Loco Rojo

I'm disapionted that some on here seem to be defending the kid/s from running on the pitch. The rules are very, very clear and cannot be confused. The club and authorities have made it as simple as possible for everyone - don't do it - the line is there, no need to cross it and no one can say they didn't know. End of. Now, if as a parent, you think your little prince or princess is exempt and this very simple, easy to follow rule doesn't apply to you or yours, then you accept the consequences of your selfishness (ban, fine, manhandling, whatever it is). You should be the ones apologising and disciplining your kid/s and yourself for allowing it. Perhaps, even educate them a little. Also consider the impact of your action of allowing your kid/s to do this potentally contributing to the club being fined. Why would any fan want to risk this? Really does suprise me that this issue causes a debate which some think it's ok to do.

Or perhaps parent/s should learn to control their kids and stop them from running on the pitch. Always someone elses fault though right.

Am i the only one that this sits uncomfirtably with? So many people have been injured, missing or have died in this tragedy but because he's a footballer and used to play in the PL he gets his own article - a bit like he is getting special 'celebrity status' attention. It feels distastful and disrespectful to so many others impacted. Not singling out OTIB as its the same over on the BBC. Don't get me wrong, i'm pleased he's been rescued and is safe - as with many others they are rescuing.

One of the PLs pized assets. I can't see anything too impacting happening to them. The footballing powers that be will want to protect the cash cow Premier League and vast sums of money it and teams like Man City attract. Fine at most in my opinon + i bet this will take years to get through the legal process and various challenges and appeals that it'll be old news by the time the slap on the wrist is given.

The moaning on here! What do people think is going to happen to prices (ST and match day) if City ever get to the PL?

I still think we need to be pragmatic here. We're had a good transfer window on paper and i like what Nigel and the team are doing. We've been able to free up wages (releasing Klose and Martin) and bring in some fresh faces, but they will need time to settle and integrate with the team and Nigel's tactics and instructions. Hopefully OTIB won't have a melt down after 5 minutes in our next game if the new guys have scored a hatrick of goals or assists!

Good to see the article suggesting they'll cover the wages too. So assume saving us c£150k (my calculation could be way off) between now and the end of June plus the compensation? Every little helps. It's a real shame it may end like this though as i think he's a great player and would've loved for him to stay. Also, doesn't the window for transfers abroad stay open for a bit longer beyond Tuesdays domestic deadline?

Wow - insane how short that was. Only 59 days in the job. Zero wins in 9 puts the pressure on.

I can't disagree with your frustration, but the business of football is all about greed and wealth (whether that's financial, status or obtaining the best players). It'll never change (or enough) to make it more sustainable for the lower leagues because there's too much greed for making the PL the best. The whole sport is driven by getting to the top, stepping on others to get there and being rewarded for it. If i'm honest, it's difficult for me to complain about what's fair or unfair when being on the receiving end, when i know our club would do the same. Like you say, i'm sure it could change - anything can - but those in charge wouldn't want it to, or would make it impossible if it meant damaging the brand financially.

No disrespect intended, but i disagree completely (i guess that's what a forum is all about). We'd be attempting to 'raid' which ever club we could to try to get the best players we felt could help save our PL status - and we'd be trying to do it for as cheap as possible (or at least i hope we would). I don't believe for one second there would be any sort of principles of honour or lost sleep from City for trying to take the best talent from lower divisions if we were in Bournemouths position. In fact, i would prefer we did that (if it meant we could get the best players that improved us/could develop) rather than we spend larger sums of money on players in the PL/from abroad. All clubs would do the same. That's just football and business.

We'd be doing the same to save our PL status if positions were reversed. Just business.

So attempted Fraud then. If this was the average person, there would be severe consequences. If i was a Cardiff fan, i'd have walked away from that club by now but this would certainly be the last straw. I'd be ashamed to be associated with them. Vile club. Feel sorry for the fans.

So many variables to consider aren't there? Hopefully we can get a really good deal out of this (and of course, he stays injury free, develops and can have a great career for himself). For all his faults, Ashton did manage to get some great income from the outgoing star players. Hopefully people behind the scenes can keep that trend going.

I hear what peoples arguments are that the longer we keep Scott his value increases (assuming he continues to develop) which i agree with BUT, are clubs likely to pay an increased fee above what we'd accept now (say for example the £25m people put on here) whilst his contract is running down in say 1 year, 2 years? (assuming he doesn't sign this new offer). Thats a lot of money for a bottom end PL club to spend and I think we're more likely to see teams wait until this contract expires and then get him for free/compensation ala HNM. I know there's potential for desperate clubs to splash out to save their PL status if near relegation but could they spend the money better elsewhere. Buying from abroad seems to be cheaper. I wonder if we're going to see more players winding down contracts and then moving on and it'll become the norm that ours (and other clubs star players) often leave for nothing/very little.

I don't think i'll ever see City in the top flight in my lifetime. If i was in Alex's position knowing i could potentially play in the PL sooner and earn a bucket load more, i'd only sign an extention here with an agreed release clause fee that i was happy with (at the moment i assume there isn't one in his current contract). Because at least then i'd have some control over a future say in leaving. If the release clause fee we include is unrealistic, I wouldn't sign it. Of course, Alex might be the type of person that just loves playong football and wants to play his entire career here and won't include a release fee! ? So whilst it might be a clause that puts some clubs off, it means we have less strength in having a say on him staying (e.g. if someone matches that clause fee i assume City have no say in accepting it or not). Of cpurse, there could be endless additional clauses City could include i assume but if it gets too complicated i wouldn't sign it. I think our only position of strength now is the length of his current contract which is slowely ticking down.

Wow, i didnt know that. A good idea.

I've parked there before on non match day and was in and out quite quickly. I've just checked the City Website and the rules are detailed here https://www.ashtongatestadium.co.uk/getting-here/ (scroll down to the 'By Car' section. Not sure if the link will work so...

Bournemouth are preparing a £50,000-a-week deal to tempt Ghana's 23-year-old forward Antoine Semenyo from Bristol City. (Sun on Sunday) from the BBC Gossip page

Who ever dors it, can you tell them we always have £50m transfer war chest to spend each season? ? I hate starting with £0.

Thanks chaps. I feel like i have my own support group ? (i'm not getting nervous, honest).

Or no club is willing to meet our valuation/s, his contract winds down and he leaves for nothing/compensation like others have done. I feels like more clubs are coming around to the idea of not spending huge sums of money anymore and waiting for contracts to end and get players for very little/free. Tricky one isn't it.

Ok, can i be the first to say Ryley Towler? Or is it too soon?

JET! Remember thinking at the time, it was like that one relationship that ended when you didn't want it to. ??(tragic, i know). A frustrating player to watch at times, but one of the most gifted. What a talent he had.

Does it matter who we sell our best players to? As long as we get the best price we can so we can improve the clubs finances and hopefully re-invest some as well then i'm happy. Ultimately, i'd prefer not to have to sell any of our better players but this is football and you can't stop players from moving on, especially to the PL (plus we need the money).

Very well said.