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  1. 2 minutes ago, Cowshed said:

    I didn't state there's no chance, there is always a chance. I could post a list of games where adult female teams have done very badly versus U teams. My Sons former U15 development centre side beat a female WNL team, U15 males bullied adult females while holding back physically for fear of injuring their opponents. 

    I coach primarily males, and I have coached females the differences in physical capability from strength, speed and abc's are stark. I would support and have been involved in females playing with males till U14. Past that age there is a safety and safeguarding issue. It maybe be ok for adult females to play non competitive football, to participate in light training with adult males, it is not safe and it  is utterly foolhardy for adult females to play in competitive games and intense training involving contact against adults of the opposite sex. Females simply cannot physically complete. Males physically destroy females in football, if they desire. I in my advancing years can dominate high level adult (I have coached them) females physically, I would not even take part in SSG's because the risk of injuring a player is so high. 

    A Lucy Bronze is a wonderful female player. In the male game she would be slow, lacking power, and small in stature. That is the Lucy Bronze that scores headers at corners for England Ladies at the elite of the elite level .. She would be physically bullied in the male game. 

    Hence I state female football should be judged and admired as the female game it is. 

    Lucy Bronze plays for a team that plays against Barcelona U19 boys frequently and they always win now (after losing when they started playing against them). And Chelsea beat the U18s in the summer, without some of Chelseas best players as they were coming back from the WWC). 

    I'm not denying there is a physical advantage for men vs women, but I'm just stating that womens teams play against elite academies and start to win after they play them a few times.

    "My Sons former U15 development centre side beat a female WNL team, U15 males bullied adult females while holding back physically for fear of injuring their opponents." - I don't doubt this, but as women play more against men, they actually improve and then start to help the boys. This has been proven at clubs like Barcelona, Chelsea.. 

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  2. On 20/11/2023 at 13:17, Cowshed said:

    A national league team would easily. A Western league would likewise. Good standard male U18 again .. Its not a fair equivalence.

    Females cannot possess the pace and power of males, no amount of training will bridge that gap. 

    Female football should be judged by the game that it is. Female football. 

    This isn't actually true. Barcelona U19s played a few games years ago in pre season but and they lost, but now they beat them every season. Often by a few, I can't find some of these results but in 2020 they beat the U19s 7-0, and the women were missing a few key players. These games really help both teams, the women are much technically better, but the boys are faster and stronger so they both have to learn from their opponents in this regard. This has really helped Barca improve.

    Arsenal have started doing this, as do Manchester City. The problem is the bad publicity just allows men to tell us that it's not 'real football' (I'm aware this isn't what you're doing here)

    I don't know what level of mens football these teams would beat, but to say they have no chance of beating them is incorrect. It's a different skill and one that more womens teams are relishing in order to improve. 

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  3. Honestly no one really thinks there should be equal pay, but if you invest in the womens game, you can see how much it grows. 

    People going on about how much the mens game makes is in some way valid, but City lose £10m a year? The women don't. How come people think women should break even but the men don't need to? Basically no clubs break even (which is obviously because football is run ridiculously).

    But there does need to be better access to pitches, healthcare, research etc.

    Lots of the womens team salary in the in Championship were the same as just one week of our higher earners in the mens team.

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  4. Nigel Pearson: The message read: your brother was killed. I don’t recall much after that

     

    The Bristol City manager, who was 16 when his brother was killed in a car crash, talks about how that experience made him an angry young man

    Pearson makes the most of living in the Somerset countrysidePearson makes the most of living in the Somerset countryside
    SWNS:SOUTH WEST NEWS SERVICE
    Jonathan Northcroft
    , Football Correspondent
     
