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Sorry you don’t believe Hamilton is superior to Bottas? George Russell isn’t a novice driver driver. He is someone that, up until today, had beaten his teammates in qualifying 36 times in a row, a record only beaten by Schumacher and Senna.

All the televised games in the ‘Central’ group are being played at Edgbaston.

Glad that ******* idiot is ‘trusted’.

The Arteta news coming less than an hour after the Premier League announced it was business as usual for the weekend!

Yeah I had the same thought earlier.

Arteta has tested positive.

Always enjoy reading your posts @BobBobSuperBob but as someone who plays Football Manager on PC I’m offended by any comparison with Lee Johnson!

So how many minutes do they want against ten men next week? As clearly 84 isn't enough.

Somerset Lalala.

Good for them. Maybe this can be moved off Football Chat now.

You are so boring.

Agreed.

So the fixture list comes out on June 19th 2013. When do Bristol City decide to rearrange a game planned for April 19th 2014? Oh, April 10th 2014 of course.

I hope you're not on about me Timothy, I happen to be a fan of yours.

You've got to be on a wind up haven't you? You seem to be trying to paint this image that when it comes to personally insulting people I 'can't help myself' and then copy 4 lines when I haven't even done it? If being told that you're chatting b******* of any kind is 'personally insulting' then I've been personally insulted more times than I care to remember without even realising. Bit upsetting. I assume you went around the forum picking people up the O'Drosscoll name that is even more hilarious than my David Brent/Mike Bassett comment? Thanks for your comment that I've made some 'reasonable points' though. I guess one of us had to.

Again, superb. 'why would you feel the need to say those things?' You sound like an upset 13 year old. Are you ok? And yes 'I'm a winner' is not only b******* (he's a manager struggling along in the third tier), but to go back to the David Brent comparison does sit along as being as egotistical as Brent describing himself as 'chilled out entertainer'. So yes, egotistical b*******. I personally can't see how that is even in doubt. As for the '50% David Brent, 50% Mike Bassett' line I'm glad you found it hilarious, sadly I can't claim it as my own and full credit has to go to the Forest fan I copied it from. And yeah fair cop, I probably wouldn't go and call him it if I was in the same room as him, but if I was next to him when he was being interviewed the other day I would happily have told him that referring to himself as a winner (funnily enough people like Martin Johnson let others give them that label) was 100% egotistical b*******. You enjoy the game Saturday by the way?

