The chief

26 minutes ago, RedRock said:

Done as everyone else … but ought to have a category for the ‘much under-rated’ or ‘Mr Consistency’ …. I bring you George Tanner. 

James worth a place in the top 3 too. Also a Mr Consistency with his ability to help control the midfield . We’re so much worse without his calm authority. 
really really hope he gets that extension. 

4 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said:

For one thing, if they’d dumped NP earlier, how many potential managers would have been crazy or brave enough to take on the shambles that Pearson was tasked to sort out?

As for lack of consistency, did you really expect anything else, with our injury crisis and small squad, meaning a number of young, inexperienced players having to be thrown in the deep end, hoping they would be able to swim, rather than sink??

The last two games under Manning have thankfully shown a bit of promise, but nobody is going to convince me that NP’s sacking was anything other than for personal reasons by those above.

Yep, good to have cause for optimism with improved performances and good use of subs and tactics last 2 games. Perhaps a ray of light for manning at least. 

Fundamental issue is the total lack of experience, contacts, vision and know how in those above Manning. No football club leadership nouse whatsoever with JL, BT and GM, which means that we’re still likely to suffer with poor decisions and strategy- likely this will impact recruitment , contract extensions and even minor annoyances like communications,  the splat robin and kit debacles .
Gonna be stuck with this in the short and longer term. Can’t see how this will change either. 

5 hours ago, Spike said:

I mean what's worse? Saying nothing and the fans get pissed off because they're not communicating or coming out and essentially telling the fans they don't think there is a problem and we've just been unlucky?

At this point I just see Tinnion as guy with a 3 inch paint brush trying to paint over the cracks only to realise the "cracks" are the grand canyon. The worst part is Tinnion will be here as long as the Lansdowns are meaning nothing will change. Too many high positions taken by guys with no clue how to run a club and egos too big to admit it and get the right men in.

This is the biggest issue Spike. All these incompetent individuals taking the club in the wrong direction. We went from Gould and Alexander - proven execs to this over promoted lot. All a cozy club probably on big salaries doing jobs they have no experience or actual skills in.
So annoying!!

Probably only relegation would result in a clear out of these hapless execs and no one wants that so we’re stuck with them! 

5 hours ago, Spike said:

56 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

Absolutely this. There is a total lack of professionalism and nobody to challenge the half-baked proclamations emanating from the Chairman’s office. Pearson did that and was sacked for it. Brian Tinnion, who I have admired in the past and in whom I am hugely disappointed, lacks the balls to call out the nonsense and instead either cravenly agrees or keeps his head down. It’s a recipe for disaster.

It’s the ineptitude of our board that’s the most desperate aspect of the club. Woefully inadequate and wholly inexperienced people JL,  Marshall, BT, Knights. It’s a joke . To entrust such unproven, incompetent people to lead any business is asking for failure .
Feels like there is nothing we can do about it, but I’d be all for loud vocal protests against the board. They need to feel the heat and the feelings of fans. Lansdown Snr has to be compelled to act somehow. It’s our club too. 
As for Manning, clearly out of his depth with the team regressing but not our biggest problem imo. 

Just now, Port Said Red said:

Unfortunate. 

Wasn’t it just . My point was u do see a lot of our younger fans joining in so fair play to em. Not to everyone’s taste then. 
enjoy the game 

u reds. 

3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I hate “bounce around”.

Bet your kids like it tho !

17 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Drink up thee cider is synonymous with the West Country . Although they also sing the I can’t read I can’t write song which is bloody embarrassing as is Grown men bouncing around like little kids 

Bounce around has been going for nearly 20 years so a whole generation of young uns knows it, and it has history of sorts. 
 At least it generates atmosphere- West Ham and Plymouth good recent home examples . 

Dont  mind it myself , better than some generic dirge that all other teams sing like Allez allez allez . 

Surely it wouldn’t be a contentious point that both tinnion and Nige had a big part to play in the development of Semenyo and Scott from raw youths into elite level footballers?

Very few discovered/signed talent achieves potential in this way, so huge credit to all academy and first team staff in this (as well as the lads themselves obvs)
 

Back to topic, I quite liked Timnions interview . Grounds for cautious optimism.

If the players are enjoying the coaching then it’s possible LM could build on the Nige foundations … hope, of course, can be a dangerous thing…we’ll soon find out . 

It’s good he’s not been called up. Can get on with training with the new coaches and be focussing on our defensive shape and play. Needs some work in his decision making and distribution - the one or two really dodgy passes out per game will cost us sooner rather than later!!!  

