Simpleton Gas

Its pretty straightforward to explain - how much of the money from the Alex Scott will Nigel Pearson see? In D2 you sell a player for Roberts for 2m and would then expect to get to spend 250,000-300,000. Holloway was given money to spend, and wasted it.

No Dunfords, no club. I've said it before and will say it again. The idea of money being 'creamed off' as part of a criminal conspiracy by the Dunfords to fund the purchase of new milk floats is mildly amusing, but deserves no further consideration.

I think I would be more inclined to question if there is a difference in the first place. Lansdown is involved in an industry that has been subject to widespread public criticism and controversy after the 2007/08 financial crisis. I don't want to make specific allegations on a football forum, but on the basis of this fact alone, I would suggest that he should be subject to greater and closer scrutiny than 'ordinary' businessmen who make their money in more conventional/traditional ways.

Under the terms of the law, the incidents involving the City players resulted in jail sentences being handed out. In the case of Brown and Barton, no jail sentence was forthcoming. The incident involving the City players was a serious violation of public order, and as I recall, one player continued to play with a tag. I'm not sure what you mean by 'under social obligation'? If you mean, do I believe that different standards should apply across individual countries on the basis of cultural differences, then my answer is 'no'. If Brown serves his sentence, commits to undertake rehabilitation and pay his debt to the victim/s and society, then I have no issue with the club signing him.

It ultimately comes down to one question. Do you continue to employ somebody who has been convicted of a criminal offence? Both Rovers and City have done this, and so City should stop being holier-than-thou on this issue. My personal view is that you should only do this if they commit to seek help and ultimately work towards rehabilitation. In the case of Barton, I'm willing to admit that I have reservations about his continued employment on this basis. However, with regard to the specific court cases, I think the position of the club was correct.

That's like saying that somebody who works on the front desk of a bank is comparable to a national-level bank boss. Quite clearly, nuances and degrees of acceptability apply. I think we can generally agree that Lansdown would be more open to scrutiny and criticism than somebody like Dunford, despite the fact that both are businessmen. It was still embarrassing and exposed your club to nationwide ridicule.

Try using the word in front of anybody with a reasonable degree of intelligence and see how you get on.....

You relied on acts of charity from former players and creditors foregoing payment in 1982. Both are supreme acts of tinpottery which proved your inability to manage your own financial affairs. And it must be a different Bristol City whose mascot got involved with a brawl with Wolves's mascot in a 6-1 reversal at Ashton Gate; or whose players were sentenced to prison for a violent street brawl; or when you went from division one to division four in successive seasons; or whose yobs violently attacked Rovers fans in front of the Sky cameras and chased their manager and players from the pitch after a last-minute equalizer. And so on......

The original point was that Charlton are a bigger club than Millwall. Would you disagree with this claim?

So do you believe that your own club should have sacked Bradley Orr, David Partridge and Steve Brooker after they were sentenced to prison for their role in a drunken brawl? Please don't pretend that you are in a position of moral authority on this.

If the player has committed to serve their sentence and has also committed to undergo rehabilitation, then there is no reason for the club not to employ them. I recall that after three of your players were jailed after participating in a brawl with club bouncers, your club continued to employ them and provided all necessary support. I didn't accuse your club of condoning violent conduct.

I won't make specific claims about HL on a football forum, as it isn't appropriate. Let's just say that a whole number of 'reputable' investment companies were badly exposed in the 2007/08 financial crash. The entire system is rotten to its core.

What are you referring to?

The OP made a false claim. I corrected him/her. And at precisely what point have I or any other Rovers fans asserted our victimhood?

How many people died as a result of austerity imposed in the aftermath of the 2007/08 that occurred as a result of vulture capitalism? Studies have been done on this, and I think you would be surprised by their conclusions.

Which part of 'I was not referring to the average but individual games' are you struggling with?

Quite clearly there is a very wide variation in the category. The political situation in Jordan, an authoritarian semi-democracy, is in no way comparable to Saudi Arabia, which is a theocracy.

They could also do one of Dean Windass scoring the promotion-winning goal in the 2008 playoff final. They'd probably sell out.

If you are referring to JB, Wael and the club were quite within their rights to continue to employ JB, and would have in all probability faced legal action if they had fired him. At all points beforehand, Wael actually made it clear that JB would be fired if found guilty.

Again, it doesn't detract from the actual point - you weren't always the slick, professionalized outfit that you currently aspire to be, and were actually quite embarrassingly small-time and, dare I say it, 'tinpot'. I fully understand your position. However, are you equally non-judgemental on the Saudi takeover of Newcastle? Like Lansdown, the Saudis have earnt their money, invested in the economy and are fully entitled to adopt their own preferred financial arrangements?

I can't be right on everything. I wasn't referring to averages, and accidentally referred to the 2021-22 figures, not those from last season. Last season is actually a very bad guide, because they underachieved massively. Note that I was also referring to individual games, not the average. See here: Charlton Athletic | Home Attendances | 2021-2022 | Football Web Pages Two attendances in excess of 26,000.

In the Arab world, Kuwait is also relatively free and democratic, which of course isn't the same as saying it is free and democratic.

I'm very happy to hear he 'redeemed' himself by making credible music with actual musicians. However, for most observers, he will always be the 'drummer from Bros'. Fame is both a blessing and curse.

By Arab standards, Jordan is relatively democratic, free and prosperous. If you trying to shoehorn some sort of comparison between Wael's backing of Rovers and the Saudi bankrolling of Newcastle, then you are misguided and misinformed. People are malnourished and lack food in the UK. Are you suggesting that countries that receive money from UK investors should reconsider?

You are clearly of limited intelligence, but I'm guessing you are aware that people have been prosecuted over making false claims on the Internet? I would suggest that you delete that very quickly.