Alessandro

Just for clarity, what were my "worst words"? And also can you find the point where I said BT has "done nothing for the club since he's been brought back"? So yes, you have put words in my mouth. You may be annoyed with people giving Tinnion abuse, you seem very protective of him, fine - but I am not one of those people giving him personal abuse, i've actively it actually. So go and reply to those people directly about that if you want, not me. This is a BCFC football forum, all i'm doing is debating the job he's doing at BCFC and the quality of his opinion.

Agree apart from bold part. Those following OTIB for the last 2 weeks (or even following the club for the last 20 years!) have seen everything that has panned out called virtually to the day - there is more than enough information out there to blow holes in what SL and the board are saying vs. doing...again.

I think you've put a few words in my mouth there. As I said, I feel for him - he clearly has played a big role, alongside many others, in finally getting our academy sorted and up and running and producing at the levels it should have 10/15 years ago. No one is taking that away from him. My question would be, does that qualify him for the role he's now in? Personally i'd like a more ambitious appointment - but as always, we wait and see and time will tell, as it always does in the end what his legacy will ultimately be.

Yes this is very true - could well be self-preservation. When the, absolutely spot on, rumours about NP's sacking, even down to the timing of it - were starting to appear on OTIB weeks before the event....so too were very strong rumours, from the same sources, that Tinnion was briefing against NP, at the time along the lines of "he never comes to training anymore...". So I think a few are inclined to believe that too, given the rest was all true - yeah we don't know if he was leading or following though, but he is a key (one of 3) part of the process, that's the job he took.

I do feel a bit sorry for Tinnion TBH - Clearly a Bristol City man through and through, in large part due to the fact that the vast majority of his footballing life has been at BCFC. But there's the problem - good player, failed (badly) manager. Little CV outside our club and what the fans see is him working his way up the greasy pole and it looks like more cronyism, something that is cancerous at this club under SL. Suddenly he's going from being co-host of Robins TV and being the go to man for youth prospect info and development...to being instrumental in firing one of the most popular managers for decades, and people are rightly asking, hang on, how did that happen. Has he earned that? Clearly many think, no. Pearson vs. Tinnion on footballing matters...sorry there's only one winner. A very harsh lesson these past two weeks for Tinnion that with power comes responsibility and consequences.

I agree there are too many personal attack on here at the moment but I do feel the vast majority of posts are sensible debate based around 'performance' rather than 'personalities'. However; not as a justification, but discussion point - the disdain with which Lansdown(s) and Tinnion have treated the fans (or should I say customers) with the - strong words but a spade's a spade - lies and arrogance of a) their words and actions and b) those 2 awful, awful statement interviews - frankly if that's the way you treat people, you set yourself for it.

Don't think anyone has suggested any injury conspiracy theories, or anything along the lines of your active imagination there...you seem to be the one jumping to conclusions IMO.....?! More that on Sunday NP and DR were fired, in part due to injuries and a day or so later, 4 key players (who DR would have got/been getting back to fitness) and NP would soon have at his disposal - are back in training. They would have known that and therefore not giving NP a chance to see how we get on with a few less injuries - given with a fuller squad we've been in/within touching distance of the play offs (the clubs expectation, as we've been told...) - would have seemed fair. I think IMO people are more interested in the continued 'contradictions' coming out of the hierarchy of the club.

5-1 now - you lot been splashing out?!

Good post - as far as they are concerned it's all clearer than ever - "THE TESTAMENT OF TINNION" Challenging the top 6 is expected. They believe this squad is good enough for that. Tinnion is leading the football side, our DOF in all but name and therefore ultimately responsible. Ethos/style is clear, high energy and press/buy cheap and develop - manager will work to that. So over to you then gents... But all joking aside, we all want this to work, don't **** it up Tinnion.

All emotions aside - whose football judgement do you trust more? Jon Landsown and Brian Tinnion or Nigel Pearson and Dave Rennie I know the answer to that all week and unfortunately the former have the casting vote. At least they've both spoken finally (chickened out of an actually outside interview) but it's a huge number of contradictions in both statements and the most worrying question for me is, do they actually believe what they're saying?? Because if they do, we are ****** with these guys at the helm.

Bullseye. I just do not know , cannot fathom, what is going through his head at the moment. Clearly he’s ‘had enough’ with City and the fans and wants out - so why not just take a huge step back and let NP get on with it, as he was doing, until he sells up? No he couldn’t help himself. The sacking smacks of jealousy of NP’s popularity - a spiteful act. As a big advocate of his over the years, I cannot understand how a seemingly normal, intelligent and successful man has backed himself into this corner - like a child saying “well he hit my first” - it’s absolutely pathetic. What a sad man. How on earth he, or anyone else cannot come out and speak to the fans now is beyond belief. You’re a guardian of our football club, something far greater than you, you’re not a god - this isn’t one of your businesses - you’ve lost the plot mate. I never, never thought it would happen but it’s Glazier-esque stuff. Any good you may have done is being wiped away, your legacy tarnished. Lansdown you’ve shown yourself unfit of the honour and responsibility of being the guardian of a football club. And what is also astonishing, but somehow not surprising - is that there is no one around him, no one at the club saying…hang on, this just isn’t right. The Lansdown’s are taking down everyone with them, every board member, every senior employee. They must be shitting themselves, but you reap what you sow - Gould, Ashton, Alexander, Pearson could also see through it and several got out before their reputations went down the toilet. NP went on for the fans, not for the board. But we see you now Steve - we see you. It’s over.

