems a thoroughly good bloke

I don't think it would happen but don't think I'm against Lampard quite as much as everybody else. Would give the club a big profile raise and there's no way he would come without being given a budget. Did an OK job at Derby and as alluded to before went to Chelsea too early and Everton was never going to be the right fit. One thing that does put me on edge with any new manager but Lampard in particular is expensive loan signings. I've got used to us not having and then subsequently trying to replace them year after year. Selfishly, my eldest has just started reading his books, think it would be pretty exciting for him so for that reason alone bring him in

Official Twitter could be interesting later

I've actually been impressed with Rooney's Managerial stints and showed lots of skills, grit and a genuine desire to succeed in tough circumstances at Derby. He really grew on me and have wanted him to succeed as a manager since then. However, this seems like madness from Birmingham... They were brilliant against us earlier this season, had a clear identity and philosophy and were better all over the pitch in every area. Felt like they were on the cusp of having a side that could challenge for Play offs so this just seems really like a really bizarre decision... Bizarre until you consider the potential documentaries anyway

Is the answer until January dropping one of the Midfield 3 (probably Williams) and playing Weimann/Conway in there? I actually think Conway's best position is playing in the role that Weimann did a couple of years ago when he scored 20. Almost as a second striker, playing close to Wells/Cornick but able to drop off and find space in the number 10 spot too. Think of our current group, he's the one I would back to take a ball on the half turn in the centre and drive at the opposition. It then allows him to find space for crosses and also late runs in behind and hopefully get some decent chances for him.

Scott Brown when playing for Cheltenham against us is another! Pretty sure he collided with his own teammate (Odejayi?) as he was shooting and got the full force of it and he was a big boy. I wasn't very old and can remember saying 'did you hear his shin pad break then!' Sadly it obviously wasn't the shin pad Edit - Just googled, it was Damian Spencer he collided with not Odejayi.

Feels like we were a bit of luck away from being 4/5 points better off. Also feels like 23 other teams would probably be saying the same thing... I think we are where we are on merit and there's certainly enough positives to suggest we may improve our position between now and January. It also feels like we are very light in some areas and the International Break has come at a good time to rest and aid players with injuries/niggles. Would like to see us hit a good run of form between now and January and be in a position to 'go for it' within FFP reason. That doesn't mean try dropping an extortionate amount on Diony but continue our model of signing young, hungry players who can compete for the first team. Two of those in the right areas (which may change between now and then) could potentially define our season and whether we finish 4th-10th or 11th-22nd... Now we could also suffer 3 or 4 injuries over the next 6 weeks and be in a relegation battle but I hope not...

Fair play to him. Was one that I didn't think would breakthrough and thought his spells at wing back would shatter his confidence and belief as he looked truly lost. However, in a weird way and the same with Scott, long term it might actually have worked wonders for his development. Physically he looked small and even with his pace couldn't beat a man or got done by a winger, now he's able to run in behind and beat a man which he couldn't do before. Mentally, he would have learned what he needs to do at this level and rose from the challenge instead of shirking it, now he's established he hopefully has the belief he can keep improving. He's made that Left Wing spot his own so far this season, huge credit to him along with the coaching and medical team to get him in this position. I know we say it a lot at the moment, but I don't think we will properly appreciate the talent crop we've just had until they're all gone, even with the best academy and coaching in the world you can't guarantee success or development. This pipeline isn't guaranteed forever so while enjoy it whilst we've got it, one thing I will add, if we get a reputation it will naturally increase our ability to get bigger fee's especially if Scott takes off this year. Look at Peterborough with strikers, it's just accepted you have to pay 3x their value just because it's Peterborough, but people still do it as there's this perception of success. If we can begin having that sort of impact in the market then that will help!

Of players currently playing and on the way down career wise it would be Korey Smith for me, loved him for us especially that promotion year. Can see Pack potentially making a move their next year, believe his family still live local and whilst I think he enjoys playing for his local club it's a long distance from his family. Maybe that's their plan, to try and rebuild our promotion team with some of our 'Championship experience', JET is available and Wilbraham is in their age bracket...