Haha, superb. If pointing out that Steve Cotterill has been guilty of spouting b******* in the media throughout his managerial career gets me a place in the 'hall of shame' then at least I won't be lonely as I'm hardly unique in pointing that out. By pointing it out, I'm not even making any judgements or criticising his personality let alone not supporting him in his task to keep us in this tinpot league . Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho have been known to chat complete and utter s*** in the media, surprisingly I wouldn't doubt their managerial ability or not support them in some parallel universe in which they're managing City. However, yes after witnessing what I think maybe the worst performance I have ever seen from any City team (what an achievement that is) his 'I'm a winner' comment greatly irritated me. What does it mean? What is it achieving? It's just a pointless, futile comment which serves as nothing more than a soundbite to try and distance himself from the players on the pitch who, by implication, are losers. 'We were abysmal today. That's tough to take because I'm a winner'. Well I guess the good news is that I found that performance pretty damn hard to take, so I guess that makes me a winner. Excellent news. Equally, I was stunned to see David Moyes come out last night saying 'We were abysmal, but fortunately I'm a loser, so it's pretty easy to take'. This isn't City fans who didn't want him here having some sort of agenda, going through Twitter Saturday night there was people, from supporters to journalists, from many different clubs laughing at Cotterill, and by association City, because what a cringeworthy comment it was. I'll tell you why that performance should hurt Steve. It should hurt because anybody who backs their ability to manage any football team (as Cotterill clearly does and I have no problem with that), let alone our aimless rabble, must be questionning that ability after a team they are in charge of serves up that horror show. Not because you're a 'winner'. I'd be slightly disappointed if I was thrown the job and my team performed like that, let alone a somebody who's profession is football manager. I'm being naive of course, but I want reasons why were so bad, why Sheffield United were able to make it look like a cup tie against a team 4 tiers above us, why El-Abd is playing so poorly if he is someone that is good to enough to deserve a 3.5 year contract, why he has a fullback on the bench and another on the wing while he plays centre halves in their positions, what he is going to do to make sure that a- we improve this week and b-how that never happens again. That's what I want, not some arrogant soundbite that makes him sound like nothing other than a bang average lower league manager with ideas well ahead of his station. I'll be honest, I didn't want him here when he got the job, but I am doing my very best to not judge him earlier than I would someone who I wasn't against and in fact from time to time I have actually found myself defending him to people who I won't give him any chance. As much as his interview Saturday irritated me, I don't actually care that much about what any manager says when a microphone is shoved infront of him ten minutes after watching his team get totally and utterly embarrassed. What I do care about is from the Wolves game onwards (and I would actually say since the Watford cup game at home), with the notable exception of Leyton Orient we have been absolutely ******* dreadful. There have been or two steady enough performances since the turn of the year that have earned us draws and of course we managed to nick the Carlisle game, but we have been abysmal. As someone I know said the other day, you leave a game thinking that's as bad as you've ever seen, and then the following week, almost without fail, it is even worse. After we won a game against Carlisle that we did not deserve to I posted a relatively positive post on here saying that although we had been dire in that game, winning a game like that in which we didn't deserve to could do us the world of good going forwards. Fast forward 3 days and Coventry spend the opening 45 minutes taking the **** out of us. As I posted a few times when SO'D was coming in for abuse though, targeting any of our managers and laying all the blame at their door is a rather futile operation and doesn't get to the root of the problem which is why, as a club we seem to be rotten? It is all far too easy to decide in our heads that Millen, McInnes, O'Driscoll and Cotterill are all hopeless (as well as most of the players they have all signed) and maybe one or two of them are, but what are the chances of them all being so? There has to be a much bigger reason as to why we endlessly fail.

50% David Brent 50% Mike Bassett. That's our 'Cotts'.

Just an example of the egotistical b******* he has spouted in the media throughout his career. Although I have to say he actually seems to have improved somewhat with the media since his Portsmouth and Forest days where you could say with complete confidence that every single defeat would be put down to the referee or his own team missing heaps of chances. This is the guy after all that I remember saying his team had 'missed 19 sitters in that game'. Now fair enough, I didn't actually witness the game in question, but I think I've seen enough football to struggle to believe that his team had not only created, but managed to miss, 19 'sitters' in one game. You can also look at his interview with Sky after we beat Forest 1-0 the other year if you wanted an example of the crap he has been known to talk to the press. As for being a 'winner' unfortunately Steve that isn't a title you can give yourself. It is meant to be given to you by other people after achieving success. So if you want people to think of you as one (I can assure you not many people do at the moment) then instead of telling us, build a successful team and invite people to give you that label. Just a thought. Although Aizoon is correct when he says that he is not only louder than our previous manager, but also manages to avoid sniffling so full credit to him for that. My only issue with Cotterill is most of the time when he speaks I wish he was quieter, much quieter. As my mate said the other day, when he is on the radio it sometimes takes you a while to work out whether it is the manager of our team or a standard caller into Twentyman. 'The thing is Geoff, I'm a winner Geoff'.

Excellent post and I agree with everything you have said. However, the opening goal wasn't Flint's or Parish's fault as it was actually mine! Just after successfully clearing the one beforehand that you mention I decided it was a good idea to pipe up with 'at least Flint has stopped scoring own goals'. So yeah, egg on mine and I take responsibility for the own goal. Sorry everyone.

Apart from his off day Saturday that involved creating a chance for Cunningham that he should have done better with and 2 chances for Baldock that helped to spark the debate on this thread on whether he wastes too many chances. I've seen players have good games and do less.

You have to avoid Stockhausen's poetic licence!

That would of course be the ideal scenario. Although shifting Wilson and Fontaine (both of which still on contracts given to them when we were in The Championship), as we have seen in many other examples will be easier said than done.