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Anyway back to sports. Assumedly most places are going into tier 2. For us that would mean 2,000 supporters. I wonder how many of those 2,000 will be basic admission and how many the club will use for corporate seats etc? I would assume the club would make more money from corporate packages, but will be interesting to see how this develops

Are you sure about this? I've not seen this 50% figure mentioned anywhere else

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I honestly think that they will go along the lines of this "free pass" that has been mentioned If you can prove that you are not infected there is no reason not to attend

Agree, I always assumed it would be from the Thursday But widely being talked about at the Wednesday

The return of crowds to outdoor sporting events is "something to celebrate for fans", says English Football League chairman Rick Parry. A maximum of 4,000 fans will be allowed at events in the lowest-risk areas when England's lockdown ends on 2 December, with up to 2,000 in tier two but none in tier three. Football across England's top four divisions has mainly been played behind closed doors since returning in June. "This is a welcome start," said Parry. "Fans have been frustrated, they're missing their football, so it's something to celebrate for fans, not just for the clubs. "We have to build upon it because what we're really looking forward to is getting fans back in rather more substantial numbers." Parry added that the financial impact of fans returning could be "very significant" for clubs in Leagues One and Two and even a "lifeline" for sides in the fourth tier. "But it's not just the money, it's a very welcome return to atmosphere," he told BBC Radio Four's Today programme. Parry said there was "a lot of hard work ahead" and the government's announcement of the new measures on Monday will have taken the clubs "a little bit by surprise" as they "weren't really expecting anything before Christmas". "Some clubs will still have safety officers on furlough," he said. "There is a lot of work to do quite quickly and it's really important that we get this right. "We've got to make sure that the clubs and the fans all behave responsibly." There are six Championship, eight League One and seven League Two fixtures currently scheduled for Tuesday, 1 December and Parry said the EFL will be "as flexible as we can be" if matches could be moved to 2 December to accommodate fans. However, he said they still need to wait to find out which clubs will be in which tier on Thursday and to get the "necessary permissions from the safety advisory groups". Parry added that the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) have been "incredibly supportive" and said it was "great to see that government does listen" after sports governing bodies had been pushing for the return of fans. He said the results of "extraordinarily successful" pilot events in various sports earlier this year showed fans could return in a safe manner. The pilot programme was paused in September amid a rise in coronavirus cases. The project, which saw the Sports Grounds Safety Authority and UK Sport working with Edinburgh University, found attendees had "high trust" in organisers to maintain their safety through measures like spaced-out seats and increased availability of hand sanitiser.

I find it a bit odd that the club were not already in contact, but maybe they didn't want to risk people changing their minds either way? A few guys I know are West Ham season ticket holders, they were asked before this season started whether they would be interested in being put into a ballot for tickets, and if they won who their "bubble" would include

Like before, I fully respect yours and @Sheltons Army opinion (among others), but we are on opposite ends of the spectrum we our views on this subject. I'm of the believe that as long as the correct measures are followed, for everyone from the moment they leave home to returning home. Pubs and public transport were working fine with the measures brought in, and with the social distancing added into the ground I would be very confident that it would be safe to return I do appreciate people don't always agree with this, but for me the returning of games is much more than just watching a game of football. As someone who still struggles with serious mental health problems I can't begin to tell you how much it would help someone like me During the last lockdown I was a guest of a company having a meal etc and watching the Norwich game at the ground, the impact of just being around familiar surroundings and the odd familiar face was massive That can't be denied, but I wonder how much is down to people not following precautionary measures?

Scientifically it has been proved that with the correct preventative measure the virus doesn't transfer between people Public transport has coped very well with the measures in place

Apologies @Son of Fred and @Bob Taylor is GOD predictive text on my phone Should have said BRI not Bristol as you both correctly highlighted Figures from a neighbour who is a surgeon at Weston hospital, these figures were from a conference call last night

Out of the did anyone hear this?

As of last night the BRI had 99 patients and Weston had 24 patients with coronavirus, Weston only has 3 in CCU. The large numbers are self isolating and having very little impact on NHS

I really don't understand what you can base this on, I appreciate this is your opinion but please read up on the preventative measures that will be in place. Do you honestly think grounds would be being reopened if there was any risk? It simply wouldn't happen

You can't be serious? Stop looking at the negative in the situation. If we are to split 4,000 around the ground. There's more than enough capacity for that number. A socially distanced pub I was drinking in had a capacity of 84 people and easily coped with two urinals and a cubicle for men and two cubicles for women. It's been proven to work elsewhere, it will work fine for us

As pointed out to me by a friend, the problem would be staff at the stadium. Selling tickets to those in specific areas would be the easier part of reopening

3rd kit?

Yes, as before. Travelling between areas was not restricted in the same country

You are obviously entitled to your opinion but it's a shame how you focus on all negative points. You need to research how clubs that have been letting fans in already, that explains and proves your points are incorrect. You surely realise that there's staggered entry times and points, people will become checked on arrival and show ID to prove they're the person who purchased the ticket.

I see Rovers have made an appeal following Boris' announcement about numbers being allowed back into grounds They are appealing for people with spare time on their hands to go along to the minimal to help get the crowds up to 4,000

Find out who is happy to return Find out who's in that bubble Those go into ballot to purchase tickets

Please tell me you understand the difference between a family in a close knit small environment compared to people socially distanced going through numerous safety checks

Bonus point may be the aim here? In one way its a great game to get out of the way

High court has ruled in favour of Rebekah Vardy in the first stage of libel case against Colleen Rooney Justice Warby met lawyers from both parties yesterday for a "meanings hearing", specifically looking at the the word "account" being used (see post above) Colleen Rooney had implied that it was Rebekah Vardys "Account" rather than Rebekah Vardy herself that was the source of the leak Judge Warby ruled in favour of Rebekah Vardy that there was no proof it was her leaking the news Judge Warby finished by saying "Over a period of years Ms Vardy had regularly and frequently abused her status as a trusted follower of Ms Rooneys personal Instagram account by secretly informing The Sun newspaper of Ms Rooneys private posts and stories, thereby making public without Ms Rooneys permission a great deal of information about Ms Rooney, her friends and family which she did not want made public" Costs awarded against Colleen Rooney for £22,913 Both have until February 8th 2021 to mediate before it goes to a full libel trial

Let's hope hesgoal is on form this weekend