I was wondering what was going on, logged in this morning expecting to see loads of positivity and was slightly disappointed by the lack of them! Thought people had ran out of things to moan about...

Feels like this has really started to click and we are seeing all of their respective skills and positive attributes enhance the team and the other 2 members. Williams and Knight as the 'busy bees' have been relentless and helped us win the ball a lot higher up the pitch especially first half West Brom and last night. Allows James to sit deeper and dictate the tempo of the play however it's worth noting that with Naismith's distribution James doesn't need to stand on the toes of the CB and helps gets him 10 yards further up the pitch as well. All of them are willing to cover and get stuck in which is evidenced by James goal last night, how often did we see him in that position last season? Once again, Naismith at CB enables a lot of this and is huge in getting the whole team up the pitch, we have fullbacks who are comfortable on the ball and can also tuck in as cover if needed. Whilst you could argue it's missing the creativity of a Scott/Palmer/Paterson type player I think the 3 players at the moment give us a really good balance, makes us really tough to beat and allows the front 3 to be our creative output. Thought there was a good cameo last night from TGH and showed what he can offer in that 3 as well, I worry what happens if James and/or Naismith get injured as think they're probably our two most important players in this system (whether in Midfield or Defence). Ultimately though at the moment, we're tough to beat, we work hard and we're getting bodies in both boxes when needed, feels like we can set up at home to win the ball high and put pressure on that way and Away can be more effective on the counter. There's going to be ups and downs throughout the season and not sure we'll be the most prolific of scorers but feel like we're doing everything we can and still going in the right direction.

Think you have to get Maddison in there the way he's started the season for either Foden or Grealish. I'm a big Grealish fan but think Foden has started the season better so would start with him left, Saka right and Maddison in the midfield 3. Playing Maddison, Bellingham, Saka and Foden allows Kane to drop deeper if he wants as well because all 4 of those can get in behind him. Ramsdale is still behind Pickford for me at the moment too. Hope Stones stays fit and Colwill really kicks on this year as our potential 11 for the Euro's could be fantastic, sadly we'll end up with a midfield 3 of Rice, Phillips and Henderson though...

Only 29 as well! Thought he looked incredible against us a few times in that Brentford team, but then he was playing a very specific role in a team with a clear plan and identity. As highlighted above he's not been able to replicate that anywhere since! Weirdly, at the right price is one I would have considered a gamble on here but is probably one of those players that looks better to opposition fans rather than those who watch him week in week out. (Barry Bannan...) Lots of passing, looks very pretty but little end result and playing in a team with lesser players will contribute even less and have weaknesses exposed.

O'Leary Tanner Vyner Naismith Roberts James Knight TGH Sykes Wells Bell If fit though I'd be amazed if Weimann didn't start, I would probably play him on the right for Sykes but can also see a scenario where Sykes starts at RB... Gone for Bell over Mehmeti simply for speed and give us an outlet on the counter.

People round me saying they were just as poor as us must have been watching a different game. Very tactically astute, physically dominant at the back with pace and creativity to burn out wide. Very good side and one to keep an eye on as outsiders. We were very poor but as a team they were so much better

Having scary visions of our away kit being that template with a White background and red robins/Purple with lime robins...