15 hours ago, LondonBristolian said:

I’m furious as anyone about Pearson’s sacking and I think my other posts will bear that out but there are two things in this topic I do slightly disagree with.

1) the idea they it is an inherently terrible thing that we have a Technical Director/DoF-type figure who ensures that what the manager is doing fits in with the club’s wider strategy. 
 

I actually think - in principle - that is a good thing and leaves us much better protected if a manager suddenly leaves as it means - in theory - we’re not constantly rebuilding from scratch when the manager changes. Obviously we will see in the coming weeks what happens in practice but I do think the shambolic succession of managers between GJ and Cotts shows why there need to be someone who is not the manager ensuring consistency.

2) the idea that Brian Tinnion is a terrible choice for Technical Director due to lack of experience. He is an ex player who has spent the last 15 years working in backstage strategy roles in football. I think his background suits the role far more than someone who has not worked in football or someone who has only coached or managed - which is very different to working on the strategy side.

Don’t get me wrong - my view is sacking Pearson is a terrible decision and Tinnion may well be completely unsuitable for the job he is doing. But I don’t think the actual job is a bad thing so much as the execution of it and I think an ex footballer who has worked in football development roles is as suited as anyone to do it, even if it turns out Tinnion’s personal attributes mean he is wrong for the job despite relevant experience.

 

PS for clarity, I think Pearson had a far better strategic overview of the club than Tinnion, the board, the owner or anyone I can remember at the club for a long time. But I think that is very unusual in a manager and you generally need a Technical Director or Director of Football as most managers are much more short termist.

Agreed. Would be a positive outcome to have sone continuity of approach, thanks to the culture and standards developed by Nige but also involving  tins (in terms of an academy pathway and integration) and others such as RG, the senior players and the coaching staff. 

A lot of mentions of that Swansea game getting on for 20 years ago, which really isn’t relevant to Tins current role or our position.  Some of the posts do have a touch of a mob witch hunt about them imo, like a Monty python sketch- burn ‘im!!!! Folks digging into his LinkedIn profile and that. 

one of the genuine success of the club in recent times is the Academy and Tins, to his credit, has played a big part in this- of course not as big a part of Nige who actually gave so many of our talented youngsters an opportunity and a first team environment in which to flourish!

Also, our appalling injury crisis does merit deep scrutiny - it’s far worse than other teams, so it’s right that this is analysed in depth. Needs some critical and measured analysis and it’s not wrong to raise it imo.

The Rennie replacement is obviously also a crucial hire. Can we get that right?! 

By most accounts Nige was leaving training to his coaches, so whilst the players will be impacted by the ridiculous sacking, during the week at the training ground, there might not be too much that’s different- the transition to just Curtis might not have that much of an impact compared to when the new head coach comes in.

 
Lets hope he gets them all really fired up and focussed on getting a big 3 points on Saturday. We need an energetic start and performance from whoever we have left that’s fit!!! 
 

The senior players have a role too- the group we have were lauded by Nige many times for setting high standards - I trust them to carry this on. He certainly did. 

2 hours ago, Keepers Ball said:

I dont care who they get in. I want them out.

Years ago I shouted down this Bristol Sport thing, the dilution of the Football Club and a rebuilt stadium that is no longer a football ground for Bristol City FC.

And now add the ridiculous sacking of a Manager, who we all started to understand how and what he could work with.

It's all been a Lansdown Legacy and I have nothing to be grateful for. His debt, his stadium and I don't get to watch my team for free.

Get them OUT!!

 

When was it free to watch city? I missed that!

I guess the biggest issue is,  no one wants to buy us, so can he sell? Posted elsewhere that it would help find investors if we didn’t have such a random organisational structure and various other underperforming sports teams all tied up in the BS BS. Let’s hope it can be disentangled somehow. 

 

54 minutes ago, The Journalist said:

Our chairman thinks the squad Nigel Pearson has built is "one of the best since I've been involved" - but decides to sack the manager after two defeats in a row, one week after we were eighth in the table and when he has only 12 senior players available.

Let that sink in for a minute.

He's lying. He's sitting there lying to us. It's absolutely disgraceful.

Sums it up perfectly. 
 

For balance, he was on a hiding to nothing. We’re angry and p’d off so it would have needed to be some statement to provide any positives. 

However, JL is patently not capable and does not have the leadership, communication, experience or any of the skills required to be in an executive position. His old man would never have put him in charge of his main stockbroker business. 
a statement like that is as much as he is capable of. 