    Saturday August 19 2023, 6.00pm BST, The Sunday Times
    Day is gently giving way to evening and golden light blankets the riverbank where otters play. Nige likes to stroll here through fields, or park on the way from work, so he can watch them. “In that sluice,” he says, pointing to a river bend, “are freshwater oysters, would you believe.”
    We’re halfway between his home and Bristol City’s training ground. His love of this spot encapsulates a man only half-immersed in the world of football, who determinedly keeps the other half of himself rooted in what he considers the real world: the world of family, of genuine experiences and relationships, of nature, of reflection and thought.
    He is turning 60 tomorrow and the idea is an interview about how to age gracefully in a young man’s game. But being Nige — Nigel Pearson — he takes the conversation in unexpected directions. Like when he says that, despite enjoying being a manager as much as ever, he worries about carrying on too long to get through his bucket list, which includes competing in the Mongol Rally, a 10,000-mile motor odyssey in old bangers.
    As he speaks, in his bungalow backing on to a farmyard in the Somerset countryside, wind chimes chime and his campervan sits in the drive.
    A theme is loss. It’s been a strange summer. In quick succession four people he worked with, and felt close to, died: Trevor Francis, Gordon McQueen, Chris Bart-Williams and Dave Wilkes, his No 2 in his first management job, at Carlisle United.
    Losing Bart-Williams, ten years his junior, whom he captained in the Premier League with Sheffield Wednesday, was the biggest shock.
    “Watching old interviews he did reminded me what a fabulous lad he was,” Nige says. “Before away games he’d go to a West Indian fast food place in Wicker Arches and bring back chicken, rice and peas for me.
    Pearson, 60 on Monday, fears staying in management for too long would stop him completing his bucket list
    Pearson, 60 on Monday, fears staying in management for too long would stop him completing his bucket list
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    “When people die who are about your age or younger, it’s very sobering and reminds me I need to invest time in myself as well. Because who knows how long we’ve got.”
    Many of us only begin experiencing loss profoundly in middle age but, sadly, not Nige. He tells me about Marc, his brother, who died in an accident when Nige was 16. He hasn’t spoken about this to many people and certainly never publicly. A long-time friend who joined us for dinner in Clevedon was unaware.
    Nige is the youngest of three brothers. The eldest is Simon, and Marc was the middle one, a year older than Nige, and looked very like their grandfather, Percy Mills, a legendary player for Notts County: tall, strapping, ginger-haired. “Marc was a good footballer,” Nige says. “He turned down an apprenticeship with Mansfield to work at Rolls-Royce in Derby. I used to enjoy beating him at tennis because he had a ruthless streak in him, in sport, so when I won it would irritate him. You don’t always get on with your siblings.”
    Nige was in the sixth form in Nottingham and touring the United States with his college team when Marc died. “He was killed in a car crash,” he says. “Somebody he went to school with picked him up. Unfortunately they weren’t wearing seatbelts.

    Pearson in the dugout

     
    Matches
    Win %
    Carlisle United
    Dec 1998 to May 1999
    30
    16.67%
    Southampton
    Feb 2008 to May 2008
    14
    21.43%
    Leicester City
    Jun 2008 to June 2010
    107
    51.4%
    Hull City
    Jun 2010 to Nov 2011
    64
    35.94%
    Leicester City
    Nov 2011 to Jun 2015
    182
    46.7%
    Derby County
    May 2016 to Oct 2016
    14
    21.43%
    OH Leuven
    Sep 2017 to Feb 2019
    56
    32.14%
    Watford
    Dec 2019 to Jul 2020
    22
    31.82%
    Bristol City
    Since Feb 2021
    118
    32.2%
     
