Red from afar

Go for it, win as many as possible to get some momentum, convince the current players we're going to play to their strengths going forward, buy/sign like for like replacements for anyone that leaves/contract not renewed (or slight upgrades), plus an extra 2 or three decent champ level players to give the squad depth.

1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said:

I'd take him in a heartbeat. If only to inject some excitement, intrigue and controversy to this absolute borefest of a club.

The away match at Huddersfield last season was possibly the worst game of football I've ever watched. Their only tactic seemed to be kick us, or kick the ball as far up the pitch as they could, in any direction, in the off chance they might get a corner to score from. It was absolute dross.

'I thought I'd won the sweepstake, but then he said behaviours again'

You get some people in life that are very intelligent, have an almost encyclopedic knowledge of their subject, but when it comes to the practical/ real world application it just doesn't come naturally. It's all great when everything is following the standard/expected pathway, but they just don't seem to see the subtleties, or be able to react to the unplanned scenario. 

I think this is where we are with LM. With the right practical football mind/tactician and motivational personnel next to him maybe it could work, but as it is he's got BT above him marvelling at his textbook drills in training. 

1 minute ago, BITW said:

From what i understand it was Tinnion who ran to JL to complain about King starting (in a game which we won!) Either way it’s a shambles really. 

Who also then praised King in the commentary on the game....

I'm just saying this as my opinion, an unaldultered 'what I reckon', but when you spout jargon to the wrong audience it just makes you look like you're trying to hide something, or aren't entirely convinced that people are going to accept what you want to say.

Communication is a two way thing. You say something, if the person you're talking to doesn't understand what you're saying, you're not communicating.

55 minutes ago, Red from afar said:

I stick to my guns when I said early in the season, if they bought 2 or 3 decent solid players at this level in the summer in the right positions we'd be close to the playoffs, if not just inside. Nothing I've seen from the other teams below the top 4 (and maybe West Brom), has made me change my mind

They didn't have to be spectacular, just good pros who fitted our style of play. It was pure pettiness that stopped that happening and now they've set us back a couple of seasons again.

I'll take this one further. Assuming they just didn't like him, it could have gone;

'Nige wants 2/3 players for these positions, says they need strengthening', 'ok, what do you reckon', 'well, he's right. I think we should sign them. If it goes well, his contract is expiring anyway and we can replace him from a strong position. If it doesn't go well, we'll have a good excuse to replace him and the next guy will have a squad with sufficient depth to push on with'

Just a thought.

I stick to my guns when I said early in the season, if they bought 2 or 3 decent solid players at this level in the summer in the right positions we'd be close to the playoffs, if not just inside. Nothing I've seen from the other teams below the top 4 (and maybe West Brom), has made me change my mind

They didn't have to be spectacular, just good pros who fitted our style of play. It was pure pettiness that stopped that happening and now they've set us back a couple of seasons again.

2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Fact Check:

(and thanks to Paul Binning / Exiled Robin who got there before I did)

Kieron McKenna, first 12….Tins “he only won 2”:

first 12:

W7 D3 L2 Pts 24

first 17 before defeat v Cambridge

W10 D4 L3 Pts 34

Anyone think he might’ve thought red was wins?

 

You couldn't make it up

My take-aways:

He should have stuck to the academy: Made some fair comments about their approach this season (but not leaving the bench empty).

30 years in a job doesn't give you the right to move to the top, it's not the Post Office. Look how that turned out. 

Total revisionism: Stating almost to the letter the situation the club were in player wise when sacking Pearson as an excuse for poor displays now and then saying Manning is learning on the job rather than being ready to push us on for a promotion push.

30 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

Funny because we were just beginning to show all those things under Nige....

I think we were showing it most of the season under him. I'd stopped worrying about conceding last minute winners, soft goals from free kicks etc 

We just seemed solid, wiling to run through walls for each other and generally switched on most of the time. We'd become the team who would generally finish the stronger.

Everything seems so brittle again and that's my main concern, as it took ages to sort it out last time.

17 minutes ago, M.D said:

Is this something Manning has implemented?

To be fair to Manning, when he was hired the powers that be were quite explicit that they were hiring a coach, not a manager, so I can't really blame him if that's all he's concentrating on.

If the connection has been lost, then it's clear who was actually driving this philosophy previously and who to question as to why that seems to have stopped. 

He's a natural goal scorer, he has that instinct of where he needs to be and they're quite hard to find. I can understand why you wouldn't want to base your whole game plan around it, but to totally ignore an advantage like that seems strange.  

It's also quite easy to coach that instinct out of someone....

I've worked with companies where it's a family business, sycophants worming their way to the top position. Whenever anyone of experience and presence came in, the stooge would always be in the owners ear telling them they don't know what they're doing. 

Then they'd remove them and hire someone who would do the work in the way they wanted and wouldn't answer back. Funnily enough they would then blame them as well when things inevitably started to get worse.

2 hours ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

Isn’t Slash, from Guns n Roses from Sheffield?

Not that I'm aware of, but ABC and Reverend and the Makers are. A bit of trivia, the guy on the Arctic Monkeys first studio album cover is the brother of Reverend and the Makers lead singer. 

6 hours ago, JP Hampton said:

Sheffield runs on recycled energy: the city uses a district energy system, which turns domestic waste into thermal energy, which is then used to produce electricity and hot water! It takes over 225,000 tons of garbage a year to produce 19 megawatts of electricity and 60 megawatts of thermal energy. The hot water produced by this system flows through 25 miles of underground pipes to points all around the city.

Not exactly football related but if they can why aren’t we?

A bit of an exaggeration. It's a small corner of the city this happens in and most people in Sheffield are totally unaware it happens there.

@Jerseybean You missed out Joe Cocker, The Arctic Monkeys, Def Leppard and The Human League! 

Worth a pint at The Sheffield Tap if you're coming in on the train, good selection of ales.

7 hours ago, Paul1708 said:

Hi all

Does anyone have any advice on the best place to park around Hillsborough, close ish to the ground? 

Thanks  

Find a space on Foxhill Road or one of the residential roads leading off it, will be about a 5-10 minute walk depending how far up you find a spot, or Clay Wheels Lane as mentioned above.

He's sounded very stressed out in recent interviews, giving responses that seem quite out of character. I can't help but feel it might be best for his own health if he does move on from this job.

If he was in a play-off chasing team, I'd be fairly confident he wouldn't be the reason for us not making the playoffs over a whole season.

26 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

That badge… I can’t watch it.

I think the designer is a Pokemon fan

6 minutes ago, Leabrook said:

Yeah that’s why I never get too het up either way.  Manning is responsible for sure but sometimes it’s not his fault if we don’t win. It wasn’t fine margins tonight though despite the close score. To not change the shape at half 

It's a balancing act. When to play 'pretty' against teams and when to play a harder, disruptive game. If you don't have the best players in the league, you need to know when to mix up the plan, or simply stick to hard to beat.

Just now, Leabrook said:

I know he’s saved us on other games. I rate Max a lot. That wasn’t my point though 

Fair enough, a point of small margins.

20 minutes ago, Leabrook said:

Yeah they have. It’s just not relegation form. Close to it for sure. Fine lines though as always. If Max doesn’t make that error Tuesday then the record is about the same I’d guess 

Ignoring the times he's saved us in other games there.

We looked soft today, too many half hearted challenges. Leeds are a better side and squad no doubt, but they looked like they didn't have to worry about playing their own game.