Bristol City F.C. 1) Where will City finish this season, Top 2, 3rd - 6th, 7th-12th, 13th - 18th, or 19th -24th? 7th-12th 2) What will be City's exact final League position? 9th 3) How many points will City get this season? 68 4) Will City win 18 (or more) league games this season? No 5) Will City score 60 (or more) League goals this season? Yes 6) Will City concede 60 (or more) League goals this season? No 7) Who will finish as City's top scorer, League & Cups? Andi Weimann How many goals in total will City's top scorer (whether the player named in Q7, or not) get? 17 9) Who will be City's 2nd top scorer, League & Cups? Tommy Conway 10) How many goals in total will City's 2nd top scorer (whether the player named in Q9, or not) get? 15 11) How many academy graduates will make their City debuts this season in League or Cups? 2 12) Who will make more 1st team apps. in all competitions, Harvey Wiles-Richards or Stefan Bajic? Bajic 13) Will City sign a new goalkeeper this season, either permanently or on loan? Yes 14) Will Alex Scott still be a City player on the last day of the season? No 15) Will Zac Vyner still be a City player on the last day of the season? Yes 16) Which of the new signings, McCrorie, Dickie, Knight & Roberts, will make the most appearances. this season in League & Cup? Knight 17) Which of these 4 players will make the least number of appearances? Roberts 18) Will Jason Knight score 5 (or more) goals in all competitions? Yes 19) Will Anis Mehmeti score 7 (or more) goals in all competitions? No 20) Will Harry Cornick score 8 (or more) goals in all competitions? No 21) Which month will Ayman Benarous make his first on - field 1st team appearance for City this season? November 22) Which month will Rob Atkinson make his first on - field 1st team appearance for City this season? December 23) Will City sign a striker either in this window, or the January window? No 24) Will Seb Palmer-Houlden score 10 (or more) goals for Newport in all competitions? No 25) Will he be recalled in January? No 26) Who will be City's player of the season? Jason Knight 27) What will be the Official attendance for City's first home League game against P.N.E. to the nearest thousand? 23k 28) What will City's average League attendance be this season to the nearest thousand? 20k 29) In which round will City be knocked out of the F.A. cup? 6th 30) In which round will City be knocked out of the Carabou Cup? 2nd 31) How many City players will be sent off in all competitions this season? 2 32) Who will be the first City player to be sent off this season? Tanner 33) How many penalties, in all competitions, will City be awarded this season? 4 34) How many penalties will City score? 4 35) How many penalties will be given against City this season in all competitions? 7 36) How many penalties will the opposition score? 6 37) Will any City player score a 1st team hat-trick this season? No 38) Which young City player out of Araoye, Yeboah, Leeson, Knight-Lebel, Francois & Taylor-Clarke, will make the most 1st team apps, in all competitions? Araoye 39) Will Nigel Pearson still be City manager on the last day of the season? Yes Gas 1) Will Rovers finish in the top half (1-12) or bottom half (13-24) of League 1? Bottom half 2) What will be Rovers final league position? 19th 3) What will be Rovers official average League attendance to the nearest thousand? 7k 4) Will Kane Wilson score against Rovers? No 5) Will Joey Barton still be Rovers manager on the last day of the season? Yes Rivals, Cardiff, Swansea & Plymouth 1) Who will finish higher, Cardiff or City? City 2) How many points will City get against Cardiff, 0,1,2,3,4 or 6? 3 3) Who will finish higher, Swansea or City? City 4) How many points will City get against Swansea, 0,1,2,3,4, or 6? 4 5) Who will finish higher, City or Plymouth? City 6) How many points will City get against Plymouth, 0,1,2,3,4 or 6? 4 Lee Johnson's Hibs 1) What position will Hibs finish in the SPL this season? 5th 2) Will Lee Johnson still be Hibs manager on the last day of the season? No Ashton's Ipswich 1) Who will finish higher, Ipswich or City? Ipswich 2) Will Ashton still be at Ipswich at the end of the season? Yes Old Boys 1) Will Joe Bryan score for Millwall against City this season? No 2) Will Antoine Semenyo score 7 (or more) goals for Bournemouth in all competitions? No 3) Will Kasey Palmer score against City this season? No 4) Will Callum O'Dowda score against City this season? No Championship 1) Which club will finish top of the Championship? Leicester 2) Which club will finish bottom of the Championship? Sheffield Wednesday

Wouldn't be surprised if this has come from us to encourage any late comers to the party! The deal probably is close with Bournemouth but making it clear that the door is still open for anybody else for now