To be fair to them actually - today and tonight they will be busy on the phone to the agents of the managers that they will be lining up for interviews over next 2 days. Offer the job Wednesday - Thursday he goes home to mull it over. Friday in to meet players. Saturday introduced to the fans and watching the game.

Tinnion was bullish on twitter about being on Sound of the City - so presume he's stepping up tonight? Will be interesting to hear...

Timing of the next appointment will be interesting - feels like this time it needs to be a quick appointment. Earlier this week - they were already pretty much lined up. End of week/early next week - see above or TBF to the club they've got a plan, drawn up a list and got their man quickly. Anything into end of next week or week after - They had no plan and I will be worried the process not going as easily as they expected i.e targets are turning us down. IMO the new man should be at the Sheff Wednesday game, at least watching, if not in full charge yet.

Superb article @Ron W

Well we presume what will be expected from the new coach stays the same: develop youth, buy cheap and add value. Make the squad greater than the sum of it's parts. Work within tight (midtable) budgets. Eustace and Rowett have both done some of those things, but with quite defensive/hard to beat styles of play. Eustace fired in part IIRC for the football not being exciting enough for the owners? I really don't know - some of my best options I would say are in jobs currently. Could we poach someone like Liam Rosenior or more realistically a Steven Schumacher type? Micheal Duff widely considered an excellent coach at improving players too. The bigger names not in jobs I don't see working under all of those above conditions, unless SL promises them big cash to spend (change of strategy, again).

For all those fans saying, big deal sacking NP, he's just an expendable coach, a new one can come in and progress the team....here is the reality. That theory only works if you have a succession strategy, you have a vision and a plan - in terms of playing ethos and style and therefore manager. Do we have that?? Rowett appears, in footballing style terms, is very different to NP. So the squad NP has assembled doesn't on paper appear to suit Rowett's style. So from a squad/footballing point of view, SL could have us back at square one, with a manager (In Rowett's case with little/no record of success) who treads water for rest of season, wants a whole load of cash to rebuild in Jan/Summer and so the Lansdown cycle of stagnation goes on.

Yeah I don't want to be too negative because we are, or at least very much should be, an exciting prospect for a new manager. The potential is there. But for me, if I was a Dean Smith, Chris Wilder or John Eustace etc, i'd be left with a lot of questions about the job - the fact the owners are publicly trying to sell the club, the manner of NP's sacking, the available funds, will they have to continue to sell their best players, the current state of the squad etc etc. The management structure/board of the club would have any top coach concerned IMO - are the right people in the right places to enable them to do their job successfully? Irony is for all the development we've seemingly made as a club, now we're looking again for a new head coach, I feel like, and SL will find out again, we're still in a position where the best calibre managers at our level would rather stay on gardening leave and hold out for a 'better offer'. Again, I hope i'm wrong...

Maybe it's just me being negative, but sleeping on it, i'd be concerned that some of the more qualified managers on the available list simply won't take the job if offered anyway. We'll see - but if they read the clubs statement after sacking Nige (TOP 6?!) and look at the tools they'd have available....we've traditionally failed to get top, upcoming managers in anyway under SL....for some reason - I fear this trend will continue. Hope to be wrong. Rowett, doesn't particularly inspire me...but I actually fear for worse TBH.

Merge - This is just a view point from someone who wants their voice heard louder and have said nothing that can't be said on the "He's Gone" or many other threads already.

Just had a look on twitter to gauge the mood there and not just on OTIB - fair to say it's 100's if not 1000's of near 99% universal support of Pearson and disagreement of the club from both City fans and other football fans alike. EDIT - Same on Instagram - so much so that the club's social media team have (re)posted 3 away kit posts to try and push the NP leaving post out the lime light...

I’m not going to go all in on Tinnion regarding this decision, as it will have been SL’s don’t be in any doubt - but I have been quietly surprised at his gradual promotions up the ladder to positions that I’m not sure his experience, talent or ability is quite qualified for…actually that sounds quite harsh, apologies

Even in our days of ‘big spending’ the reality was our accounts showed how our wage budget was only ever, top half, top 10 approximately. Given the club have reduced that wage bill budget drastically, how can they justifiably expect a top 6 finish?

That’s what we’ve been doing for the last 20 years - where the hell has it got us?!?

I’d question which one of those ‘top’ options would actually come? Suspect it’s becoming more and more obvious in the football world that we have an owner who likes to meddle in first team matters. And the context of Pearson’s sacking will raise eyebrows outside the club. People talk. But look, there are some good options out there, proven track records. History (Tinnion, Millen, LJ, Holden) tells us it won’t be one of those, but another one of SL’s ego appointments.