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23 minutes ago, phantom said:

24 minutes ago, phantom said:

Nothing personal but these king of comments make me laugh, very often it is the same people that watch both sports yet are labelled as one thing because something happens at football and labelled as something else at cricket

It's similar to how trouble at rugby is put down as high jinks but something completely different at football

 

To clarify yes its a lazy expression but it's basically a lack of respect I mean. Has been more evident in football where there has been some horrific incidents with local league referees. But it's across all sports, all workplaces, everywhere in society. 

If guys are getting to the point of cheating and mass brawling about a game then they may as well forget the cricket go straight in the bar, make up the scores while sinking a few then have a proper dust up in the car park after.

Cricket/rugby/football/horseracing. Red or blue, in or out. Its just a shit show all round was my (obvious, I know) point, and that isn't close to what sport is about.

Particularly topical for me, partly as 1st season in 30 I haven't been able to play.

5 hours ago, spudski said:

....wtf is wrong with our society?

So much wrong these days.

People are just so aggressive.

Worth reading the thread as well.

 

Shameful. If cricket is "getting like football" (and it is) then we're only at the beginning of a slide where we'll see more scenes like this.

The ECB has apparently spent a fair bit on legal fees & lawyers with new discipline codes, and Recreational Cricket Discipline Officers being employed. All sticking plasters on the symptoms, not the causes, IMO.

As with most things in this country, amateur cricket needs overhauling. 

Don't know what he has done & he's obviously gone off rails but was reading recently how in '89 at a pre Wimbledon tournament I think he donated his entire winnings to the Hillsborough support fund.

Wealth & celebrity seem to be a toxic combination.

The brains behind out sport need to realise its the entire game, starting with the amateur leagues and clubs that need overhauling, and it's this narrow, top heavy view that's hindering genuine progress.

The institutions, attitudes & people running cricket are still stuck in the 50s. Until that changes  all we'll have to discuss is the next new arrangement of deckchairs. 

22 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

I think they themselves would say they have been gullible. That doesn't mean they were idiots: the women featured are all smart professional women who've obviously had decent careers going on. 

What I was trying to explore is how rational people can be talked into doing things. If they stood back and really thought these cons over they'd realise they are being foolish, but because they are kept in an artificial state of anxiety and worry they are literally not given time to think. It's the old fear clogging the brainwaves thing. A master conman can use that fear. Freegarde-Hendy told his victims his and then their lives were in danger. He made them do ridiculous things, largely for his own amusement. 

I certainly don't want to sound victim shaming. I was just interested in the psychology. Not all such victims were female. Freegarde-Hendy kept at least two blokes as psychological captives. 

Yes apols - you've been one of my favourite posters for years and I realised you had a valid point, and not shaming. 

The bit I highlighted I think is key. If I've had a couple of nights of rough sleep I definitely find life harder. If you're under the pressures you mention bad decisions are easily made, and compounded. 

Absolutely enraged this slime not only got away with it, but continued with his crimes after his 5 month term.

On 10/02/2022 at 07:46, Red-Robbo said:

There's an interesting psychological study to be done here in how anxiety is linked to gullibility 

I know what you're saying but that's an incredibly harsh word for women that were targeted, professionally manipulated by a highly skilled & experienced psychopath, sociopath & God knows what else.

Any study should of course be done on how we produce wastes of oxygen like Leviev and how the hell we allow them to get away with it. Even after they're banged to rights.

1 minute ago, Eddie Hitler said:

Weston has a 76k population vs Yeovil's 45k and also more than Taunton.

Maybe they should do a Tranmere and start to play games on a Friday night so that all the City fans, and maybe some Rovers fans, who travel up can watch them as well.

 

Didn't realise that was Tranmere's tactic! Good example of how clever u need to be to succeed?

Would love Yate to do so, always had a soft spot for them and Lodge Road.

Forest Green & Cheltenham, a bit further away, have shown its possible.

I've perhaps misjudged Agnew's piece, but I'm not sure he believes that is what should happen, rather as a bit of a grenade/talking point. He also points out where responsibilities lie during this debacle of a tour 

4 hours ago, MarcusX said:

More or less what I expected to hear of them! As a CB myself I always enjoyed what Rosey had to say, it was usually a bollocking mind - the sort of guy who would still have something to say if you went in 3-0 up 

Chippenham have done well to stay up to be fair. They seemed to be having a rocky season from some of their results, but currently 6th and had they beaten bath they’d be 3/4th. They’ve done well to improve the facilities as best they can, new much bigger clubhouse. Seats in the stand behind the goal, bigger car park now too.

Exactly! He played at Lords with Goatacre too in the Village final - top sportsman 

1 hour ago, MarcusX said:

Played under Paul Rose (well he was a coach) and Trippy at Chippenham, what were they like as players? Rosey always came across hard as nails, wouldn’t answer him back if he had a pop.