     
    Chart: The Times and The Sunday Times
     
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    “We were travelling around. We started in California, played games in Arizona, went down to New Mexico. The girls’ tennis team was on the tour as well. All good fun. We’d been out — to The Rocky Horror Picture Show. A group of teenagers on the lash and the problem was nobody [back home] knew where we were staying.
    “You’ve got to remember back then there were no mobile phones and my parents had to track me down. It must have been terrible for them.”
    Eventually he was passed a stark message: your brother has been killed. “I said, ‘Which one?’ I got a flight home the next day or two days later. I don’t remember too much after that. The whole experience was very damaging in some ways. I was just coming up to 17. Yeah, tough. Really tough.
    “It’s difficult to know what was in my head, and I probably wasn’t aware of a lot of stuff I was going through just because, like a lot of people do, you internalise it, and who knows how long that stuff stays with you?
    “There’s a lot in your life where it is difficult to quantify what it does to you. We’re all good at giving advice to other people: ‘Oh yeah, you have to talk about things.’ But most of us are guilty of not doing that thing we tell other people they should do.”
    His parents, especially his mother, never truly recovered and he remembers the jolting experience of seeing the driver of the car — who was unscathed, but whom he doesn’t blame — around town shortly after Marc’s funeral.
    Pearson celebrates Leicester’s promotion to the Championship in 2014 with his family
    Pearson celebrates Leicester’s promotion to the Championship in 2014 with his family
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    A year later Nige entered professional football, joining Shrewsbury Town from non-League Heanor Town, and describes himself as “probably quite difficult” back then. “I remember having a real go at [the first-team goalkeeper] Bob Wardle. I was in the reserves. I think the senior players thought, ‘What the hell is this?’ but I found the professional world difficult to start with. Dressing rooms were not easy environments, especially when you go in as a college boy. And there was a lot of anger in me about my brother.”
    However, things would settle inside him and Shrewsbury became a golden place. He wouldn’t swap his grounding. Pre-seasons when the squad ran up the Shropshire hills then went to the Crown pub opposite Gay Meadow for pints with the manager and directors, before trying to run it all off again the following day. Pay of 80 quid a week and holidays where he youth- hostelled in the Lake District. Being taught tricks of the centre-half trade by the gnarly Colin Griffin. Like what? “Well . . . he was very good at elbowing people in the face for a start.”
    After scaling higher playing heights with Wednesday and Middlesbrough — both of whom he captained to promotions and cup finals — he started in management back in humble surrounds, at Carlisle. There Wilkes and his other assistant, John Halpin, were always having to ring round to find a practice field because the River Petteril had flooded the grass behind the stadium where they were expected to train. “We’d arrive at some pitches and go round picking the dog shit up with our little training cones. That was every day.”
    Michael Knighton was chairman and sold Carlisle’s only fit goalkeeper on deadline day. Nige signed an out-of-favour Swindon goalkeeper, Jimmy Glass, who kept Carlisle in the league by scoring at a corner in stoppage time of their final game. “I think, ‘If we’d gone down . . .’ The effect it would have had on my career.
    “And you have to remind yourself you are not always in control. The line between success and failure is so fragile and you can’t control everything. The managers who want total control damage themselves and damage people around them. One thing I’ve learnt is sometimes you’ve got to run with things and let them go their own way and have a subtle touch. It’s like steering a big bloody boat.”
    You accrue such management insights over time. His others involve the importance of authenticity, of having “diversity of characters” in a coaching staff, and that culture and craft knowledge are passed on almost better by good senior players than coaches.
    “My view of management is it’s an overview of the whole operation, whereas I think a lot of modern managers are specifically just football, which is OK, but what I’m saying is you’ve got to understand what you are yourself — and it’s important clubs understand what they’re looking for.”
    He chuckles about the self-styled “super-coaches” who “like to talk about themselves a lot, and tactics”. Agents? “Never get involved with them. Because it’s really crucial my relationship with players is based on football and not finance or the bullshit that goes with the modern game, if you like.”
    Some of this is old school, yet, for a man on the cusp of his seventh decade, he seems in appearance and outlook remarkably youthful. He loves “childish” humour and being around young people and his 2½ years at Bristol City have involved radically lowering the age profile of the squad while slashing the wage bill to keep the club FFP compliant.
    Suffusing the team with academy products such as Tommy Conway, Sam Bell, Ephraim Yeboah and Alex Scott (sold to Bournemouth this summer for £25 million), he has made about £30 million on transfers, improved league finishes year on year and introduced a playing style that combines possession, pressing and athleticism. This season’s aim? The play-off places, minimum. “I think it’s really important we have a successful season. I’m in the last year of my contract, so I need that myself.”
    The birthday will be a quiet celebration with his wife, Nicky, their children, James and Hannah, their partners and his grandchildren. He won’t be thinking much about football. One foot in, one foot out — out in the real world. That’s the way.
    When I ask for the best and worst football experiences of his 60 years they both involve Leicester City, where his knack for bringing people together, doing things differently, creating culture and promoting talent laid the groundwork for a miracle but the bitter personal disappointment of leaving the club just before the 2015-16 title season.
    “My favourite moment in management was winning League One with Leicester. Getting to the Premier League was all right but League One was brilliant. We had so much fun. For our last game, Crewe away, the fans came in fancy dress and we [the Leicester staff] ended up in a bar with some Norwegians — one had a guitar — singing Bohemian Rhapsody.
    “So it’s not necessarily the football, it’s the camaraderie and building something. That’s where people sometimes miss what it is about. People like to be part of something.”
    And by “it” he could mean football or could mean life, but is probably speaking about both.
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  5. 21 hours ago, shahanshahan said:

    Jazz Bull interview on the latest episode of "The Women's Soccer Show" podcast (it's a British/American co-production hence the title). Pretty cool interview about her life, career, and playing for City despite most of her family all being fans of the team in blue & white...

    Segment starts 24:00

     

    Enjoyed this - thanks for sharing. Glad we've converted her from the dark side.

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  6. 5 hours ago, shahanshahan said:

    You're welcome @The Constant Rabbit! Thought I should help revive the thread, and it's great to see many others contribute to it too.

    Which country are you in, as I saw you refer to Fox (which I think there are different versions of internationally)?

    Also, it's "Women" not "Ladies". When I first started following City Women (and subsequently women's football), someone explained it to me that the term "ladies" is seen as outdated in a sports context, and said that we wouldn't call men in sport "gentlemen" by comparison. Although, outside of sports "ladies & gentlemen" is still used

    Agree, I absolutely hate the word ladies, it's city women. 

    Up the city. 

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  7. 3 hours ago, Super said:

    Off subject but a crowd of over 60k at the Emirates tonight for the CL SF.

    As I live in London I decided to go and it was great..

    Arsenal very unlucky to lose in the 119th min. Shame but does make me a bit nervous for next season! 

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  8. I went to Wimbledon vs Walsall last night in the away end and asked a friend about Joe Low. He was on the bench as he was away with the Wales U21 squad. 

    My friend said he wasn't convinced he'd make it at championship level and he couldn't see much to be excited about, however although mid table, the table flatters Walsall quite a bit and they don't play very exciting or attacking football.

     

  9. 11 minutes ago, frenchred said:

    Should throw the book at HER. If he didn't do (I don't believe this) she has wasted so much police time,.money and effort, surely grounds for prosecution

    Er what? Not guilty doesn't mean innocent. 

  10. It's also tricky because a lot of these people won't actually know how old they are or what their birthday is. It's common, so people just end up guessing.  (Also loads of Africans have their date of birth as Jan 1st as they don't know!) 

    Not sure how accurate MRI scans are either.

    I'm sure some might be faking it but it's much more complex than it seems in this country imo.

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