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Worth remembering, but do we know if transfers sit under NP or Tinns? - Assumed the latter was now moved into a player recruitment role?

Adam El-Abd at LB? Think that sentence just gave me an aneurysm. Going to go lie down now. Others off the top of my head - Connor Lemoneigh-Evans, Aaron Amadi-Holloway.

Bold gives me hope. If we get Murphy in, if we can get one more midfielder and a forward in a similar manner. Could be (cautious) cause for optimism we may yet see more incomings.

Its more purchase with a trial period. Much prefer loans with options than just loans.

Gould knew the area, club, culture, and fans. All that good work is slowly being undone.

No faith in SL appointing anyone to CEO after Ashton - that simple really.

Suggest a struggling season battling relegation. This could get toxic quickly. If they expect fans to turn on NP faster than them they'll be in for a nasty surprise - at least in my opinion, especially in lieu of the sale of Scott and Semenyo with next to bare minimal reinvestment.

My view on SL is based on his 20-odd year stewardship of fixing his own **** ups. End of Story. The only proper progressive years after 2009 were under Keith Dawe. Coincidence? Bold is case in point - over spending then austerity wasn't just MA/LJ being the first rodeo was it? - the exact same happened with GJ. Hence the McInnes and O'Driscoll cost cutting measures. He. Does. Not. Learn.

Doesn't necassarily need to be owners - although I could name some examples such as Tony Stewart (Rotherham), Tony Bloom (Brighton), Matthew Benham (Brentford), Darragh MacAnthony (Peterborough), Steve Gibson (Middlesbrough), and the recently passed MIllwall Chairman John Berylson. Other solid owners include the likes of Simon Hallett (Plymouth), Doug King (Coventry - but possibly too early to judge), Andy Holt (Accrington), among others. All either had philosophies (see Benham, Bloom, Jenkins (former Swansea), MacAnthony, Holt) or were hands off, and accepted consultants or appointed experience CEO/Chairman (See our period under Dawe, Steve Kavanagh under Berylson at MIllwall, our current CEO Alexander under Parish). Case in point, the previously referenced example of Dawe here - viewed it as stewardship and job - wasnt emotional over involved like how SL tends to act (see Tinnion and LJ Appointmentsa as Manager). 'Proper' owners can be quite a wide and vague term, but its either owners who act as guardians of the club and appoint under themselves and advisors (Millwall), or stratagem and cultural figure heads such as Benham, Bloom, and MacAnthony. SL doesnt have the knowledge or nouse to seemingly appoint under him - see MA for reference who had no controls over him like he now does at Ipswich under O'Leary. Namely because his son is our utterly useless crayon-wielding chairman. Emotions and nepotism never work well in football.

Disagree. The club have all the facilities required. Would depend on whether Ashton Gate Limited(?) Would be included as part of the sale.

Agreed - however if we by the fact the club were in line with FFP after the Semenyo sale (and willing to try keeping Scott) - surely that leaves some headroom to help out NP with more reinvestment than has occurred and has been rumoured (£1m for Thomason) thus far. Added to the further wage reductions from Baker, Kalas, Bentley, Kose, Martin, Moore and Massengo also fairly outweighing the wages in from Dickie, McCrorie, Roberts, and Knight.

Bit in bold is the key. Backed LJ to the hilt as he was a friend. But can't trust the consummate professional in NP as he doesn't get along with him. At least that's my take. LJ got 75% retention of sales fund as spending budget - in spite of over £30m in wages annually. In a completely non-sustainable stratagem as proven by COVID. Nige has spent at most £6m while bringing in over £34m. Effectively 20%.reducing the wage bill by almost 30% - the only seasons LJ had a wage budget similar or less were his first two; Nige finished 5 points better off with a younger and smaller squad in 14th compared to LJs 17th, the latter also had Tammy bailing him out. Secondly, cant get the Luton comparison interview out of my head. 100% need new ownership. For all the money he's put in - SLs decision making (outside of appointing Dawe chairman) has been a sh*t show.

Forgot about Naismith to be honest.

To be fair - think it's less FFP and more SL. That interview and the Luton references, NP aside, is still giving the the shivers.

Bold is key - they need to be as certain as possible to use the appeal, thereby cutting wastage. As any review should be for a clear and obvious error. No use, for example, wasting it on a subjective throw in.