What Melksham have done is brilliant, can’t personally bring myself to support them as I’m a Chippenham boy through family. Most of my school year were part of that Melksham side a few years ago that won the league but couldn’t go up, then eventually got promotion. Some very good players at that level, and majority of the squad were Melksham lads. Only downside was it was a bit clique, but most clubs are.

The ownership used to try and insist on using local lads, Its lost its “home grown” feel a little now they’ve moved away from that model but still some talented young lads there. The youth setup is something special too, and facilities are brilliant.

Rosey was an an immaculate old school centre half, greased up perm, great in the air, scored a goal or 2 but excellent captain who organised well I wouldn't have wanted to be on the wrong end of one of his rollickings. Nigel was a great foil, shorter & stockier, quieter but read the game ever so well. They may both still be on the tools too! I bet . I remember them being ever present for seasons also

Gather Melksham have done well but not a club I hold interest in. Chippenham went up a level or 2? And have stayed up? They were the old Great Mills prem, with Melksham, Devizes, Calne etc below. Both have achieved as the facility standard jump from Western to Southern was difficult let alone the standard. 

13 hours ago, Sixtyseconds said:

Years back used to work with a Trowbridge player.

Watched them first round of the FA cup lost one nil ... They were conference (?) with John Freeguard up top.

Went out with the players in the town with my mate telling players I had played with him.

True five a side.

I was a half decent player.

Hopeless outrageous lie.

Anyway they were top lads.

Order used to be summat like Trowbridge - Chipnumb - Melksham/Frome,

Then Bradford /Devizes /Westbury.

What division they in now?

Never quite made the 1st round, lost 1-0 at Newport iow in 4th qualifier, think that's the one u mean?

Season or 2 before took Martin O'Neil s Wycombe to replay (3rdor4th qual) losing in 97th minute.

Frome Road under John Murphy (88 to 93?) was the best value £3 you could spend. Loud and colourful crowds,  4 2 4 attacking with the fittest team about. 

Freeguard was key man in that team often. Adie Harris, Mark Adams(from Larkhall?) Danny Iddles (from Yate), Paul Rose, Nigel Tripp, Marcus Bray and too briefly Dave Dennison, brother of Wolves' Robbie. Jeff Meacham, Graham Withey brief spells.

Saw Mark Lawrenson as pl/man of Corby, and Alan Brazil scored for Bury St Edmonds as pl/man but lost 5-1.

Murphy left when he saw no progress off field and it was a slow inevitable death after that including a season or 2 with Twerton as home ground. They had a great deal with Beazer Homes, their sponsor, who would purchase current & build new ground. Nothing like that happens in Trowbridge, tescos blocked Sainsburys buying ground it's now houses 

90-91 season promotion from Southern to Premier (2nd) Vase semi final defeat to Guiseley & league Cup semi final. In April they played around 20 games. 2 subs then. 

One of first games in Premier League we beat Burton Albion 9-0. They had to wear our white kit. 

Watched the likes of Crawley, Rushden, Cheltenham at Frome Road. They went one way, we went the opposite.

Happy, happy days though

Radio 5 live now discussing among other things Premier league players wages.

Seems the club captains are already discussing details of pay cut but want some control/assurances of what happens to this large pot, how does it get used for good.

26 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Also see.

@Nbafc Do you think that debate will be on catchup? Shall look forward to listening if so.

Found on Twitter- Simon Jordan nails it!

Should hope its on catchup but im never too sure!

Really like listening to Simon Jordan, but haven't listened to him since this began, will endeavour to as have plenty of time.

But Warburton came across so, so well to my ears. I'd be comfortable with someone like that in a more influential position than QPR manager.

Radio 5 debate on the Coronavirus and its affects on football now (started at 8), especially in light of Tottenham's announcement. Really impressed with Mark Warburton.

14 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Does anyone hear believe the theories that this has been around longer than suggested? It now seems it can be traced back to November rather than end of December as first thought and the Chinese aren't exactly known for being forthcoming. THey could have sat on this for ages

Lots of people seem to be saying they were ill over Xmas time, more so than usual for the time of year. Myself had a genuine flu that wiped me out for 4/5 days, cleared for a few days then came back again briefly. Shortly later my grandmother who I visited after I thought it had cleared was taken ill with some kind of chest infection. My partner also became ill around the same time (week or so after me) but with more of a dry cough, really snotty/sinusy infection which lasted a couple of weeks at least and her Dad then developed the similar chest infection issue that my nan had. We also had an elderly neighbour come down ill enough to call an ambulance which turned out to be a nasty flu. Potentially already been doing the rounds or did we all coincidentally catch something more "seasonal"

Have a friend (works on public transport) who was hospitalized early Nov with breathing difficulties plus flu like symptons. And a Surgery nurse who suspects its been here pre Xmas.

Could be a virus other than Covid 19 of course, while it wouldnt surprise me if it was C-19.

If it has been around in part longer im hoping that would lessen its impact.