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Sorry you don't follow my logic Never mind more worrying things to think on now with this defeat

Back now to usual otib divide. Realists v Blind Optimists

I still think Lee is quality but he may run out of time and luck SL's poor choices strike again in offering Lee an extension to his contract before, at least, season's end. Hope his decision doesn't rebound on the club as his last managerial choices all have

Yes but seldom for the better when the rot has taken a firm hold

I am not bothered how far off the top we are; I am bothered how near the bottom we are. This is now hardly a blip. Those of us who have supported City through the years have been here too many times before Thy need to pull their finger out TONIGHT, not in three weeks time. Minimum we need is a draw

Sorry. I agree don't think this an over reaction We are in trouble and digging ourselves deeper by the game

0-1 Really poor Can we rescue a point?

We really should be doing better than this at home

COYR We could really do with a win or the road ahead will become even rockier

Go for it, lad

Sorry you misunderstand the points I am trying to make. 1. Our current form is not midtable and unless improvement occurs it matters not what the first part of the season was like. It is always difficult to halt a slide. 2. My long term perspective, of eight decades, is to suggest that the usual default position for City in this league is that slides are seldom halted for more than half a season or so - as last season

I should be careful to joke about this!

My point is that at the moment we are NOT a mid table side in terms of the form chart. We need to act in January or the usual story in this league for City will be back on the agenda, i.e. being promoted with huge optimism only to fail within a very short time When you have supported City as long as I have then it is not a question of short term perspective but long term!

That's it then. Another defeat and only one win in six away from home. Simply not good enough, Lee. As I said a few weeks ago we need to be in a relatively safe position still by end of December before the 7th Cavalry ride to the rescue! So a difficult few weeks to negotiate yet

It's the end of the season we should be worrying about. A massive improvement is now needed However not surprising today as this week LJ was given an enhanced contract !

For everyone's sake play Lucic. The real question is not why we have been so poor over recent weeks, relegation form, but why for a brief moment we looked promotion material As I have said before, and been criticised for, this team, with literally only one or two exceptions, isn't promotion material let alone Premiership quality. Average Championship players at best. If we are to improve sooner rather than later then the dead, or at least dying, wood needs to be let go and quickly. Freeman, Little, Smith, Pack, Fielding etc are simply not going to take us to the next level in this league

If Freeman is as poor as people are saying then get rid in January I say

Well some plans do work Wilbs challenges heavily in the bos allowing Tammy an easy tap in, says Sky Sorry iPad playing up !

Well some plans do work Wilbs challenges heavily in the bos allowing Tammy an easy tap in, says Sky

How strong is the bench do we think? Reid, Bryan, Engvall or Brownhill and Moore to come on at half time ?

We need to bring some class in in the window. Still looking for class in midfield to get forwards away and stiffen defence - a midfield general in short. Oh, and while we are about it a winger who can take corners and free kicks with real menace

Not again conceding the first goal Getting so predictable. Oh well at least the team are used to the situation

Also Lee has intimated he sees Reid as Tomlin's long term replacement, plus Lee also said coaches working on Reid's close shooting So come on get us and Lee a goal.

No, a++ for Freeman !!

Hope crowd gave him big applause Maybe, just maybe, he can build on this and be the player some of us saw at Stevenage