100%. My (and this is an opinion) view on it, is that 4-3-3 is predominantly a wing play or counter attacked system. None of our midfielders bar Knight are mobile enough, especially in the transition nor off the ball. We need a Scott replacement ASAP. We need McCrorie fit with Tanners woeful forward play so far this season. I'm significantly worried about the lack of links or rumors for signings, if Murphy comes in and that's it that's tantamount to basically asking NP to be sacked. Need a GK, DM, CM, ST, minimum. Hypothetically, examples of which could include the following from my post in the Scott money thread - Southwood (Cheltenham), Iroegbaunam (Villa), Styles (Barnsley), Zeqiri (Brighton, Loan). Lead to the team looking something akin to: Southwood, McCrorie, Vyner, Dickie, Roberts, Iroegbaunam, Knight, Styles, Sykes, Mehmeti, Zeqiri; with bench of - O'Leary, Araoye, Pring, Tanner, James, Williams, Yeboah, Wells, Bell. Good cover and still space for rotating a couple youth players, brings the age of the midfield down from, adds more strength and mobility and covers us for James, King, and Williams contracts ending end of season. But then I'm not the manager nor head of recruitment.

Lost all our scouts when MA left and still recovering aren't we? He headed his own 'agency' which he took with him to Ipswich, in effect.

VAR should be an appeal system where the captain of each side, if they feel aggrieved, they can appeal said decision and it go for review - similar to the rugby. 2 appeals per team, so have to be used wisely.

I was at that point after the Holden debacle, and have been since.

SLs done stupider things before. Like hiring LJ.

Not really Tanners game. Think we're desperate for McCrorie to get fit.

Had a quick 15 minute crack at some basic figures from some older spreadsheets I have, gave them a quick update. *Confirmed Initial Fees Only, If undisclosed rumoured fees at time utilised Season Manager Transfers Out Transfer In Loans In (Number) Net Wages (Per Annum) Y-Y Wages Change %-wise * within 5% +/- considered Nuetral 15/16 Cotterill £3,000,000 £250,000 5 -£2,750,000 £17,400,000 £6,200,000 55.4% 15/16 Johnson £400,000 £0.00 6 -£400,000 16/17 Johnson £12,000,000 £12,000,000 4 £0 £20,900,000 £3,500,000 20.1% 17/18 Johnson £13,000,000 £3,000,000 4 -£10,000,000 £27,300,000 £6,400,000 30.6% 18/19 Johnson £11,000,000 £27,000,000 3 £16,000,000 £30,600,000 £3,300,000 15.8% 19/20 Johnson £29,500,000 £45,000,000 4 £15,500,000 £33,000,000 £2,400,000 8.8% 20/21 Holden £1,000,000 £3,500,000 2 £2,500,000 £35,300,000 £2,300,000 7.5% 20/21 Pearson £0 £0 0 21/22 Pearson £2,300,000 £1,300,000 0 -£1,000,000 £30,300,000 -£5,000,000 -14.2% 22/23 (est*) Pearson £1,400,000 £11,000,000 0 £9,600,000 £27,500,000* -£2,800,000 -9.2% 23/24 Pearson £4,000,000 £20,000,000 £16,000,000* £28,000,000* £500,000 1.8% Manager Net Spend Net Wages Impact % Reinvestiture of Sales Cotterill -£2,750,000 £6,200,000 N/A Johnson £21,500,000 £15,600,000 75.75% Pearson £8,600,000 -£7,800,000 23.84% Long story short - LJ got back 75% retained funds of transfers as money to spend - currently, Nige has had 25%.

Judging the comments in regards to wage bill as Nige has mentioned - think you need to look upstairs as for why they aren't happening. That with SLs comments (Luton comparisons) have me greatly concerned we may not bring anyone in, or if we do it'll only be one, likely to replace Scott.

I'm of a similar opinion - don't know if it's just me but I feel the injuries have guttered what little pace he had left. Playing him and James in the pivot at the moment is suicide. For someone who isn't the strongest he looks slower than Matty much of the time now - way too slow on the ball. And as you say the difference when Naismith came on was telling. Latter starts for me next game.

Literally off the top of my head. But my estimate was indeed between £5.5-6m.