Nathan jones Ffs. Things couldn’t get any worse. Please let this not be a serious rumour. 

21 minutes ago, bredwood said:

He pretends to be different but Lansdown is just another Millionaire owner who doesn’t care what the fans who pay the money to keep the club alive think. He’s just a selfish egomaniac just like nearly all self made men. The sooner he leaves this club and sells up the better.

As for his feckless son, just another spoilt rich kid who treats everyone and everything as his plaything to be tossed aside when he loses interest.

Totally agree with this .  And he’s surrounded himself with sycophants. Seems the super rich can’t bare to have anyone challenge them.
Now we have no CEO , no manager - where’s the football leadership? Who is setting the strategy and standards? How we identifying players for the transfer window . This won’t change with a new head coach either . Be the same ol thing . 

I used to be glad we had a local business owner, but agree with other posters in that SL has taken us for a ride on his own narcissistic journey ; 

We don’t own our stadium and have to share it with a rugby team- this provides no benefit for BCFC 

We have a bunch of associated sporting teams in a convoluted ownership structure- this provides no benefit for BCFC 

The same ownership have a grand sporting quarter planned and own a load of land in ashton vale - this provides no benefit to BCFC 

For balance the training centre has been a great benefit , but even there we’ve seen no sign of the Semenyo and Scott money to help the team. 

And now they’ve got rid of the people that were actually installing standards and cohesion into the team, having cut huge costs. 

Will happily voice my displeasure on Saturday but we’re stuck with SL and his incompetent son until they decide to go.

Guess all we can do is loudly make our feelings known and hope they do one . 

27 minutes ago, fgrsimon said:

One for the stattos, when did we last beat a newly relegated team? 

In February!

Weve been disappointing 2nd half. Had something to hang on at 1-1 but very little composure in the ball . Caught in possession way too many times when we could have got through them. I know it was a close game but 2nd half very poor football from us. Subs didn’t work either and was a shame to see Tgh not shifted into midfield with the changes. 

4 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

On another note, I’m working my way through the documentary at the moment. It’s genuinely shocking how appallingly he was treated after his red card. Thankfully as a society I do think we’ve progressed since then and I don’t think it would be anywhere near as bad today.

Hoddle made it a lot worse . Could’ve defended his player like most managers would and should have correctly pointed out  it was never a sending off/blamed Simeone. Instead he threw his own player under the bus- feeding the media frenzy . 

by comparison I don’t remember Rooney getting much abuse after Germany 06.

the saka etc abuse was a disgrace and was rightly called out by pretty much everyone straight away . Think some oppo fans even applauded him start of the following season.  
Maybe some things are getting better! 

How good are those 2 finishes?!!!

Special player. Love it. 

6 minutes ago, Midred said:

Skye?

I went for an anagram In the half time rush for mother can. 

Was about to say Skye’s looks well off the pace but he managed a decent turn and almost a through ball at the end. . 
wouldn’t mind seeing AW on for him but Nige doesn’t make HT changes and prob won’t at 0.0.

dreadful game though- we are so much better than this . So many misplaced passes from Kinght in particular 

start positively and up the composure.  It’s there for the taking. 

COYR.

4 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Sky doing their best to find something interesting to talk about and failing.

The bottom of the barrel well and truly scraped with that clip of Ed Sheeran in the Ipswich changing room from last night. 

I’d take a point to stop the losing run tonight - and any result takes the pressure off a bit for Leeds, where we can deploy the  counter attack without being under the pressure of successive defeats …This is the bigger game of the 2 for us today- need a result . 

3rd he was culpable -headed the ball into their forward’s path . Wasn’t helped by whoever missed the first header from their keepers boot upfield- cardinal sin letting the ball bounce !

He missed a tap in too! 
 

We defended their goals very poorly as a team though so it’s not all on Naismith . Very sloppy-threw 3 points away. 

1 hour ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

There is nothing ultra about our crowd or support nowadays. Except, perhaps, our indifference to what is happening on the pitch.

I blame Steve Lansdown  (why not?) Twenty years of .... well, not really going anywhere. The whole place is devoid of belief. People are there in the ground, but they might as well not be.

That’s a bleak assessment of us as a fan base!! 
It’s not that bad - thought atmos been better sat and Tues with something to get excited about happening on the pitch…. 
It’s not like in the old days it was ever non stop singing every game  . Over a long period we’ve been loud(ish) when we’ve had something to get excited about ..