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That's the away kit, this whole discussion is about the home kit where the "flag" is visible on the back of the collar when worn.

Why do people play dumb when it comes to England and why this can be seen as disrespectful to the country the kit is suppose to represent? If this were another country, I can't help but think those not understanding the issue would suddenly understand the concept of a national flag being a symbol of a nation, one that has specific colours that are key identifiers of that nation's flag. This is also coming at a time where there is clearly an orchestrated push to erode English identity and pride, and from a company that is very deep into the identity politics culture war does make this seem more than a playful redesign. Symbolism and its importance is a well known concept to the left, the pride flag, Palestinian flag, raised fist of power etc. so how come when it's with England they act dumb?

Bit of a downgrade, but best of luck to them, would love to be wrong on this one!

He did a good job for us, hope he lands on his feet.

I wish, but judging the happy clapping on here last night and this morning, we will roll over and accept it once again, then force excitement for their next masterplan.

That's brilliant, sums up the fans reaction nicely.

Yep, complete deja vu. We'll be here again in a year or two.

How is he progressive? Apart from being young. How will he utilise this squad better than Pearson did? How is he an improvement to what we had before?

This is how I feel, he might be ok, (in league 1, for a quarter of a season so far) but he is by all measures a downgrade on what we had just over a week ago. This is the biggest gamble they have taken and shows that they would rather have a unknown who will not question their authority than a proven quantity that didn't completely toe the line.

You can blame that on Jon and Brian, telling us our squad is top 6 worthy. By their estimations he should hit the ground running. No excuses.

But that would prove that they (JL, BT) are massively mistaken about the current ability of our squad or that they simply lied to us. Both are extremely worrying. Not to mention indicating that they purposely sabotaged Pearson by not allowing him those same funds in the summer.

Absolutely, I said people would roll over and accept the Lansdowns' meddling once again, like with Millen, LJ and Holden to name a few. At some point we as fans have to take a stand against those running the club.

Exactly, can't quite believe people are already trying to make excuses for Manning. JL made perfectly clear they expect top six with this squad. So why wouldn't he expect that with Manning? Unless of course he has lied to us again.

Absolutely nothing exciting about a league one yes man. This really feels like LJ 2.0 I hope we don't roll over and take this like all the other, cheap, yes men appointments after being lied to by the Lansdowns at the beginning of the process. But who am I kidding of course we will.